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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:02 PM Dec 2015

Report: Hillary Clinton intervened for a St. Petersburg firm after request to son-in-law

Source: Tampa Bay Times, Associated Press

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton intervened in a request forwarded by her son-in-law on behalf of a deep-sea mining firm to meet with her or other State Department officials, according to the recently released Clinton emails.

One of the firm's investors had asked Clinton's son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky, who is married to Chelsea Clinton, for help setting up such contacts, the emails show.

The lobbying effort on behalf of Neptune Minerals Inc. came while Hillary Clinton - now the leading Democratic presidential candidate - was advocating for an Obama administration push for Senate approval of a sweeping Law of the Sea Treaty. The pact would have aided U.S. mining companies scouring for minerals in international waters, but the Republican-dominated Senate blocked it.

Clinton ordered a senior State Department official in August 2012 to look into the request. Her action came three months after an investor in the mining firm emailed Mezvinsky, a partner in Eaglevale Partners LP, a New York hedge fund, asking for his help in setting up State Department contacts.

Read more: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/report-hillary-clinton-intervened-for-a-st-petersburg-firm-after-request/2257056

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Report: Hillary Clinton intervened for a St. Petersburg firm after request to son-in-law (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 OP
... peacebird Dec 2015 #1
Friends of Hillary.... ViseGrip Dec 2015 #2
Par for the course. sgood Dec 2015 #3
Oh yeah. The Clinton Foundation is a petri dish of potential scandal... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #7
There is so much of this baggage... sgood Dec 2015 #24
Seems to be irrelevant. merrily Dec 2015 #34
What can you say? Hillary plays the game. Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #4
A lot of people feel the same way as you do. sgood Dec 2015 #25
Pay for play? She'll fit right in with the 'good ole boys' network. jalan48 Dec 2015 #5
Me thinks there's some fans of Discussionist on this thread... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #6
. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #15
Yes just totally ignore the issue at hand. coyote Dec 2015 #17
What issue at hand? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #18
QUID PRO QUO Divernan Dec 2015 #20
Proof? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #23
Read the rest of the ibtimes piece, and tell me that there's nothing there. sgood Dec 2015 #26
there's nothing there... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #27
:) sgood Dec 2015 #29
Oh man oh man! coyote Dec 2015 #21
Enviroment ......................? turbinetree Dec 2015 #8
"Hey, bud . . . need a contact in Hillary's office." Divernan Dec 2015 #9
Why do we have GD-P when LBN can be used for our primary battles? n/t pampango Dec 2015 #10
Are you suggesting the need for an LBN-P Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #16
Quite the opposite. I'm glad we have a GD-P for posts for and against Democratic candidates. pampango Dec 2015 #19
Is it breaking news or not? Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #22
Is the primary intent to inform or to bash a Democratic candidate? pampango Dec 2015 #30
To inform, darkangel218 Dec 2015 #36
So we are bashing Hillary in LBN, rather than in GD-P, because republicans will bash her? pampango Dec 2015 #39
You might see it as bashing others see it as news...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #41
I believe very few see it as just 'news' and not more suited to GD-P. LBN has no guidelines pampango Dec 2015 #42
Yeah breaking news is just that....nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #43
LBN has strict time criteria. GD P does not. But, you knew that. merrily Dec 2015 #35
Just curious Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #44
Of course, since that would be 'news' about the Democratic presidential primary which pampango Dec 2015 #47
There will be hell to pay for the Clinton staffer who did not delete this email Divernan Dec 2015 #11
She's no different than most of the other politicians, regardless of party Android3.14 Dec 2015 #12
Well, that gives us an idea of what she would do Duval Dec 2015 #13
Can the Clintons with their corruption, and nepotism, and scandal...please just GO THE FUCK AWAY? AzDar Dec 2015 #14
Nope.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #28
Yep. sgood Dec 2015 #31
She has over 90% odds... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #32
Did you pull that out of your, uh, imagination? sgood Dec 2015 #37
Not unless the Microsoft Research Scientists VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #38
Ah yes, if you can't trust Microsoft, the people who brought you the Zune, to have their fingers hughee99 Dec 2015 #45
Yeah and I am going to take YOUR prediction over theirs! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #49
Why listen to me, when you can listen to your own source hughee99 Dec 2015 #50
why on earth would I listen to you versus professionals? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #52
Professional what? hughee99 Dec 2015 #53
professional statisticians.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #54
Yawn philosslayer Dec 2015 #33
And another Hillary gate elmac Dec 2015 #40
Mr. Mezvinsky worked at Goldman Sachs for eight years NYTimes Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #46
Serious question: isn't this illegal? fbc Dec 2015 #48
Curious Bernin Dec 2015 #51
 

sgood

(85 posts)
3. Par for the course.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

There are many more examples yet to come.

