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mitty14u2

(1,015 posts) Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:50 AM Dec 2015

Updated - Authorities identify couple who killed 14 at San Bernardino holiday party

Source: LATimes

Dressed in black masks and tactical gear, armed with long guns and pistols, they entered a holiday party for county health workers in San Bernardino as it was in full swing. Before they fled, they had killed 14 people and wounded 17 others.

Four hours later, as fearful residents were ordered to stay home and scores of officers swarmed the streets, authorities chased a black SUV carrying two suspects from a home in the nearby city of Redlands. As TV news stations broadcast live overhead, the chase spilled back onto San Bernardino's streets, where authorities and the suspects traded gunfire.

When it was over, a man and woman connected to the assault were dead. One body lay in the street, blood pooling. Another was recovered from the vehicle. A police officer also was wounded in the firefight but is expected to survive.

Late Wednesday night, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan identified the people killed in the gun battle with police as Syed Rizwan Farook, a 28-year-old American citizen, and 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik. Police did not know where Malik was born or where she had lived.

Burquan said police are "reasonably confident" Farook and Malik, who may have been married or engaged, were the same two people who opened fire at the holiday party Wednesday morning.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html

1:45 AM Dec 3

By morning more will be known, many things people learned yesterday has changed so the facts are coming in fast. What I have seen is Professorial Procedures under heavy pressure with unknown variables changing very quickly.

It will be a horrible night for the people involved especially the challenged the challenged parents and care givers, so bow your rather then raising your temper and promoting more guns!

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Updated - Authorities identify couple who killed 14 at San Bernardino holiday party (Original Post) mitty14u2 Dec 2015 OP

So what happened to their baby, the neighbor said they had a newborn flamingdem Dec 2015 #1

I read they dropped the baby leftynyc Dec 2015 #17

Still not enough for the gun nuts liberal N proud Dec 2015 #2

All it does is make them buy more guns and feed their racism. trillion Dec 2015 #9

Okay, maybe it was a random office shooting but adding the woman and that they have a trillion Dec 2015 #3

Persons from the ME culture tend to have male dominated jwirr Dec 2015 #19

More info on the couple: darkangel218 Dec 2015 #4

If he really brought a terrorist back from Saudi Arabia with him Democat Dec 2015 #5

I agree. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #6

A US citizen returning home does not need a visa. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #8

Apparently he brought his wife with him from Saudi Arabia darkangel218 Dec 2015 #12

Absolutely. 840high Dec 2015 #11

I agree. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #13

It's likely there are two other killers on the loose. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #7

Yes, because right now it isn't adding up. I mean they have a 6 month old baby and some old guy trillion Dec 2015 #14

Sounds like a copycat crime JohnnyRingo Dec 2015 #10

All the NSA spying on our communications failed to detect these people OakCliffDem Dec 2015 #15

So they can LiberalElite Dec 2015 #18

Trump's going to have a field day with this deutsey Dec 2015 #16

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)

1. So what happened to their baby, the neighbor said they had a newborn

Reply to mitty14u2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:56 AM

Dec 2015

Plus, and older man living with them.

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

17. I read they dropped the baby

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:37 AM

Dec 2015

off with a grandparent telling them they had a dentists appointment.

liberal N proud

(60,340 posts)

2. Still not enough for the gun nuts

Reply to mitty14u2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:03 AM

Dec 2015

Still not enough to drive a little control on weapons of mass killing.

Still not enough to drive even a discussion on weapons of mass killing.

Still not enough...

trillion

(1,859 posts)

9. All it does is make them buy more guns and feed their racism.

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:24 AM

Dec 2015

Wonder how many of them want that race war anyway. I've seen a lot of them calling for one since Dylan Roof.

trillion

(1,859 posts)

3. Okay, maybe it was a random office shooting but adding the woman and that they have a

Reply to mitty14u2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:05 AM

Dec 2015

6 month old child is making this sound more and more fishy. I hope they provide a lot more info because I'm starting to need to be convinced they did it. Islamo fear helps a lot of people - trump and bush's campaigns as well as keeps wars and bombs going and the defense companies rich. It even helps justify mass surveliance and patriot acts.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)

19. Persons from the ME culture tend to have male dominated

Reply to trillion (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:40 PM

Dec 2015

marriages that do not allow a lot of choice for women. Not saying that this is the case. Just reminding people that this woman may not have had a lot to say about what they were doing.

