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denem

(11,045 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:33 PM Nov 2015

Jeb Bush says he would support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton

Last edited Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Guardian

Jeb Bush would support Donald Trump if the real estate billionaire were to win the Republican presidential nomination, “because anybody is better than Hillary Clinton”.

The former Florida governor thinks that outcome unlikely, however, because the more voters hear of Trump, particularly on foreign policy, “the less likely he’s going to get the Republican nomination".


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/29/jeb-bush-says-he-would-support-donald-trump-over-hillary-clinton



Why would anyone think it necessary to ask such a question?
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Jeb Bush says he would support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton (Original Post) denem Nov 2015 OP
Well, that's not the dumbest thing I've PatSeg Nov 2015 #1
I love it that Jeb Bush's campaign is saltpoint Nov 2015 #2
Why would anyone who isn't a Jebby supporter care who Jebby supports? Thor_MN Nov 2015 #3
into yet another corner for Jeb ericson00 Nov 2015 #4
Perfect illustration tazkcmo Nov 2015 #5
If you think Jeb Bush would vote for Sanders over Trump dsc Nov 2015 #10
No, but I suspect that hundreds of thousands of other Republicans would. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #20
Right.... MrWendel Nov 2015 #27
Sanders' appeal to conservatives... thesquanderer Nov 2015 #36
thanks for article and I agree +100 wordpix Nov 2015 #40
Yes. Sanders spoke at Liberty University. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #38
Who ... MrWendel Nov 2015 #39
Of course he would. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #6
How Is This News? SoCalMusicLover Nov 2015 #7
He also thinks his brother kept us safe. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #8
You'd think with how tight Bill's gotten with Bush 41 & 43, Jeb! would speak better of Hillary. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2015 #9
Well what did you expect? liberalnarb Nov 2015 #11
Maybe Jeb is trying to pull Trump down the drain with him. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #12
$50 says he would vote for Hillary if Trump was the nominee Tempest Nov 2015 #13
A Hillary supporter the other day said she would vote for Trump AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #14
Do you have a link to that post? Bryce Butler Nov 2015 #24
She went in the next day and deleted the posts, but AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #25
Thank You Bryce Butler Nov 2015 #35
Of course he would support Trump spartan61 Nov 2015 #15
He signed the pledge, so he has no other way to answer. Mass Nov 2015 #16
IF, she happened to be the candidate...she will lose. SoapBox Nov 2015 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #23
What does he say about the Planned Parenthood shooting? valerief Nov 2015 #18
Proof the reasons his brother was an awful President are genetic in nature Android3.14 Nov 2015 #19
Why would anyone ask him that question? Beacool Nov 2015 #21
To get a reaction. Lance23 Nov 2015 #31
Right, what a surprise chapdrum Nov 2015 #22
This is news? Werent all the candidates asked if they would support the eventual nominee? 7962 Nov 2015 #26
The news is thatsomeone is actually asking. denem Nov 2015 #30
I could understand Bush not supporting any candidate in 2016 if he isn't the nominee. no_hypocrisy Nov 2015 #28
I hope Jeb gets less votes than a write in vote for a stray dog yurbud Nov 2015 #29
He must appeal to the base. If it really came down to this I doubt he would support Trump. Kablooie Nov 2015 #32
That's what they say, but I don't believe them. Vinca Nov 2015 #33
"Anybody is better"? Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #34
proceed, governor spanone Nov 2015 #37
not surprised "my bro kept us safe" Jeb thinks Trumpelstiltskin can turn straw into gold wordpix Nov 2015 #41

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. I love it that Jeb Bush's campaign is
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:38 PM
Nov 2015

circling the drain. I love it that many donors have abandoned him.