Under Clinton's leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. That figure -- derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012) -- represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

The Clinton-led State Department also authorized $151 billion of separate Pentagon-brokered deals for 16 of the countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation, resulting in a 143 percent increase in completed sales to those nations over the same time frame during the Bush administration. These extra sales were part of a broad increase in American military exports that accompanied Obama’s arrival in the White House. The 143 percent increase in U.S. arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors compares to an 80 percent increase in such sales to all countries over the same time period.

American defense contractors also donated to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and in some cases made personal payments to Bill Clinton for speaking engagements. Such firms and their subsidiaries were listed as contractors in $163 billion worth of Pentagon-negotiated deals that were authorized by the Clinton State Department between 2009 and 2012.


http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
7. Oh yeah. The Clinton Foundation is a petri dish of potential scandal...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:49 PM
Dec 2015

When the press begins to dig into the Clinton Foundation, it will be revealed for the pay-to-play joke that it is.

Boeing gave The Clinton Foundation 900k, after Hillary personally spearheaded a multi-million dollar deal to sell fighter jets to Saudi Arabia.

Hillary Clinton may be vetted. But The Clinton Foundation has not.

It will be a bloodbath.

Say hello to President Trump. She'll be doing nothing but defending deal after deal after deal...and everyone will know that she is lying.

Ugh.

 

sgood

(85 posts)
24. There is so much of this baggage...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:29 PM
Dec 2015

...that I wonder how so many Dems can continue to be so supportive of her. The potential scandals could ruin the Party's chances in 2016.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
34. Seems to be irrelevant.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:54 PM
Dec 2015


Apparently, they'd rather risk losing with Hillary than back Sanders or O'Malley.
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
4. What can you say? Hillary plays the game.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:12 PM
Dec 2015

Almost all of them do. Almost. I will vote for her is she's the nominee, but not with any confidence that she can win, or with any confidence that she will help to make the lives of the 99% better.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
17. Yes just totally ignore the issue at hand.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:52 PM
Dec 2015

Just stick in your fingers your ears and scream "LALAALALALAALALALA! I can't hear you"

I expect no less from Clinton supporters on this site.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. "Hey, bud . . . need a contact in Hillary's office."
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:56 PM
Dec 2015

The whole group involved in this are a nest of Goldman-Sachs and Morgan Stanley vipers. Siklas and his "bud", Mezvinsky were Goldman-Sachs "buds" and the state dept. guy Clinton told to act on the request is now, courtesy of the old revolving door, a hot shot at Morgan Stanley. Siklas, then registered as a stockbroker at Goldman Sachs in New York, had contributed $2,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2008 unsuccessful presidential bid. The old quid pro quo comes pretty cheap, eh? Just $2,000 - why that's less than the $2700 all the "guests" at Bill and Hill's fundraisers have to each pony up for single photo taken with the it's-my-turn and I'm-a-woman candidate, or Bill.

And don't you just love all the respect shown to Mrs. Clinton & the office of SOS, when he refers to her as "Hillary"?

More from the OP link:


"Hey bud," Siklas wrote, telling Mezvinsky that Neptune was pursuing sea-floor massive sulfide (SMS) mining in the South Pacific and had just bought out two other mining firms. Siklas said that he and Adam needed "a contact in Hillary's office: someone my friend Josh (and I perhaps) can reach out via email or phone to discuss SMS mining and the current legal issues and regulations."

Federal ethics guidelines warn government employees to "not give preferential treatment to any private organization or individual," but there are no specific provisions prohibiting officials from considering requests prompted by relatives.

Clinton's willingness to intercede as a result of her son-in-law's involvement is the latest example of how the Clinton family's interests cut across intersecting spheres of influence in American politics, commerce and charity.

