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M.G.

(250 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:34 PM Nov 2015

Ben Carson does not know who wrote the Constitution

Source: Talking Points Memo

Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson said in an interview that aired Sunday that Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution. But in reality, the founding father was the lead author of the Declaration of Independence.

It's not the first time Carson has gotten United States history wrong. As The Wall Street Journal previously flagged, Carson erroneously said the founding fathers had "no elected office experience."

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-thomas-jefferson-wrote-constitution



Some "Constitutional Conservative."
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Ben Carson does not know who wrote the Constitution (Original Post) M.G. Nov 2015 OP
Idiot chalmers Nov 2015 #1
His stupidity will endear him MORE to the voters. randys1 Nov 2015 #26
not unless fox picks up the story... getagrip_already Nov 2015 #39
Trump? SereneG Nov 2015 #46
"Don't know much about history..." KamaAina Nov 2015 #2
Don't know much biology, either. DreamGypsy Nov 2015 #7
Love your version of that song! lark Nov 2015 #18
love it!! SummerSnow Nov 2015 #27
They bailed on "If I had a hammer..." underpants Nov 2015 #12
ROFL! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #3
That's silly. Everyone knows god wrote the Constitution. n/t malthaussen Nov 2015 #4
+1000 blessings. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2015 #8
Wrong! Beowulf42 Nov 2015 #15
Still not quite right... Moostache Nov 2015 #23
He sure did! Botany Nov 2015 #20
Whoa - Carson wrote a book about the Constitution. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #5
The book has 355 reviews and is pulling 4.5 stars Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #33
Sounds like he hasn't even read that book he "wrote". tanyev Nov 2015 #54
Ya think? I noticed that also. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #56
All knives and giggles, with a mind wherein a cogent sentence would find itself in coventry. Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #6
What an elegant... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #42
..... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #9
He cut class when American history was taught NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #10
Yep! Gotta go with "it's not rocket science" from now on. brush Nov 2015 #28
Wasn't it JESUS? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #11
That's what it says in the Texas history textbooks ^ world wide wally Nov 2015 #17
Imagine the shock to the Palestinians of the first century... Moostache Nov 2015 #29
Here is an alternative rendition exboyfil Nov 2015 #31
Love it. COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #51
Hate.this.picture. angrychair Nov 2015 #38
I doubt Trump's grasp of history is any better than Carson's. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #13
Dr. Carson should also know that he and the rest of the GOP clown car forest444 Nov 2015 #14
Spot on, Mr. Madison. 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #35
"Thank you, catwoman." forest444 Nov 2015 #36
I would bet that he would tell you that Jesus wrote the Bible though. liberal N proud Nov 2015 #16
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Botany Nov 2015 #19
Looks like Ben needs to watch Politicalboi Nov 2015 #21
So scary! I bet he can't name ten states. truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #22
The stupid hurts. blackspade Nov 2015 #24
Obviously Channeling Dubya Duckfan Nov 2015 #25
No one knows deutsey Nov 2015 #30
it's a mystery. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #41
"And the three branches of government are God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit..." n/t xocet Nov 2015 #32
Dear Ben: Start here … NurseJackie Nov 2015 #34
Dunce Plucketeer Nov 2015 #37
At least he did not say Helen Borg Nov 2015 #40
This guy shouldn't be judging if someone is brain damaged. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #43
And now a large group of low information, low intelligent conservatives believe it. n/t Tempest Nov 2015 #44
Easy does it...... suston96 Nov 2015 #45
I maintain, he's a psychotic performace art robot. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #47
My. Brain. HURTS. randome Nov 2015 #48
Most of the Teabaggers are like this. They confuse the DOI with the Constitution. And they think Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2015 #49
His constitutents likely don't know the answer either. Their response, "So what?" LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #50
The sad part is most don't care tawadi Nov 2015 #52
He didn't say Jesus wrote it?? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #53
I'm certain a majority of Americans don't know this, but: M.G. Nov 2015 #55

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. His stupidity will endear him MORE to the voters.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:48 PM
Nov 2015

When are people gonna get it.

What we adults consider important, just isnt to the idiots and not only is history and science not important to them, they are angry at science and history.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
39. not unless fox picks up the story...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

they won't ever hear about it if fox doesn't report it. And if they do, they will simply dismiss it as a media invention.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
7. Don't know much biology, either.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

Don't know much about a science book.

Don't know much about the English he took.

Apparently don't know much geography.

Don't know much trigonometry, though he comes from the weirdest angles.

Don't know much about economics. Don't know what a calculator is for.

But he does know one and one is three.
And if from this election he would flee.
What a wonderful world this would be.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
12. They bailed on "If I had a hammer..."
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:02 PM
Nov 2015

And Mental Ben couldn't quite grasp an understanding of "I'm a little tea pot"

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
3. ROFL!
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

James Madison, also present, wrote the document that formed the model for the Constitution. Other U.S. Founding Fathers were not there, but made significant contributions in other ways. Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence, was serving as ambassador to France at the time of the Convention.

