"Iraqi fighters say they have all seen the videos purportedly showing U.S. helicopters airdropping weapons to the militants, and many claim they have friends and relatives who have witnessed similar instances of collusion."

the same kind of crap donald is pushing about seeing videos of thousands and thousands of Muslims celebrating 9/11. Bullshit rules when you're trying to stoke fear and anger.

Sure it is. How can you tell?

told the whoever it is to hide their flags. Usually, you see these convoys proudly flying their flags but for some strange reason, these guys dare not flying any flags. But then again, who is really going to believe that the US who is actively "bombing" ISIS is covertly supporting them at the same time?

That sure looks like an Apache helicopter to me. Who else has Apaches, the Saudi's, Turks? This ISIS thing is crazy. I'd be interested to hear what Bob Baer has to say about this.
Stonecarver

Damn.

What do you think the helicopter escorting the convoy was?

Your post is somewhat ironic.

1. How do you know that is an ISIS convoy?
2. How do you know that is an Apache helicopter?

(Looks like a Russian helicopter to me)

I can't make any sense of American policy.

Our allies support ISIS, and it wasn't in our interests to stop them, so long as they were only fucking up Syria, and not getting to close to Baghdad or massacring the Kurds. The fact that they make Al-Qaeda and people who fight along side them look like "moderates" I guess is just a bonus.

Surely the US could bomb the oil trucks and put a stop to ISIS oil sales, if they really wanted to.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supporting ISIS. Hard to imagine the US is not, really.

U.S. Warplanes Strike ISIS Oil Trucks in Syria

Intensifying pressure on the Islamic State, United States warplanes for the first time attacked hundreds of trucks on Monday that the extremist group has been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing in Syria, American officials said.
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According to an initial assessment, 116 trucks were destroyed in the attack, which took place near Deir al-Zour, an area in eastern Syria that is controlled by the Islamic State. The airstrikes were carried out by four A-10 attack planes and two AC-130 gunships based in Turkey.

Until Monday, the United States refrained from striking the fleet used to transport oil, believed to include more than 1,000 tanker trucks, because of concerns about causing civilian casualties. As a result, the Islamic State’s distribution system for exporting oil had remained largely intact.

To reduce the risk of harming civilians, two F-15 warplanes dropped leaflets about an hour before the attack warning drivers to abandon their vehicles, and strafing runs were conducted to reinforce the message.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/middleeast/us-strikes-syria-oil.html?_r=0

target and strike oil facilities in Syria last Sept./Oct., and then stop? We're just so concerned with oil truck drivers...really? The environment? Syria's oil industry? Come on. We could have chopped ISIS off at the knees with just an air war. But we didn't. And now it's a ground war.

I can understand why the Iraqis would be skeptical.

quaint......................................................
This country has done the following :
Had over 9,000 air strikes
Spent close to 500 million and climbing
Deployed a aircraft carrier to the region again, and having aircraft going out of Turkey bombing the proverbial C************p.
Supported the Pershmerga Kurdish forces, since the Iraq soldiers dropped there guns on ground and ran.
The Baathist party is alive and well they are now called ISS ,
We now have over 3,500 troops embedded in the country

And the best one out of this entire mess is ...................
The US CONGRESS HAS NOT EVEN authorized ANYTHING, or taken up a vote on this authorization........................

It must be really nice to spend all of this money, and get a paycheck and completely shirk your god damn CONSTITUTIONAL responsibility and not even hold a vote, but we have the congress trying to defund Planned parenthood





Honk--------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

There are vast worldwide industries cranking out awesome armaments for the highest bidder.
Always have been, always will be until World War 4.
Back to sticks and stones to start all over again.

it happened to H.Clinton once--she was travelling somewhere in the globe and besieged by people who accused her of various misdeeds that originate in US/Russian conspiracy/fake news websites.

"Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you" and sometimes "where there is smoke there is fire". Add that to the history of the US using Sunni Islamic armies to fight their wars, at least even you can understand why locals are buying into this C/T.

folks who celebrate the fact that propaganda and lies might prevail.

it's understandable that Iraqis might fall for the lies, even though it's ultimately terribly ignorant and warped for them to do so

that we are objectively more interested in overthrowing Assad than isis, and have been for 3 years. Obama has said so repeatedly. Also the fact that when Russia tries to destroy them we authorize shooting down their fighter jets.

We do this despite the fact that Obama admits there are no Syrian moderates.

The only people who care about the Kremlin are people who can't get past the friggen cold war.

They think that they can keep them as a controlled fire. The goal is to keep Russian influence out.

Yes, we are that stupid.

So the US is smart enough to protect, nurture and apparently create ISIS, but it's also stupid because Russia.

Sounds like good RT/Alex Jones logic.

They aren't really protecting them. They're just using them as pawns in a geopolitical grudge match with Russia.

I assure you that the U.S. Government is not competent enough to actually create or maintain an organization like ISIS. They're just using them, the FSA, Al Nusra, etc. to weaken Assad so that they can put their paid idiot into power.

Think the U.S. actually cares about the civilians in Syria? It's all about power and resources. Nothing more, nothing less.

and is being used to threaten the EU especially Belgium was in lockdown and could it be the reason
to scare Europeans into giving up their rights just as America's Congress did with the Patriot Act

It isn't going to make Europeans happy to know we may have connections with Isil and given support and weapons to them

We just tolerate their presence due to their fight against Assad. We don't care about ISIS - we care about Russia's influence in the area. The same is true of Russia, but they want to support Assad and keep influence in Syria. Both sides are "helping" ISIS - just indirectly.

or like Putin accidentally created Pussy Riot.

Nuts.

ISIS was created by George Bush's foreign policies.

all the time, and those just can't help it, probably respect their Iraqi counterparts a lot more they do than "clueless" liberals like me. They certainly have a great deal in common.

I think the goal is simply to make sure that Saudi influence dominates the Arab nations. The Saudi's, being Wahhabi radicals themselves with a great deal of influence over surrounding nations, are somewhat friendly to the United States and aren't overtly antagonistic to Israel, so American policymakers see a Saudi dominated Middle East as a positive outcome. Their radical government also makes them somewhat acceptable to the middle eastern religious right. That puts them in a good position to completely dominate Middle Eastern politics because they're one of the few players that all sides (except Iran) can put up with (as long as you don't care about pesky things like human rights and equality anyway).

ISIS gets a lot of funding and aid from Saudi Arabia, as do other Syrian rebel groups. At some point, that aid will translate to control, and Saudi domination of the Arab nations will be complete. America will be happy, the wahhabi extremists will be happy, Israel will be happy, and the gas station owners will be happy. Women? Gays? Religious minorities? Hey...peace and low oil prices require sacrifice, so they'll have to do their part.

they are, no doubt, finding U.S. arms in the hands of ISIS.

it doesn't take much to lead one to that conclusion.

the money and arms we have been sending to the "rebels" has been, for months, either given to or stolen by ISIS.

and yet, we still give more.

funding and arming them by proxy.

Yet, after THOUSANDS of bombing runs, the lights are still on in ISIS dominated cities. Cell towers are still functioning -- allowing for the uploading of videos of atrocities to the internet, and the roads transporting terrorist oil remain navigable. ??? Look at your own city, and ask yourself what shred of infrastructure would remain if 8000 bombing runs had been leveled against it.

I don't believe that the U.S. is supporting ISIS, but it's plain that the U.S. is going out of its way not to really deal a killing blow to it... at least not yet. Perhaps it's for some strategic reason -- for the sake of civilians, I suppose.

PLEASE let it be for some brilliant strategic reason!