A lawyer for an environmental group opposing deep-sea mining said Clinton's action was "cause for concern that the State Department might take any action that could encourage such activity." Emily Jeffers, an attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity, a group opposing deep-sea mining, filed suit against Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration last May, accusing the agencies of failing to conduct comprehensive environmental tests before licensing Lockheed Martin Corp. to mine for minerals in U.S. territorial waters in the Pacific Ocean.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
16. Are you suggesting the need for an LBN-P
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:51 PM
Dec 2015

Sorry this news makes you uncomfortable. I'm sure the LBN hosts will figure out whats appropriate.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. Quite the opposite. I'm glad we have a GD-P for posts for and against Democratic candidates.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:03 PM
Dec 2015
Sorry this news makes you uncomfortable.

As a Bernie supporter, the 'news' does not make me uncomfortable. Not sure why you would assume that it did.

I don't come to LBN to see Hillary or Bernie get bashed. That's why GD-P exists.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
30. Is the primary intent to inform or to bash a Democratic candidate?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:41 PM
Dec 2015

That should be the benchmark.

I understand that posters who want to praise their candidate or criticize another candidate do not want to be confined to GD-P (which is often an avoidable cesspool). They look for 'breaking news' (any 'breaking news') so they can post their praise/criticism outside of GD-P To bring the intra-party divisions to LBN may be fine according to the PTB, but I find it disappointing. Just my opinion. One I am sure that will change nothing on how LBN operates.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
36. To inform,
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

Because these revelations won't go away if she wins the Primary. It would only get worse.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
39. So we are bashing Hillary in LBN, rather than in GD-P, because republicans will bash her?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:08 PM
Dec 2015

I have no problem with bashing or praising Hillary or Bernie in GD-P. That what it was set up for. To bring that to LBN seems to defeat the purpose of the distinction between LBN and GD-P. Just my opinion - which will change nothing.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
42. I believe very few see it as just 'news' and not more suited to GD-P. LBN has no guidelines
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

like those in GD:

Threads about the Democratic presidential primaries are not permitted and must be posted in the General Discussion: Primaries forum.

So the bashing and promoting of candidates in the Democratic presidential primary in LBN can go on as long as a "news" angle can be figured out.

Perhaps those who want to be spared the "news" on Hillary and Bernie can spend less time in LBN and more in GD where that kind of posting is not allowed. We can even post actual real news about events in the world and our country not directly related to the Democratic presidential primary.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
44. Just curious
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

if you also object to BREAKING NEWS POLLS when Hillary Clinton is shown ahead in one poll or another. There's at least 3 or 4 a week in LBN.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
47. Of course, since that would be 'news' about the Democratic presidential primary which
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:59 PM
Dec 2015

is what GD-P was set up for.

I don't think most people come to LBN for news about our presidential primary but LBN rules allow it so I don't expect anything to change.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
11. There will be hell to pay for the Clinton staffer who did not delete this email
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:13 PM
Dec 2015

Recall how HRC claimed she only deleted emails which were personal, i.e, involved family, etc. Well this one involves her hedge-fund owning son-in-law, and his favor seeking buddy.

And there are thousands of those emails yet to be released over the coming months.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
12. She's no different than most of the other politicians, regardless of party
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

If we are going to see a change, the logical winning strategy is to vote for Sanders in the primary.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
13. Well, that gives us an idea of what she would do
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:18 PM
Dec 2015

as President to protect Wall Street. She is a quid-pro-quo politician.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
14. Can the Clintons with their corruption, and nepotism, and scandal...please just GO THE FUCK AWAY?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015


UGH.
 

sgood

(85 posts)
31. Yep.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:44 PM
Dec 2015

And don't be so sure about her inevitable victory. She has a potential criminal problem. That means she is walking on very thin ice. Any minute, there could be a debacle.




hughee99

(16,113 posts)
45. Ah yes, if you can't trust Microsoft, the people who brought you the Zune, to have their fingers
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015

on the pulse of America, who can you trust?

this is from their Q & A

Q: What makes you think you are good at predicting things?
A: We don't. In fact, we don't think any individual is better at predicting things than a diverse crowd of people. Rather than try to be experts that attempt to do better than the "wisdom of crowds," we try to find and aggregate that crowd wisdom.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
49. Yeah and I am going to take YOUR prediction over theirs!
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015



Do you know what statistics a probability are?


How many polls have YOU seen lately that puts Sanders ahead?

Who do you have on Monday Night's football game? Do you just go by which one has the prettiest jersey?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
50. Why listen to me, when you can listen to your own source
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:35 PM
Dec 2015

Basically, it's an aggregation of gambling and market data, with a little bit of polling aggregation thrown in. Much of it is based on the opinion of the sort of people who actually BET on these sort of things, which is hardly a well rounded sample.

