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Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:36 AM Dec 2015

India is second most ignorant nation of the world: Survey

Source: Press Trust of India

India is second most ignorant nation of the world: Survey
Posted on: 06:54 PM IST Dec 06, 2015
Press Trust of India

London: India has the "dubious honour" of being the second most ignorant nation in the world after Mexico, according to a survey which posed questions on issues like inequality, non-religious population, female employment and internet access. The survey conducted by Ipsos MORI, a London-based market research firm, polled 25,000 people from 33 countries and found that while people "over-estimate what we worry about", a lot of major issues are underestimated.

"Mexico and India receive the dubious honour of being the most inaccurate in their perceptions on these issues, while South Koreans are the most accurate, followed by the Irish," the survey said. The rankings of the nations were based on the "Index of Ignorance" which was determined by questions about wealth that the top one per cent own, obesity, non-religious population, immigration, living with parents, female employment, rural living and internet access.

Most Indians "underestimate" how much of their country's wealth is concentrated in the hands of the top 1 per cent, the survey said, adding that the top 1 per cent actually own an "incredible" 70 per cent of all wealth. The survey also found that most Indians "hugely overestimate" the proportions of non-religious people in the country to be 33 per cent when the true figure is under 1 per cent.

While Israel significantly underestimates the proportion of female employment (by 29 percentage points), people in countries like India, Mexico, South Africa and Chile all think of more women in work than really are, it said. India fell in the list of nations which overestimate representation by women in politics. Countries like Columbia, Russia, India and Brazil all think there is better female representation than there really is, the survey said.


Read more: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/india-is-second-most-ignorant-nation-of-the-world-survey-1173478.html

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India is second most ignorant nation of the world: Survey (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2015 OP
Yeah, but on "important" issues, like Java Programming Certification, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #1
When your country has 1.2 billion people BumRushDaShow Dec 2015 #3
:tooLazyToAddSarcasmSmilie: But you even failed that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #5
Note: SKorea & Ireland have good educational systems and great growth prospects in new economies. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #2
The original survey getting old in mke Dec 2015 #4
It does look interesting. Thanks for adding this link. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #6
Would love to know where USA is on that ranking. n/t dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #7
24 out of 28, 28th best. I find that actually kind of Hortensis Dec 2015 #11
Maybe they did not sample from anywhere but the coasts..... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2015 #12
Faux News has been negative-educating people for Hortensis Dec 2015 #16
Amen, FOX/HATE Media is also inciting violence, hate & destroying the country for regular people. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #19
You're not giving Hate Radio enough credit over that same time period. valerief Dec 2015 #20
Agree with you both. Exposure is toxic, I think we now see Hortensis Dec 2015 #27
#24 out of the 33 countries included. #1 had the least accurate self-perception and #33 the most 24601 Dec 2015 #17
Why isnt the headline "Mexico is most ignorant nation of the world"? 7962 Dec 2015 #8
It was published by the Press Trust of India. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #9
I guess "Source: Press Trust of India" should've given me a hint! Argh. 7962 Dec 2015 #10
That thought occurred to me, too, while posting it until I had to look up the source! n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #13
It's ignorant of the survey originators to call it "ignorance" -- it is more accurately "uninformed" JudyM Dec 2015 #14
It has a harsh impact, no doubt about it. "Uninformed" would have been more honest. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #15
How is 'ignorant of the facts' different from 'uninformed'? nt valerief Dec 2015 #21
"India is second most ignorant nation of the world" JudyM Dec 2015 #22
I guess Texas USA must be first then. ananda Dec 2015 #18
Last year's survey results were completely different. sgood Dec 2015 #23
looks like this map mostly asked the wealthier developed countries JI7 Dec 2015 #24
Yes, that's it. nt sgood Dec 2015 #26
You can't only ask 33 countries and expect a representative response XemaSab Dec 2015 #25

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,363 posts)
1. Yeah, but on "important" issues, like Java Programming Certification, ...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 10:54 AM
Dec 2015

... India must not be ignorant at all. They are an outsourcing destination for U.S. companies, and a source of H1B visa workers to fill the void of qualified programmers in the U.S. If only U.S. citizens were't so lazy.

:tooLazyToAddSarcasmSmilie:

BumRushDaShow

(129,383 posts)
3. When your country has 1.2 billion people
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:59 AM
Dec 2015

almost 4x the population of the U.S., a simple 1% of their cream of the crop = 12,000,000 "instantly available" for outsourcing.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. :tooLazyToAddSarcasmSmilie: But you even failed that.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:04 PM
Dec 2015

The "T" in "too" should have been capped. Common mistake, but as they say, garbage in garbage out.