I hope his aspirations to the presidency are squashed as early as possible on the primary calendar.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. Why would anyone who isn't a Jebby supporter care who Jebby supports?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

And since the are damn few supporters of Jebby, this really doesn't matter. No candidate is going to cheer getting the pitiful few backers of the Bush spawn.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
4. into yet another corner for Jeb
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:47 PM
Nov 2015

he can't stop digging his own political grave, nor that of his family! and I love it!

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
5. Perfect illustration
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:48 PM
Nov 2015

of why Sen. Sanders does better in the GE than Sec. Clinton. The GOP voter would rather vote for anyone, including Sen. Sanders, besides Sec. Clinton while Independents, disillusioned/cynical voters and millennials favor Sanders. There simply not enough hedge fund managers or Wall St titans to counter that in the voting booth.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
20. No, but I suspect that hundreds of thousands of other Republicans would.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015

Not every Republican is stupid enough to choose an asshole like Trump over Sanders.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
27. Right....
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015

be cause BS philosophy to so close to the conservative values. Instead of say...staying home?

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
36. Sanders' appeal to conservatives...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:46 PM
Nov 2015

a whole article about it at
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-lifelong-conservatives-who-love-bernie-sanders/417441/

Also, besides the things mentioned there, many on the right share these positions:

against NAFTA/TPP
against Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, etc.
against IWR (at least in hindsight)
they like their social security, and don't want to see it cut/privatized
they have kids who can't afford college
they are no particular fans of banks and wall street

Also, assuming that the Republicans ultimately put up a more "traditional" candidate like Rubio or Bush, there is a large group of anti-establishment Trump/Carson/Fiorina Republicans who may be up for grabs... they wouldn't be Hillary voters, that's another establishment candidate, but Sanders may motivate them to not stay home.

Chef Eric

(1,024 posts)
38. Yes. Sanders spoke at Liberty University.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:36 AM
Nov 2015

In doing so, he showed respect toward young conservatives and earned some of their respect in return.

So, yes, given the choice between staying home, or voting for Sanders, or voting for Trump, I believe that hundreds of thousands of young conservatives would vote for Sanders.

Not a large percentage of them, of course. But hundreds of thousands of them.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
6. Of course he would.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

Because if Trump actually is elected, the US will move quickly toward fascism and war. The Bush dynasty has ALWAYS profited from war.

Here's an excerpt from an earlier DU post about Samuel Prescott Bush, Jeb!'s great grandfather:

In the spring of 1918, Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms and Ammunition Section of the War Industries Board of Bernard Baruch and Clarence Dillon, with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with Remington and other weapons companies. Bush was essentially taking national responsibility for government assistance to his own Remington Arms Company and other weapon makers. Through these weapons manufacturers, Samuel Bush made and sold arms to 75% of the WWI combatants on both sides.

Senate hearings in 1934 by the Nye committee attacked the ‘Merchants of Death’—war profiteers such as Remington Arms and the British Vickers company—whose salesmen had manipulated many nations into war and then supplied weapons to all sides.

Unfortunately most of the records and correspondence of Bush's arms-related section of the government have been burned ‘to save space’ in the National Archives.

Tarpley and Chaitkin say:

"With the war mobilization conducted under the supervision of the War Industries Board, U.S. consumers and taxpayers showered unprecedented fortunes on war producers and certain holders of raw materials and patents. Hearings in 1934 by the committee of U.S. Senator Gerald Nye attacked the "Merchants of Death", war profiteers such as Remington Arms and the British Vickers company, whose salesmen had manipulated many nations into wars, and then supplied all sides with the weapons to fight them. Most of the records and correspondence of Samuel Bush's arms- related section of the government have been burned, "to save space" in the National Archives. This matter of destroyed or misplaced records should be of concern to citizens of a constitutional republic. Unfortunately, it is a rather constant impediment with regard to researching George Bush's background: He is certainly the most "covert" American chief executive."

