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Me, I am going to get Dr. Strangelove cued up on the tv.

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but it didn't get a lot of attention until the mid 1800s when John Darby started spouting it.

Interestingly enough, the United Church of Christ (not to be confused with the Church of Christ) which traces its beginning back to the Puritans does not preach the rapture and considers it a false doctrine.

I just hope that cooler heads will prevail in the end. War is never the answer.

Putin isn't preparing for nuclear war.

With weapons of mass destruction in hand, can war be far behind.

Their purpose is to create a wide area of destruction, but the counter missiles would also destroy you in the process. If you're certain to suffer a devastating level of destruction in the process, any goals that justified to use of nukes in the first place kind of go out the window. That's basically the concept of MAD.

That's in a rational world, though, which isn't always the case.

This Citizen thinks not.

The Weapons still exist.

The Weapons can still be used irrationally by power mad elites of any political stripe or nationalistic persuasion.

The only thing that has changed is we no longer pretend that a Grade School desk will protect the Children of the World.

I am pretty sure that we do.

It's called Looking Glass, airborne command post. It's been around since the early '60s. It was started because once it became clear that USSR had ICBM capability, Hq SAC at Omaha NB would be history if someone thought about the unthinkable. The Air Force used to man it, now it's under the Navy's command, probably due to command of the nuke boats which in theory could survive a first strike.

How high level civilian command gets covered, don't know.

Designated E-4 by the Air Force, the National Airborne Operations Center is always on alert and close to the president so it can be used as a command post during a national emergency.

Theoretically, the president would transfer from Air Force One (a VC-25) to the E-4 when something bad happens. Supposedly, an E-4 was circling in the D.C. area on an exercise when 9/11 happened, which is why Bush didn't use it and was supposedly "out of the loop" after the attacks.

We used to practice aerial refueling when the president was in Southern California:



That's really close! Aerial refueling gives the E-4 unlimited range and endurance.

The aircraft is also used during natural disasters to fly emergency personnel to the problem area, so they can take charge until the ground support can arrive.

From the article.

US Civilians to duck and cover during a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union.

We school kids back then were't doing drills about conventional weaponry during that era. It was all about "the Big One."

My grammar school was about fifteen miles from the center of downtown Chicago, and about fifteen miles from Northern Indiana steel mills. Had Kruschev and JFk not handled the Cuban missile crisis so well, I would not be typing this message out to you. I would have been one of the fifty million Americans who died in a nuclear exchange.

Unlike Kennedy, someone like Obama will do what ever the fuck his military commander tell him to do. And tht is one scary thought.

Operation Looking Glass

Fascinating presentation on how Looking Glass could take control and launch the missles should local control become compromised.

Well worth the time if in SD near Wall.

I was stationed at Offutt in the mid 1970's. Worked in the shop next to the Looking Glass guys. We were Rivet Joint, a recon platform also based on 135's.

Used to hear LG take off at midnight. Barracks wasn't that far from the flight line.

"Despite military experts saying the multimillion weapon will not be ready for operations until the end of 2015, it’s reported Mr Putin has ordered for it to be ready in just two weeks time"

Two weeks out puts us at about the end of 2015 :-P

get Jeebus here quicker.

too bad I have to resort to making fun of this person, who if he lived was a pretty cool cat.

Honestly Humanity is really screwing itself over repeatedly by not learning from our past.

AlastairMcKenzie2 hours ago
Why do you constastly scare munger? I've taken screenshots of your "headlines" for the past month or two and lucky if 20% of them have come to fruition! Super-storms, armageddon etc etc etc. Risible journalism at best. Imagine putting the fear of god into the less educated of us. Poor, poor writing

Shoot down this plane, and you decapitate them. This seems more like fodder for the sensationalist media than it does like any sort of plan that actual military strategists would suggest.

than this apparently original source:

Please bring more discernment to bear.

Of course, "Imminent Nuclear War!" sells more copy than a header announcing "Russia updates its military gear."

And we have the same stuff. I mean, different of course,as our engineers do things very differently, but still the same. And if we update it, it remains secret, or buried on back pages of a newspaper, like page 27 of the NYT. (Just as the tens of billions of dollars that Obama gave and loaned to the nuclear warhead industry remained rather secret.)

From Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debkafile

So strange.

this kind of stuff doesn't worry me as it apparently does you.
You're gonna be an emotional wreck soon if you think that everything that happens in the world that's bad is a Putin plot for conquering the solar system.
Tak it easy.
Read some history of the Soviet Union.
Or American history!

Duck and cover..

I doubt we're going to have one over Bashar Assad.

Just like Looking Glass, it's an airborne command post. I'm only surprised it took the Russians this long to create one.

So we can file this under "Big Whoop".

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Despite military experts saying the multimillion weapon will not be ready for operations until the end of 2015, it’s reported Mr Putin has ordered for it to be ready in just two weeks time as tensions flare between Russia and Turkey.
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Check your calendars cowards.

nice catch.

"See I knew we could go it, we beat our deadline, just shows the power and fortitude of mother Russia"

I wonder at what temperature violin strings melt.

Another scary movie....

Renegade Soviet military officers steal a nuclear missile, launching it at the Soviet city of Donetsk from Turkey. Soviet defense systems, believing a NATO attack is in progress, order an immediate launch of ICBMs and SLBMs at the United States.

and wanted to watch it again.

Kinda makes you wonder about that Nuke that was stolen from Minot AFB during the Cheney, I mean Bush administration...

In the US we are pooping our pants over Syrian refugees.

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No worries Mate. The plane will crash on its own.

99% (or whatever) of human life would die either in the initial exchange, or shortly after. Every government in the whole world would collapse. The world would become irradiated and darker.

Even if Putin nuked the U.S. with absolutely no nukes fired back, he would just starve or irradiate his own people. Launching nuclear missiles is like sticking a loaded gun in your own mouth and pulling the trigger.

Basically, there would be nothing left to manage. Having a President survive the initial exchange would be pointless. There would be no need for Presidents anymore.

Plus, since they would eventually have to land, they would all probably either starve or die from the radiation. Even if they survived, they wouldn't have a country left to lead.

However, as long as one guy has reason to believe the other guy would survive long enough to return the favor, somewhat less likely to start stuff.

We have each other by the balls, let's not squeeze.

Hell won't be unleashed deliberately by either us or the Russians; it'll start with a fuck up. "Our lives are depended upon Soviet computer technology." Carl Sagan.

Generally sabre rattling, nothing more...

"...and don't call me Shirley."

Muffley:
What... what is it, what?

DeSadeski:
The fools... the mad fools.

Muffley:
What's happened?

DeSadeski:
The doomsday machine.

Muffley:
The doomsday machine? What is that?

DeSadeski:
A device which will destroy all human and animal life on earth.

Muffley:
All human and animal life?

DeSadeski:
When it is detonated, it will produce enough lethal radioactive fallout so that within ten months, the surface of the earth will be as dead as the moon!

Turgidson:
Ah, come on DeSadeski, that's ridiculous. Our studies show that even the worst fallout is down to a safe level after two weeks.

DeSadeski:
You've obviously never heard of cobalt thorium G.

Turgidson:
No, what about it?

DeSadeski:
Cobalt thorium G has a radioactive halflife of ninety three years. If you take, say, fifty H-bombs in the hundred megaton range and jacket them with cobalt thorium G, when they are exploded they will produce a doomsday shroud. A lethal cloud of radioactivity which will encircle the earth for ninety three years!

Turgidson:
Ah, what a load of commie bull. I mean, afterall...

Muffley:
I'm afraid I don't understand something, Alexiy. Is the Premier threatening to explode this if our planes carry out their attack?

DeSadeski:
No sir. It is not a thing a sane man would do. The doomsday machine is designed to to trigger itself automatically.

Muffley:
But surely you can disarm it somehow.

DeSadeski:
No. It is designed to explode if any attempt is ever made to untrigger it.

Muffley:
Automatically?

Turgidson:
Ahh.. it's an obvious commie trick, Mr. President. We're wasting valuable time. Look at the big board! They're getting ready to clobber us!

Muffley:
But this is absolute madness, ambassador. Why should you build such a thing?

DeSadeski:
There are those of us who fought against it, but in the end we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. And at the same time our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we'd been spending on defense in a single year. But the deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a doomsday gap.

Muffley:
This is preposterous. I've never approved of anything like that.

DeSadeski:
Our source was the New York Times.