The police officer did his job and did it well.

they all aren't bad. I've known some really great cops that have helped me out a number of times!

There are a few good apples.

All the cop has is a boatload of suspicions. Did he see the gun? Otherwise, we have a kid running to the gym for a basketball game.

The gangster did have a gun' should the cop have waited until the kid brandished it in the school?

Excerpt: "Mosley said officers had been watching the truck after it left a Wichita home where police were told suspects in a double homicide earlier in the week might be located."

Bold added for emphasis.

Odd they would use a KC dateline....

I miss-read stuff all the time and seems to occur more often as I grow older. Its to the point that I now read lines backward if I think they don't make good sense.

Some miss-reads can be quite humorous, others merely nonsense.

Thanks for the reply.

There was a clear public danger.

The video showed the gun.

1) The cops were tailing the car on suspicion that some of the occupants had committed a violent crime (murder).
2) Occupant fleeing the order to stop.
3) Occupant running toward a venue containing a lot of vulnerable civilians.
4) Occupant carrying a gun, which it is a federal crime to have a school.

is armed and running toward school? If Liberty U's president gets his way, they'll all be armed.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/05/us/liberty-university-urges-armed-students/

all white? Should get the kid glove treatment. But that is my cynicism showing through.

No matter what any angry, she-won't-fuck-me, concealed-carry white freshman does.

If he is late, he is obviously up to no good.

nt

IF it went down as reported. Running towards a school with a gun after being repeatedly told to stop, no problem with deadly force being used.

Though in most cases the target wouldn't be recognized and the age is going to be unknown.

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I sure do hope he wasn't the kid they shoved the gun to and told him to run. At that point he was running away, and scared.

Do you stop and get shot by a racist cop (if you are black, and someone has a gun on you, how do you decide?), or don't run and get shot by your gang?

It takes damn little thought to justify shooting a kid, who may not have even known he was running toward a school, who is carrying a gun. I'm sure everyone can pat that great marksman on the back. How utterly selfless, and brave. My oh my, keepin' us safe he was.

If we put half as much thought into making gangs needless as we do into our little wars this kid would have been doing something else.

“The most monstrous monster is the monster with noble feelings”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky

It's easy to sit back and dissect an event from the comfort of your home hours later, no less inject hypotheticals or desires for altered social police in the discussion.

If the facts are shown to be true as reported, and the police have already released the body camera video and other evidence, a man was running toward a school while armed, the man was already part of a group suspected and followed by police in connection with a double homicide, the man then disobeyed a officers legal warning to immediately stop. Again, absent contrary facts, this would appear to clearly be an appropriate and reasonable use of lethal force.

If you would like to discuss social policy concerning gangs, that would indeed be a worthwhile discussion. However, it is immaterial to this shooting. Not only did the officer or police generally have no control over such policies, it has no bearing on whether this particular suspect presented a reasonable threat of sufficiently serious danger to warrant the use of lethal force.

The Wichita Police Department says the suspect was shot two times by an officer. He was taken to St. Francis Hospital in critical but stable condition.

No one died... At least as of the latest reports that I have seen.

The kid was registered at the school, so if he didn't know where he was going he had the worst sense of direction ever...

If what has been released is true, this was a justifiable shooting, that resulted in a wounded suspect. There have been way too many unjustifiable shootings, but this doesn't look like one of them.

And he might have thought the school was the gun range, and he wanted to get in some practice for tomorrow's competition before the place closed for the night?

The cop should have recognized that fact and been more respectful and less shooty.

Dead or not, gang or not, there was no need.

Thank you.

is to figure out how to give people something to do instead of running around with guns, maybe learn to respect them so they don't feel like they have to carry guns around all the time.

I try to look at a bigger picture than just that provided by the tv screen. Imo it's a failure to wait until someone has decide whether to pull the trigger to decide what is the "correct action". ymmv.

Wait until they kill a few students first, just to make sure the person is a legitimate threat?

Your claim that he didn't know he was running to the school gets shot down by the very article you didn't read - Guess what, he was a registered student at the school.

haven't got a google map to consult in their heads.

They are just looking for the next open door. You could put them inside the school and ask later, they won't even know. They are looking for a hole to ditch the gun and a place to run.

Btw - you don't have a fucking clue as to what I read or not.

Your lack of experience shows. Which means I won't need to read anything else you post. bye.

No chance what-so ever that a scared and armed individual might decide to try taking hostages, or even try shooting the gun in the school... Right?

Listen, they've put out the bodycam (this is why they are great for good cops) footage.

No court, no law enforcement department, no parent with a kid at the school, no jury and no legislator is going to feel that the risks here are balanced toward letting the kid run into the school with what appeared to be a weapon.

Sorry, there's been some very sad history.

Now it may well be that that older members gave the gun to the kid and told him to hide to save themselves, but that still doesn't change the choice the LEO faces.