Is Hillary in the lead by a good bit? I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that isn't true. Does she have a 90% chance of being president? I don't think even Microsoft Research scientists have any idea how accurate that might be.

Saying you trust them more than me isn't the same as saying their information can actually be trusted.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
52. why on earth would I listen to you versus professionals?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:48 PM
Dec 2015

She has a 93% chance of beating Sanders!

Democrats have a 58% to Republicans 42% chance of winning the GE.

This is what happens when you are professional at statistics.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
53. Professional what?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

They aggregated statistics from (mostly) betting sites, which hasn't been demonstrated to be an accurate predictor of the outcome 8-11 months away from the actual decision. It is, at BEST a mildly educated guess.

If it makes you feel any better, I think Sanders has ZERO chance of winning the primary.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
54. professional statisticians....
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:06 PM
Dec 2015

PredictWise is a research project which includes members of Microsoft Research, but should in no way be construed as representing the views or predictions of Microsoft or any of its entities.

and no....Sanders has a 6% chance of winning....Like I said....I will stick with the professionals.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
33. Yawn
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:49 PM
Dec 2015

Another day, another so-called "scandal". Haters gotta hate though; its really all they have at this point!

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
40. And another Hillary gate
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:11 PM
Dec 2015

Most are made up, many are overblown, she always lands on her feet. Been a Bernie supporter for many years and believe he would be the best choice for president. Don't think the country is ready for what's best for them so we will settle for second best, go through more misery, income inequality, more monopolies, fewer jobs. Someday, Americans will smarten up and throw out the corporate puppets and elect a true progressive. I will support any Dem who wins the primary, doing less would be suicidal.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
46. Mr. Mezvinsky worked at Goldman Sachs for eight years NYTimes
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:58 PM
Dec 2015

background on his company

When Mr. Mezvinsky and his partners began raising money in 2011 for a new hedge fund firm, Eaglevale Partners, a number of investors in the firm were longtime supporters of the Clintons, according to interviews and financial documents reviewed by The New York Times. Tens of millions of dollars raised by Eaglevale can be attributed to investors with some relationship or link to the Clintons.



Mr. Mezvinsky worked at Goldman Sachs for eight years before moving to a private equity firm. He is widely credited with spearheading Eaglevale’s big bullish bet on Greek bank stocks and Greek debt. Unfortunately for investors in Eaglevale — named after a bridge in Central Park — that trade has largely resulted in disappointing returns.



When Mr. Mezvinsky and his partners began raising money in 2011 for a new hedge fund firm, Eaglevale Partners, a number of investors in the firm were longtime supporters of the Clintons, according to interviews and financial documents reviewed by The New York Times. Tens of millions of dollars raised by Eaglevale can be attributed to investors with some relationship or link to the Clintons.


The investors include hedge fund managers like Marc Lasry and James Leitner; an overseas money management firm connected to the Rothschild family; and people from Goldman Sachs, including the chief executive, Lloyd C. Blankfein.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/business/dealbook/for-clintons-a-hedge-fund-in-the-family.html


Chelsea Clinton's Husband Suffers Massive Hedge Fund Loss On Greek Investment

Despite having Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein as an investor and being Bill and Hillary Clinton's son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky (and two former colleagues from Goldman Sachs who manage Eaglevale Partners hedge fund) told investors in a letter sent last week they had been "incorrect" on Greece, helping produce losses for the firm’s main fund during two of the past three years. By 'incorrect' Chelsea Clinton's husband means the Eaglevale fund focused on Greece lost a stunning 48% last year and, as The Wall Street Journal reports, is impacting the overall returns of the roughly $400 million fund which has spent 27 of its 34 months in operation below its "high-water mark."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-03/chelsea-clintons-husband-suffers-massive-hedge-fund-loss-greek-investment


Gee ............ nothing going on here, move along, nothing to see here.


 

Bernin

(311 posts)
51. Curious
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

I have been a registered Democrat for 26 years now.
Have voted straight party ticket every election but 1. And, that was for a commissioner's seat and the D was a known crook.
I will not vote for her.
My wife and mother and wife's mother are all very feminist, registered Democrats that have been that way they're entire lives.
They will not vote for her.

So, I'm really curious as to who her base is?

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