Beowulf42

(204 posts)
15. Wrong!
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015

Jeebus wrote the Constitution and the Angel Gabriel delivered it to the Founding Fathers in the National Chapel.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
23. Still not quite right...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:40 PM
Nov 2015

It was delivered on Christmas Eve - by Jesus himself, riding on a Raptor and carrying two rifles, a pistol, a shotgun, ammunition for a battalion and several grenades. He then allowed Chuck Norris to receive the document for safe keeping before rewinding himself in the Shroud of Turin and elevating into the sky to sit at the right hand of his daddy.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
20. He sure did!
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:49 PM
Nov 2015

God was big into slavery and women not being able to vote.



BTW George Washington said that the bible was based on fairy tales too.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. Whoa - Carson wrote a book about the Constitution.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

Or at least his name is on the book as author.

http://www.amazon.com/More-Perfect-Union-Constitutional-Liberties/dp/1591848040

Actually a lot of people erroneously think that Jefferson is the main author of the Constitution. In fact, Jefferson probably had some influence but was in Paris when it was actually written. James Madison is usually given the most credit, although the Constitution was essentially written by a committee of delegates to the convention, which was supposed to merely revise the Articles of Confederation, not write an entirely new document, which is what happened.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
6. All knives and giggles, with a mind wherein a cogent sentence would find itself in coventry.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

Apologies to Harlan Ellison

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. He cut class when American history was taught
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

And we used to think neurosurgeons were smart. Carson destroys the saying "it's not brain surgery."

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
29. Imagine the shock to the Palestinians of the first century...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:52 PM
Nov 2015

when a Nordic man with light brown hair and blue eyes showed up among the rest of the more swarthy population of dark complexion, dark brown eyed masses.

I say the biggest miracle of Jesus is that NO ONE EVER ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT!!!

Jesus: (intoning heavily, with theatrical pauses on each syllable)"Verily, verily I say unto thee..."
Peter: (nervously)"Ugh, excuse me, Lord?"
Jesus: (haughtily replying with terse anger and irritation) "What is it NOW, Simon Peter? Can thou not seeth I am intoning vital knowledge about figs again?"
Peter: (still nervous, avoiding eye contact and kicking his feet at the loose sand) "Oh, yes, I am very sorry about that m'lord...its just the people over in Bethlehem are getting upset again and they keep sending emissaries to us that I have to make go away and all...anywho, long story short, they are asking the eyes and hair questions again...what should I tell them?"
Jesus: (haughtily replying with more terse anger and dismissiveness) "Tell them I already explained that earlier in the book...go back and read it in the spirit and you'll see.
Peter: (exacerbated)"Ugh, excuse me, Lord? But they wanted to know what THAT meant too."
Jesus: (now quite angry and looking to tip over tables in the vicinity)"Just make something up and tell them to believe it or I will cast them into the fiery lake. NOW, where was I?....Of yeah....Verily, verily..." (fade to black)

forest444

(5,902 posts)
14. Dr. Carson should also know that he and the rest of the GOP clown car
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

are exactly what James Madison was referring to here:

Botany

(70,516 posts)
19. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015


James Madison Thomas Jefferson what is the difference?

BTW this was back in the "olden days" and Tommy Jeff had to send
in his work to Madison from Paris by Fax.

suston96

(4,175 posts)
45. Easy does it......
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:56 PM
Nov 2015
Q. Was Thomas Jefferson a member of the Constitutional Convention?
A. No. Jefferson was American Minister to France at the time of the Constitutional Convention.

Q. What did Thomas Jefferson have to do with framing the Constitution?
A. Although absent from the Constitutional Convention and during the period of ratification, Jefferson rendered no inconsiderable service to the cause of Constitutional Government, for it was partly through his insistence that the Bill of Rights, consisting of the first ten amendments, was adopted.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_q_and_a.html

Jefferson may not have scribed the US constitution but even from France he shared inputs with Madison, his friend and political confrere.

As stated above, Jefferson is said to have heavily supported the inclusion of a Bill of Rights.

I will always consider Madison and Jefferson - and Franklin and John Adams as the leading founders of the republic.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
48. My. Brain. HURTS.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:31 PM
Nov 2015

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Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
49. Most of the Teabaggers are like this. They confuse the DOI with the Constitution. And they think
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:33 PM
Nov 2015

this ignorance and stupidity is an endearing quality. Carson will be back in first place tomorrow morning.

Oh wait...he's black. Maybe not.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
50. His constitutents likely don't know the answer either. Their response, "So what?"
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:08 PM
Nov 2015

The answer, of course is James Madison.



Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.

James Madison

M.G.

(250 posts)
55. I'm certain a majority of Americans don't know this, but:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:27 AM
Nov 2015

I'm certain a majority of Americans don't know who authored the constitution, but a majority of Americans aren't running as Constitutional conservatives.

Carson's a buffoon, though he's ensured himself a lifetime of generous speaker's fees through this Presidential run, which was very likely the point of the exercise.

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