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)

4. More info on the couple:

Reply to mitty14u2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:06 AM

Dec 2015

Police said at a press conference on the night of December 2 that they are unsure if Farook and Malik were married or just engaged. However an earlier report from the Los Angeles Times said that Farook had married in the past six months. The Times said Farook had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and came back to the U.S. with a wife that he had met online.

More at the link:

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/tashfeen-malik-syed-farook-wife-suspect-inland-regional-center-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-facebook-page/

Democat

(11,617 posts)

5. If he really brought a terrorist back from Saudi Arabia with him

Reply to darkangel218 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:12 AM

Dec 2015

It could be more evidence that U.S. visa screening procedures need to be reviewed.

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)

6. I agree.

Reply to Democat (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:15 AM

Dec 2015

It's funny though that Saudi Arabia is once again a common denominator.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)

8. A US citizen returning home does not need a visa.

Reply to Democat (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:19 AM

Dec 2015

Maybe Obama should release the 28 pages from the 911 report that indicate Saudi involvement in that attack.

“There’s nothing in it about national security,” Walter Jones, a Republican congressman from North Carolina who has read the missing pages, contends. “It’s about the Bush Administration and its relationship with the Saudis.” Stephen Lynch, a Massachusetts Democrat, told me that the document is “stunning in its clarity,” and that it offers direct evidence of complicity on the part of certain Saudi individuals and entities in Al Qaeda’s attack on America. “Those twenty-eight pages tell a story that has been completely removed from the 9/11 Report,” Lynch maintains. Another congressman who has read the document said that the evidence of Saudi government support for the 9/11 hijacking is “very disturbing,” and that “the real question is whether it was sanctioned at the royal-family level or beneath that, and whether these leads were followed through.” Now, in a rare example of bipartisanship, Jones and Lynch have co-sponsored a resolution requesting that the Obama Administration declassify the pages.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)

12. Apparently he brought his wife with him from Saudi Arabia

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:41 AM

Dec 2015

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/tashfeen-malik-syed-farook-wife-suspect-inland-regional-center-san-bernardino-shooting-suspect-facebook-page/

840high

(17,196 posts)

11. Absolutely.

Reply to Democat (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:36 AM

Dec 2015

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)

13. I agree.

Reply to Democat (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:48 AM

Dec 2015

And for someone to shoot at co-workers like that is just very strange to me unless there was either some friction at work or he really was such a religious fanatic that he cared about no one but himself.

I have worked in San Bernardino on occasion. I would have expected some sort of right-wing attack but not this kind of an attack. It was clearly well planned. Farook's online communications with his wife or fiancee wills surely be subpoenaed and reviewed very carefully. Because their may be accomplices in the US or overseas who need to be held responsible.

It could be terrorism or it could be anger about a conflict at work. More information will clarify this. Certainly, if it was terrorism, then non-Muslims will be very careful in dealing with anyone who might possibly be Muslim, and that is understandable.

I heard on CBS that Farook was born in Chicago.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)

7. It's likely there are two other killers on the loose.

Reply to mitty14u2 (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:17 AM

Dec 2015

Initial reports indicated three men firing. The GF was likely a getaway driver.

trillion

(1,859 posts)

14. Yes, because right now it isn't adding up. I mean they have a 6 month old baby and some old guy

Reply to Jesus Malverde (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:49 AM

Dec 2015

living with them. Maybe she was just the driver. Still, for both of them to do this makes it even more unplausible. They don't sound like a typical shooters or typical terrorists. A work place is not usually a political agenda spot to hit. How he got others engaged in shooting up his co-workers doesn't sound right. This sounds fishy as heck.