Bernie Sanders Calls Planned Parenthood Shooting A Consequence Of Republican Rhetoric
Source: Politicus USA
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In a statement, Sen. Sanders said, While we still do not know the shooters motive, what is clear is that Planned Parenthood has been the subject of vicious and unsubstantiated statements attacking an organization that provides critical health care for millions of Americans. I strongly support Planned Parenthood and the work it is doing and hope people realize that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences.
The political campaign against Planned Parenthood has involved edited videos that are not factually accurate, congressional hearings which were filled with heated and inaccurate attacks against the health care provider, and even a Republican presidential candidate (Carly Fiorina) flat out lying about Planned Parenthood on the debate stage.
Sen. Sanders was correct. The Republican tactic of using false statements and over the top rhetoric is dangerous because it creates the climate for violence. When Republican rhetoric is combined with easy access to weapons, it makes the perfect recipe for mass shootings.
Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/28/bernie-sanders-calls-planned-parenthood-shooting-consequence-republican-rhetoric.html
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/670665239625502720?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I strongly support Planned Parenthood and the work it's doing. I hope people realize that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-colorado_planned-parenthood-shooting
While we still do not know the shooters motive, what is clear is that Planned Parenthood has been the subject of vicious and unsubstantiated statements attacking an organization that provides critical health care for millions of Americans. I strongly support Planned Parenthood and the work it is doing and hope people realize that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences.
Action_Patrol
(845 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)......the Repukes for this!
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)He does what he has to do..
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)And the rest of them are the ones we're trying to take the country back from anyway. No downside in my view
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)His whole career.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)someone with national stature needs to say it. Go, Bernie!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)You need an elephant hide to be in politics. Bernie has it. Its time that things like this got challenged and talked about before the nutwads of the world revolt.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Enough is enough...we need to call them out!
demwing
(16,916 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)They think they will be seen as so much more sophisticated, advanced, diplomatic and refined by reacting with statements like "I'm sure (latest Republican diarrhea mouthed neanderthal) just misspoke. We shouldn't be blaming these deaths on anyone from EITHER party" "Nothing could have prevented this mentally deranged individual from carrying out this gruesome act" or some other such pandering for some imaginary "moderate" wishy washy voter.
Honestly what the #@*# have they got to lose at this point? It would actually win over a whole segment of moderate/righties that admire politicians that honestly say what no one else is willing to say, even if they disagree with it. And a whole lot in the Dem base too.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)and they shoot at it.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)it makes the perfect recipe for mass shootings." - cal04
Exactly. The Republican world is so sick.
RussBLib
(9,044 posts)You know and I know that some of these politicians making unsubstantiated claims do in fact realize that their rhetoric will indeed spur some to violence. Indeed, they hope that it does.
Of course, Sanders won't suggest that. Leave that to someone like Donald Trump, but he knows that the loonies back him and he won't do something that intentionally alienates them.
So you're left with the "unintended" consequences.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She'll probably ignore it or try a platitude.
Judi Lynn
(160,655 posts)lark
(23,179 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)And the regularity and frequency in which it occurs, I don't believe for one nano-second that any of the consequences are unintended.
Horse SHIT. The narrow minded dolts spouting this anti PP crap know full well they what are inciting.
*ETA*
I should add that I absolutely agree with the Senator. This is without doubt a consequence of republican rhetoric.
thucythucy
(8,102 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,755 posts)but Go Bernie!
Hulk
(6,699 posts)You watch. They will come out with their rocket launchers, canines and comedian-wanna-be's to try to go on the offensive against Senator Sanders. It's how these low life, anti-American seditious types respond when the spotlight is rightfully shined on their responsibility with these matters.
Kill the messenger!!!
mitty14u2
(1,015 posts)Unknown Motive
Charles Manson never killed anyone but is still doing life in prison for orchestrating Sharon Tate Murders, but those that promote Lies and Deceit to Propagate Killing of Doctors and People associated with Planned Parenthood is Politically and Religiously your duty and those that get hurt or killed is just collateral damage or unknown motive
Planned Parenthood shooting: Gunman named but motive unknown
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/28/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting/
"The CEO of StemExpress should be hung by the neck using piano wire and propped up on the lawn in front of the building with a note attached," Joseywhales wrote, according to a legal complaint filed by the National Abortion Federation in a California district court.