It's a good thing that our politicians want to show us what freedom really means by making more H1B visas FREEly accessible to foreigners living abroad for our taxpaying AMERICAN corporations!!!.

:JestJoking:

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. 24 out of 28, 28th best. I find that actually kind of
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:35 PM
Dec 2015

hard to believe when I remember Trump's amazing success and that people anxious about the Jewish peril estimated America's Jewish population to be something like a third.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. Maybe they did not sample from anywhere but the coasts.....
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dec 2015

I find that hard to believe too
unless everything we think we know about Republican stupidity is wrong.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Faux News has been negative-educating people for
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

two decades now, or as a research study found, its viewers tested less knowledgeable about what's happening than people who watch no news at all. I'm pretty sure we can't be wrong.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
20. You're not giving Hate Radio enough credit over that same time period.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:33 PM
Dec 2015

Lots of people drive to work, and lots drive as part of their job. Daily exposure to hate radio turns their brains to mush.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Agree with you both. Exposure is toxic, I think we now see
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:22 PM
Dec 2015

literally a truly dangerous threat to democracy, and to civilized society.

24601

(3,962 posts)
17. #24 out of the 33 countries included. #1 had the least accurate self-perception and #33 the most
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:35 PM
Dec 2015

accurate. https://www.ipsos-mori.com/_assets/sri/perils/slides/


United States Data

Issue Perception Reality

1. % of wealth owned by top 1% 57% 37%
Compared to Russia 53% 70%
Great Britain 59% 23%

2. % of wealth top 1% should own 27% 37%
Compared to New Zealand 27% 18%
Russia 23% 70%

3. % of population overweight or obese 50% 66%
Compared to India 41% 20%
Saudi Arabia 28% 71%

4. % of population that is not religious 40% 16%
Compared to India 33% 0.1%
South Korea 42% 46%

5. % of population who are immigrants 33% 14%
Compared to Argentina 30% 5%
Saudi Arabia 24% 31%

6. % of young adults (25-24) living with parents 34% 12%
Compared to Great Britain 43% 14%
Hungary 49% 48%

7. Average age in the country 47 38
Compared to Brazil 56 31
Germany 51 47


8. % of population 14 or younger 29% 19%
Compared to Brazil 39% 24%
Israel 23% 28%

9. % of politicians who are women 21% 19%
Compared to Russia 31% 14%
Mexico 26% 42%

10. % of employed working-age women 63% 63%
Compared to India 41% 25%
Israel 39% 68%

11. % of population that lives in rural areas 35% 19%
Compared to Japan 56% 7%
India 55% 68%


12. % of population with internet access at home 76% 87%
Compared to India 60% 19%
Israel 60% 76%


13. Overall ordinal ranking of ignorance 24th

Most ignorant to least

1-5 Mexico, India, Brazil, Peru, New Zealand

6-10 Colombia, Belgium, South Africa, Argentina, Italy

11-15 Russia, Chile, Great Britain, Israel, Australia

16-20 Japan, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Spain

21-25 Norway, France Sweden, United States, China

26-28 Poland, Ireland, South Korea




 

7962

(11,841 posts)
8. Why isnt the headline "Mexico is most ignorant nation of the world"?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:16 PM
Dec 2015

Why does 2nd worst get top billing!

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
14. It's ignorant of the survey originators to call it "ignorance" -- it is more accurately "uninformed"
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:00 PM
Dec 2015

and then, only about certain social issues.

Ignorance is a loaded, pejorative, demeaning term, at least in the US.

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
22. "India is second most ignorant nation of the world"
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:15 PM
Dec 2015

is the actual headline. it's so overbroad as to be not only inaccurate (since "ignorance" is generally a measure of ability to read, education, etc, and even intelligence - see below definition from webster's), but also deceiving (since they are actually measuring knowledge of discrete societal demographics and the like). Had they not made such a blanket pronouncement, it wouldn't be an issue; if they had declared instead, as you suggest, that this population was the most uninformed about particular facts. The implication of general low intelligence is quite damning.

1st definition of ignorant in webster's:
1
a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics>
b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

 

sgood

(85 posts)
23. Last year's survey results were completely different.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:32 PM
Dec 2015


These were the results in last year's survey by the same outfit, Ipsos Mori. The list is completely different. Did the world change that much in a year? Or did the criteria change?

Last year's survey here:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ignorance-index-reveals-most-uninformed-nations-italy-us-south-korea-top-oblivious-list-1472319
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