Samuel Bush was labeled a "Merchant of Death" in the years following the Great War as investigations began into the instigators of the war and of the new emerging world militarism. The German Army under the Kaiser was the largest and most well armed in the world in 1914, and they were largely armed by Samuel Bush. After WWI, Germany was stripped of their arms, but Samuel Bush was allowed to keep his millions, and his arms business was allowed to grow and prosper. In 1944 he was awarded a huge government contract to make armor casings for WWII. He died shortly after the war ended in 1948, within months of the passage of the National Security Act.

Merchants of death will LOVE Trump!

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
11. Well what did you expect?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:13 PM
Nov 2015

He's running for the rethuglican nomination! Can you imagine if it had been the other way around? Their crazy teabagger base would want to have him killed!

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
13. $50 says he would vote for Hillary if Trump was the nominee
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015

Because he would be so bitter and vindictive at losing to Trump he would vote for Clinton out of spite.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
14. A Hillary supporter the other day said she would vote for Trump
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:30 PM
Nov 2015

If Sanders wins the nomination. My guess is that person is a paid hack.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
15. Of course he would support Trump
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

over Hillary. That just shows how dumb Jeb really is. And he's suppose to be "the smart one?" Really?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
16. He signed the pledge, so he has no other way to answer.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

What he will actually do if this happens is a different question. Who knows.

So, yes, this is a gotcha question. nothing more.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
17. IF, she happened to be the candidate...she will lose.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015

The hate towards her is very, very deep...right now, because we are early on, it's just at a simmer...but if and when she makes a larger presence in front of cameras (where the hell is she now? She's virtually invisible!) that simmer will move to a BOIL.

My neighbors...and a lot of co-workers cannot stand her.

The impotent media and the Entrenched Establishment Crowd, the DNC and DWS...will all have been behind us losing the White House to some freak like Rump.

Mark my words.

Response to SoapBox (Reply #17)

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
21. Why would anyone ask him that question?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:57 PM
Nov 2015

Any presidential candidate would state that he would support his party's nominee. Ridiculous question.

 

Lance23

(17 posts)
31. To get a reaction.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
Nov 2015

And they got the one they wanted: "Yes, but ewww." "Anybody but Hillary" is not much of an endorsement.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
22. Right, what a surprise
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

The fact that mainstream media doesn't have the temerity or (more likely) willingness to call
out this seditious family does not speak well for our country. But this goes way back, of course.

The newest manifestation is T.Rump: No reminders that he is not remotely qualified to be president (just like Palin, who
would've been a heartbeat away).

Rick Perry was under federal indictment before he dropped out of the race. No problem, Ricky; you're welcome under
our tent.

Corporate media: Thy name is complicity.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
26. This is news? Werent all the candidates asked if they would support the eventual nominee?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

First debate.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
30. The news is thatsomeone is actually asking.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:56 PM
Nov 2015

This is a gotcha question? Is Trump too fascist for the Bush family?

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
28. I could understand Bush not supporting any candidate in 2016 if he isn't the nominee.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

But Trump?

Trump is ready to go rogue/third party/independent if he isn't annointed the republican nominee, and that includes Bush. Bush would be delusional if he thinks there's a place for him in the Cabinet of "President Trump".

If Bush had to insult HRC, (and he had to . . . ), there was a variety of other ways to do so. But to support Trump is beyond sarcasm and hyperbole. It's stupidity and absolutely no care for this country.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
32. He must appeal to the base. If it really came down to this I doubt he would support Trump.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

Trump would do a lot more damage to the Republican Party's future than Hillary.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
33. That's what they say, but I don't believe them.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:42 PM
Nov 2015

If Trump is the nominee a whole lot of Republicans will be either staying home or voting Democratic.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
41. not surprised "my bro kept us safe" Jeb thinks Trumpelstiltskin can turn straw into gold
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:26 PM
Nov 2015

without making a mess of things. BTW in the Grimm story Rumplestiltskin, the magic imp renegs on his promise to the queen when she reveals his name. Which is what Trumple will do. No way he can deport 12 million immigrants, for example.

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