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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:26 AM Dec 2015

Air Force burning through bomb stockpiles striking ISIL

Source: USA Today

The Air Force has fired more than 20,000 missiles and bombs in the air war against the Islamic State, depleting its stocks of munitions and prompting the service to scour depots around the world for more weapons and to find money to buy them, according to records obtained by USA TODAY.

The Air Force efforts come as the Pentagon has stepped up airstrikes on Islamic State, or ISIL, targets in Iraq and Syria. That bombing campaign began in August 2014 in Iraq, spread to Syria a month later and has continued to target ISIL fighters and equipment.

"We're in the business of killing terrorists and business is good," Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James said in statement. "We need to replenish our munitions stock. Weapons take years to produce from the day the contract is assigned until they roll off the production line."

The Air Force carries out most of the bombing runs, using a variety of warplanes from single-prop Predator drones to huge B-1 bombers. Navy and Marine pilots, and several other countries, also fly missions.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/12/03/isil-iraq-syria-hellfire-missiles-drones/76741954/



Pentagon needs more money. What a surprise.
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Air Force burning through bomb stockpiles striking ISIL (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 OP
20,000!?!?!?!? Moostache Dec 2015 #1
weren't there about 20,000 members of isis? 6chars Dec 2015 #6
Much of it goes to destroying infrastructure. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #7
She itsrobert Dec 2015 #8
"We're in the business of killing terrorists, and business is good"--what is TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #2
Our good buddies at LOCKHEED MARTIN make a very nice all purpose bomb. MADem Dec 2015 #3
Wow $21k per bomb. That's more than some people's yearly salary. PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #15
During the Vietnam War we dropped so many bombs LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2015 #4
mission accomplished! nt msongs Dec 2015 #5
Going for broke.. HoosierCowboy Dec 2015 #9
Makes me feel real good about paying my taxes for this year CanonRay Dec 2015 #10
Great news if you own an ammunition factory! Gregorian Dec 2015 #11
"Pentagon needs more money." BINGO! Myrina Dec 2015 #12
War's a racket oioioi Dec 2015 #13
"Business is good" packman Dec 2015 #14
Pew pew alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #16
One of the reasons the US says they only took out 100 ISIS oil trucks out of thousands... Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #17
And how many billions have we spent? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #18
At least half a billion arming and training "moderate" jihadists alone...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #19
a program we gave up on, so a total waste Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #20
We are predictably bankrupting ourselves villager Dec 2015 #21
You have got to be kidding me LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #22

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
1. 20,000!?!?!?!?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:43 AM
Dec 2015

I have to say, that much ordinance discharged should have a much better outcome than the current status quo.

Either we can't hit the broadside of a barn with our targeting or we simply are throwing bombs blindly all over the deserts in a vain attempt to kill everything in sight.

Neither of those make me feel "safer"

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
7. Much of it goes to destroying infrastructure.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 06:33 AM
Dec 2015

I am also a little disgusted how he says "the Contract is signed". See, 40 years ago, we had our own Depots and we had federal employees building munitions for our military. We dialed up stuff as quickly as we needed. Now, thanks to Reagan and his cronies, we have "Contracts". It takes a year just to get a Contract in place, plus now we get to pay the Contracts Manager, the Program Manager, and on and on....oh, and all of them bill out at at least $120/hr.


Does this make America safer? Stronger? NO! However, it helps Rethuglicans get elected and gives the dual benefit of screwing the federal employee (all the Depots are closed now) and pads the pockets of Boeing and Martin Marietta who in turn, pad their pockets. It is a ruse.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. "We're in the business of killing terrorists, and business is good"--what is
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:44 AM
Dec 2015

with this tough-talk John Wayne bullshit? Who fucking talks like this? We'll give you more money, just shut up.

4. During the Vietnam War we dropped so many bombs
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 04:04 AM
Dec 2015

that had we dropped the same tonnage in bowling balls we could have covered the entire country -- five times over! (Can't find the source for this -- just one of those factoids that takes up space in my head.)

Because of Iraq War II we ran through so much ammunition that by 2013 we had to buy it from the Israelis. source

It would probably be cheaper to give every member of ISIS $100,000 not to attack us.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
9. Going for broke..
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:13 AM
Dec 2015

If we keep hitting goat herder tents with bombs worth half a million. At least drop it on a target worth half a million. Do the math.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. Great news if you own an ammunition factory!
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:26 AM
Dec 2015

Congratulations all of you greedy people who make bombs. You're rich. On the surface.

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
13. War's a racket
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dec 2015

War's a racket, so I'm told
Fought by sons for sins of old
It's good for business, that is all
Fine men go - and there they fall
Gone for some old geezer's gold

Leaden bullets, bought and sold
Big boats and all those guns they hold
Need a reload? You just call
War's a racket

Now the dead are not yet cold
But still we must be brave and bold
Though ghastly toll and bloody gall
Latest takings seem too small
To those dudes and the shares they hold
War's a racket

-nearbeer

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
14. "Business is good"
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015

Sad words -

I remember a story my mother told me about sitting on a bus crowded with women coming home from the factories during WWII. A woman was telling her friend how she hoped the war would never end because she was making a lot of money in overtime. Another woman got up and slapped her and with tears streaming done her face sobbed at her that her husband was killed in action that week.

Yah, business is good.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
17. One of the reasons the US says they only took out 100 ISIS oil trucks out of thousands...
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:42 PM
Dec 2015

"They ran out of bullets." I'll post a link in a few hours.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
21. We are predictably bankrupting ourselves
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:04 PM
Dec 2015

As I've said before, our model for a "country" isn't sustainable through mid-century and beyond.

Not when climate change effects begin kicking in in earnest....

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