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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:30 PM Nov 2015

Colorado governor urges toned-down abortion debate after rampage

Source: Bangor Daily News

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado — The attack at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic that killed a police officer and two other people suggests that both sides of the abortion debate in the United States need to “tone down the rhetoric,” the state’s governor said on Sunday.

Gov. John Hickenlooper spoke the morning after unnamed law enforcement authorities told NBC News and other media that the suspected gunman had muttered “no more baby parts” when he was arrested after an hours-long standoff at the Colorado Springs clinic.

Planned Parenthood provides a range of health services for men and women, including abortion.

The remark attributed to 57-year-old Robert Lewis Dear appeared to be a reference to Planned Parenthood’s abortion activities and its role in delivering fetal tissue to researchers, a hot button issue in the 2016 race for the presidency.

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Colorado governor urges toned-down abortion debate after rampage (Original Post) jpak Nov 2015 OP
Both sides? WTF? Since when have pro-choice people been storming mnhtnbb Nov 2015 #1
My thought exactly. ananda Nov 2015 #14
Rhat makes me angry. I'm sick of hearing "both sides do it." yardwork Nov 2015 #25
"Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric." Uh, no governor. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #2
Just sent off most of that message to Hickenlooper: mpcamb Nov 2015 #27
K&rr but wtf is the both sides issue? uppityperson Nov 2015 #3
Both sides. How many so-called prolifers been killed by pro choice advocates? Hickenlooper's a .... marble falls Nov 2015 #4
Grrrrrr. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2015 #21
... Solly Mack Nov 2015 #5
I can't rec due to the "both sides" horse shit. MeNMyVolt Nov 2015 #6
fuck no hickeydooper dembotoz Nov 2015 #7
Gov. Hickenlooper, please have a seat ! n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #8
Both sides? I only see one of the sides bombing or shooting the other for their viewpoint. cstanleytech Nov 2015 #9
Toned down as in, "Please don't shoot and kill any more PP providers"? jalan48 Nov 2015 #10
Wrong! SoapBox Nov 2015 #11
Hey Gov., why don't you start with the entire GOP field of presidential candidates? Then caution sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #12
what are they hearing KT2000 Nov 2015 #13
Fuck you, Hickenlooper. CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #15
Spineless Democrat. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #16
ahhhhh, yes. The old "false equivalence" rhetoric. TygrBright Nov 2015 #17
Yes, lets tone it down elmac Nov 2015 #18
Asshat lark Nov 2015 #19
Both sides? Liberalagogo Nov 2015 #20
Well,I always knew that you are sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #22
More false equivalency. When have pro-choice people spewed hateful rhetoric? That pisses me off. catbyte Nov 2015 #23
both sides Skittles Nov 2015 #24
Because pro-choicers have killed how many people? CrispyQ Nov 2015 #26
Yay triangulation!!! jeff47 Nov 2015 #28
Hickenlooper is such a lightweight. Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #29
Hickenlooper is mostly a disappointment, mountain grammy Nov 2015 #30

mnhtnbb

(31,395 posts)
1. Both sides? WTF? Since when have pro-choice people been storming
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

any kind of organization killing people because they don't support a woman's right to choose?


The anti-choice people need to BACK THE FU*K OFF! If you don't like abortion, don't get one!
If you don't like contraception, don't use it!
End of problem.

ananda

(28,867 posts)
14. My thought exactly.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:57 PM
Nov 2015

AFAIK, only one side is spouting violent extremism and
it's not the pro-choice side.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
2. "Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric." Uh, no governor.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

One side is pushing inflamed rhetoric. "Both sides are doing it" is a copout and victim blaming. What is the "other side" saying which is the equivalent of one side talking about "selling baby parts?" Answer: Nothing.

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
27. Just sent off most of that message to Hickenlooper:
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:29 PM
Nov 2015

"both sides need to “tone down the rhetoric”

No.
One side does.

One side has consistently called for bloodletting on the other.
One side has been murdering health care professionals and police.

THAT side needs to stop inflaming the issue.
* * * * *

But you said it better and more completely. MP

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
4. Both sides. How many so-called prolifers been killed by pro choice advocates? Hickenlooper's a ....
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:13 PM
Nov 2015

jackass.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
5. ...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:14 PM
Nov 2015
"I think we should have a discussion at least urging caution when we discuss some of these issues, so we don’t get people to a point of going out and committing violence,” he said..."


So, one side (pro-woman, pro-choice ) provokes the other side - the clinic bombing, doctor shooting terrorists - with words of support for abortion?

Stating facts about abortion, calling out people who make videos filled with lies, and those who spout falsehoods about abortion is what causes the sick fucks to resort to violence?

Seriously?

"Both sides" are NOT to blame. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Way to blame the victims.





 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
6. I can't rec due to the "both sides" horse shit.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:16 PM
Nov 2015

There is nothing remotely similar happening on the pro-choice side, whether in rhetoric, or any kind of violence. I'm so sick of the "both sides" crap on this, or just about any other issue.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
12. Hey Gov., why don't you start with the entire GOP field of presidential candidates? Then caution
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:52 PM
Nov 2015

the GOP-led House to abandon their witch hunt against Planned Parenthood. How about investigating the guys who made the fake videos?



"I think we should have a discussion at least urging caution when we discuss some of these issues, so we don’t get people to a point of going out and committing violence,” he said..."

KT2000

(20,584 posts)
13. what are they hearing
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

from the pro-choice side? Are they shooting up places, setting fires, harassing patients?
I am sick of this both sides are doing it. Planned parenthood has every right to stand up to dishonest people promoting lying videos.
It is time for everyone to call out the nuts, agitators, and criminals who are endangering the lives of innocent people - not the pro-choice side by the way.

TygrBright

(20,762 posts)
17. ahhhhh, yes. The old "false equivalence" rhetoric.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:16 PM
Nov 2015

Okay, Goob. Tellya what.

Us advocates for a woman's right to determine what happens with her body will stop rampaging through fundie churches and shooting ministers and anti-abortion activists, if they'll stop rampaging through women's health facilities and shooting doctors and healthcare professionals.

Deal?

Didn't think so.

sourly,
Bright

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. Yes, lets tone it down
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:16 PM
Nov 2015

so the rightwing nut jobs can keep getting away with inciting violence. I'm Sick and tired of women hating big government republican pukes spewing their poison and I will not tone it down.

lark

(23,118 posts)
19. Asshat
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:35 PM
Nov 2015

Both sides, my lilly white ass! It's 100% the women hating rw assholes who spew lies and who kill because of them. Who on the left does this? No one!!! Name one left wing crazy mass killer in the last 40 years, I dare you. Maybe I missed it?

This is just another rwnj trying to cover up his sides' sins, because they are so totally heinous. The RW hates and fears women so tries to keep them subservient by making them have babies all the time, wanted or not. So any group that tires to help women gains their ire and lies and lying videos to purposefully promote killing of these doctors, nurses and helpers.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
22. Well,I always knew that you are
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:49 PM
Nov 2015

a spineless DINO, governor. You just proved it
again and again. Just as you claimed to be for
more gun control before you spoke to the
sheriffs. Governor Flip Flop!

And you are not even up for reelection !
Shame on you!

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
30. Hickenlooper is mostly a disappointment,
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:03 PM
Nov 2015

and, once again, he steps in it. What a completely ridiculous thing to say. Glad I'll never have to vote for him again, but he governor's race in Colorado is always a scary prospect.

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