The person then posted Dyer's home address and offered "ten grand to whomever beats me" to her house, warning that Dyer "must die to save the innocents."
According to abortion rights advocates, Joseywhales' post is just one example of an alarming spike in death threats and violent acts against abortion providers, clinics and companies that work with them since the undercover videos of Planned Parenthood were released.
Two Planned Parenthood clinics have reported arsons, anti-abortion protesters are showing up in large numbers at doctors' homes, and commenters on conservative websites and online forums are calling for the bombings of abortion clinics across the country, according to Vicki Saporta, president of the National Abortion Federation. Saporta is so alarmed by the escalation of threats against providers that she asked the U.S. Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigations to intervene.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/abortion-providers-face-death-threats-in-wake-of-planned-parenthood-videos_55e88bbae4b0b7a9633c3f47
Caught in a fib (Dont Say Outright Lie), Fiorina refuses to acknowledge misstep
At last weeks Republican debate, Carly Fiorina described a Planned Parenthood video showing a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says, We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.
There is no such video. It does not exist. This pesky detail has since touched off a striking series of events.
First, the GOP candidate insisted the day after the debate that she didnt misspeak, adding, I have seen those images. Of course, Fiorina couldnt have seen those images, because there are no such images.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/caught-fib-fiorina-refuses-acknowledge-misstep
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)And I love the anti-choice rhetoric: "We don't condone violence BUT THEY'RE KILLING BABIES!!1!11!!11
Bernie, as always, speaks for me.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)moondust
(20,017 posts)The GOP "leadership" knows their base is a hateful mob with a lot of firepower; all they have to do is give them targets.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)In his statement he says "we still do not know the shooters motive".
He goes on to express his support for Planned Parenthood and his criticisms of the attacks being leveled against it.
But he definitely does not say that the shooting is a consequence of Republican rhetoric (He says that bitter rhetoric can have unintended consequences, which is not the same).
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Please don't ruin a perfectly good rant by injecting facts into the discussion.
The core point IS valid. Sick f***s are capable of murder, spurred on by nasty anti-choice rhetoric. Whether Sen Sanders actually said what the headlines said he said is secondary to the fact that it gets people excited to think he said it, or something close enough to count as it.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)wolfie001
(2,280 posts)That jackass is the worst of the bunch.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)about Planned Parenthood.
FarPoint
(12,467 posts)I've been on this bandwagon for years...Maybe today things will change... This right wing terror must STOP...
Doubledee
(137 posts)Thus far the suspects history seems to have disclosed neither political or religious affiliations. Yet the climate of hate speech seems a good place to look for motive.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you murder the hater; but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Every uttering of hatred for anything from anyone is violence....me.
Stainless
(718 posts)A quick search didn't show any response from HRC. Bernie and President Obama have both called out the Clown Car occupants on their dangerous dumbass PP rhetoric.
Skittles
(153,229 posts)Of the 17 candidates, only former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) have put out public statements in response to the massacre, which lasted approximately five hours and resulted in the deaths of one police officer and two civilians.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/11/28/3726108/presidential-candidates-colorado-shooting/
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Eventually one of the Republican candidates is going to have to break their silence on the issue then the others will be forced to fall into line.
TBF
(32,114 posts)Turbineguy
(37,383 posts)low level criminal type who's gone over the edge.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)that prohibited and form of "inciting" any form of violence on the air. I'm almost certain the FCC had that on the books prior to 1980.
Then of course Ronnie came in and ended that so called "government is too big BS."
People on Cluster Faux or any white wing talk show needs to face the consequences for talking trash on the air that causes harm to another person--especially Michael Winer.
thucythucy
(8,102 posts)for saying out loud what we should know is the obvious truth.
I have only one quibble. He talks about "unintended consequences." I wouldn't give the folks who peddle these vicious lies about Planned Parenthood that kind of credit. Some of them at least know damn well what might and probably will happen because of their rabid rhetoric--and are just fine with provoking unhinged and (thanks to the NRA) well armed people into making just this sort of attack.
Every presidential candidate, every elected national figure ought to come out and condemn the hate speech that provoked this. Few will, though, which is what makes Senator Sanders such a forthright and decent human being.
Vinca
(50,319 posts)I'd say the people who manufactured that video out of whole cloth and Carly Fiorina, who promoted it as gospel, have blood on their hands.