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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:54 AM Nov 2015

Suspect in Colorado attack called recluse who left few clues

Source: Columbia Tribune




Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 12:00 am

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — A gunman who police say staged a deadly attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic was a recluse who stashed food in the woods, avoided eye contact, warned neighbors about government spying and passed out anti-Obama pamphlets, those who knew him said.

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Neighbors who lived beside Dear’s former South Carolina home say he hid food in the woods as if he was a survivalist and said he lived off selling prints of his uncle’s paintings of Southern plantations and the Masters golf tournament..........

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Hood said that Dear rarely talked to them, and when he did, he tended to offer unsolicited advice such as recommending that Hood put a metal roof on his house so the U.S. government couldn’t spy on him.

Dear also lived part of the time in a cabin with no electricity or running water in Black Mountain, N.C........................................................

Zigmond Post, who lives near the RV where Dear lived, said he did not have many interactions with Dear, but, he said, the suspect once gave him a pamphlet opposing President Barack Obama.................

Posted in News, Wire on Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:00 am.

Read more: http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/suspect-in-colorado-attack-called-recluse-who-left-few-clues/article_de9933df-eeae-59ec-9662-d30c1f58df9d.html



Nothing in here to indicate he was a Christian or attended any church.
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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Yet he can still acquire major weapons.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

Kill three people and injurer many others and the media is pretty much quiet. 24 hours later some of the GOP presidential candidates speak with holes in their statements. GOPers are on a non-stop witch hunt against PP and their employees which will bring a parade of pro-lifers thinking their GAWD has given them approval to eliminate PP any means necessary.

DippyDem

(659 posts)
2. Ugh....
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

Just another homegrown American white terrorist egged on by right wingers, Carly Fiorina, NRA...carry on...nothing new

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. "Nothing in here to indicate he was a Christian or attended any church"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

Are you suggesting that because a particular newspaper article does not contain a complete biography of the person, then any fact absent from the article should be presumed not to exist.

The article doesn't say whether he has two legs and two ears. Perhaps one is missing, but we can't just assume he has two legs or two ears because article doesn't address those facts.

The article doesn't say he has a picture of Mickey Mouse tattooed on his left buttocks either.

What is very clear to me, given the overwhelming evangelical population of Colorado Springs, and their particularly outspoken mayor on the topic of abortion, is that they are being very careful about how they characterize this guy.

Obviously, he wasn't a disgruntled former employee.

Obviously, he wasn't going in there to settle some personal score.

The Freepers have this hilarious theory, based on confused initial reports, that he'd set out to rob a bank and then went to the PP to hide after the bank robbery failed.

I mean, good golly, why this guy would load up for bear and head to a PP facility is the deepest mystery since Amelia Earhardt. After all, what sort of a person would be ill-inclined toward PP? It's a real puzzler.

But, if you are looking for particular facts, then merely observing that one particular newspaper article fails to mention a fact, is not as useful as seeking to determine whether there are any articles which do address the set of facts of interest to you:

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"Ross was born in Charleston and grew up in Louisville, Kentucky, and his father was a graduate of Charleston's famous public military college, Citadel.

The younger Dear was raised Baptist, Ross told the New York Times. She said he was not a regular church goer, but he was religious.

'He believed wholeheartedly in the Bible,' she said, adding that he was never fixated on the book.

'That's what he always said, he read it cover to cover to cover.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3338082/Cabin-dwelling-recluse-attacked-Planned-Parenthood-happily-married-father-art-dealer-turned-pot-smoking-oddball-sought-sadomasochistic-sex-online-divorce.html

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Nope, not a clue what could have motivated this guy...

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
5. I should have said fundamentalist Christian...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:32 PM
Nov 2015


So he believes in the Bible and reads it cover to cover. So what --my own father does that and he is a gentle soul.

I am choosing not to read into something into his life.--good or bad at this time.


But carry on.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. See all of that extra garbage in that link?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:19 PM
Nov 2015

Everything in that link after the 1st html is tracking the link to you. I always clean up my links in DU (and all posts on the inter tubes).




Jim__

(14,077 posts)
7. "Robert Dear, Suspect in Colorado Killings, ‘Preferred to Be Left Alone’"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:42 PM
Nov 2015

We'd prefer he left us alone - which he didn't.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. Thanks for that link. He seems mentally ill, influenced by RW bs. In which case I agree, he went to
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:45 PM
Nov 2015

PP to shoot it up, call him an extremist terrorist.

There are too many of these people and too much nasty negative bsbeingg put out by RW rangers like Rush and Trump. To much toxic crap for this mindset to focus on and not give a shit about hurting others over.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
8. He left "few clues"?!?!? What about the ones stated?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:07 PM
Nov 2015

1.) Passed out anti-Obama literature

2.) Sold prints of Southern plantations (read: was pro-slavery)

3.) Tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist (put metal on your roof so that the government can't spy)

4.) Stashed food in woods (thinks an apocalypse/end-of-times is near)

5.) Spews anti-government anti-Socialist bile (maybe he thought Planned Parenthood is an extension of the 'evil' government), but probably lives off the same Socialist programs he screams against.

Not enough clues?

BumRushDaShow

(129,104 posts)
12. "he lived off selling prints of his uncle’s paintings"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

Apparently he had enough to "buy land" in Colorado and plop an RV on it. Interesting the characterization of "lived off selling..." as if he was setting up a raggedy card table out on the street somewhere trying to sell prints to tourists.

He was an independent art dealer with a degree in public administration from a Midwestern college, she said, who struck deals with artists, mostly Southern ones, who painted Charleston, S.C., street scenes, Old South plantation tableaus, magnolias and pictures of the Citadel campus. He tended to buy the rights to paintings, commission 1,000 or so prints, then market and sell the prints and keep the proceeds.

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/us/robert-dear-suspect-in-colorado-killings-preferred-to-be-left-alone.html


"Buying rights" and "commission(ing) 1000 or so prints" ain't small potatoes.
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