Turkey would simply waltze into Iraq without other Nato members saying "Weve got your back"

when they shot down that Russian jet?

The words, "first put you own house in order" come to mind. Of course, the obvious response is that the mess in that house is solely our doing. So there's that.

Makes one wonder about whether there is even a solution to the problem we started there.

Violations of national sovereignty left and right these days.

Why, yes, it is.

Where's the outrage?

It's another stunningly clear example of NATO's achilles heel -- too many NATO members with grudges and agendas all their own that can take precipitous military actions at any time with out NATO-wide approval. It's a ticking time bomb.

this is just a rotation of troops, so, why did Baghdad wait for 2 1/2 years before raising a stink?

I suspect the Kremlin is behind this.

if any such agreement actual exists with the Iraqi central government.

"Iraq's Foreign Ministry summoned the Turkish ambassador on Saturday to demand that Turkey immediately withdraw hundreds of troops deployed in recent days to northern Iraq, near the Islamic State-controlled city of Mosul.

The ministry said in a statement the Turkish forces had entered Iraqi territory without the knowledge of the central government in Baghdad, and that Iraq considered such presence "a hostile act"."


Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-turkey-idUSKBN0TO0AU20151205#yWY4cG8p6PuMiTHw.99

but don't you find it just a tad bit of a coincidence that a stink is now being raised shortly after Turkey shot down a Russian bomber that was intruding into it's airspace?

Again, I sense the hand of the Kremlin behind this.

Think about it.

I bet the local sunni's had an arrangement for some training and Baghdad didn't care much, but now that Turkey has brought in 100's of troops and tank support Baghdad has had enough of that.

You have said twice now that these troops have been there for 2.5 years, and this was a normal rotation, could you please provide a link that states the number of Turkish troops that have been there for 2.5 years and the number of tanks they have had with them? Thanks in advance.

In any case, Iraq is a sovereign nation and is demanding that Turkey withdraw these troops and tanks posthaste. Turkey should comply quickly.

Sounds like Baghdad has had a change of heart, perhaps the Shiite central government is trying to reign in the regional sunni forces that have been operating as a state-within-a-state, as the Kurds have. Or, maybe Pootie Poot Putin is pulling strings. Or the Iranians.
Perhaps Turkey just screwed the pooch shooting down that Russian jet and now previous arrangements are being revised by all parties.

In any case, Iraq is a sovereign nation and Turkey should withdraw any and all troops that the Baghdad government demands they do, right?

That gives some people the sadz.

very few bombing missions have been against ISIS, he doesn't give 2 shits about civilian casualties, his bombers have hit at least 3 hospitals, etc.
He's mostly bombing Assad's enemies, not ISIS, but the other rebel groups.
His bombers were routinely violating Turkish airspace, but not anymore.

Russia's airstrikes in Syria "do not go beyond ISIL (ISIS), al Nusra or other terrorist groups recognized by the United Nations Security Council or Russian law," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Thursday.

Pushed to define "other terrorist groups," Lavrov said: "If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it's a terrorist, right?"

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/01/middleeast/russia-syria/

Turkey being such sticklers for national sovereignty and the integrity of borders.

Question: which is the more erratic ally ?

1) Syria/Assad

2) Turkey/Ergodan

They can bomb them just like they do to Daesh.

No wonder RT, al Jazeera, Deutche Wella, etc have become necessary sources.

and Baghdad is just noticing?

The northern part of Iraq is defacto Kurdish territory and Baghdad is pissed off that the Kurds are being trained to fight ISIS.
If Baghdad were so concerned, then why wait 2 1/2 years before raising a stink?
I smell the hand of the Kremlin here.

And I think it's a pretty silly idea.
3 times.

Because it doesn't fit your meme?

it says meme, not mama.

(Sorry, it was just funny lol)

they could mistake it for mama.

It seems awfully strange that the Turks would train Kurds, especially when the Peshmerga and the PKK have fought as allies, that's why it's a silly idea!

politics make strange bedfellows?
Well, this may be a case of it.
Who the hell knows what goes on in the ME.