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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 05:56 PM Dec 2015

Falwell: Liberty University to allow guns in dorms

Source: Lynchburg News & Advance

Posted: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:28 pm
By Tobi Walsh and Eleanor Roy
Contact Tobi Walsh at (434) 385-5530 or twalsh@newsadvance.com

Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. said Wednesday the university will overturn its policy prohibiting concealed firearms in residence halls.

The school’s current weapons policy allows students, faculty and staff with concealed-carry permits and approval from the Liberty University Police Department to carry concealed guns on campus, except in dorms.

The decision to eliminate these “weapon-free” zones came after Falwell urged eligible students to get their concealed-carry permits during Friday’s convocation.

The school’s executive board supports the decision unanimously, Falwell said in a phone interview, though it hasn't voted on it.

This has been a breaking news update.

Read more: http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/falwell-liberty-university-to-allow-guns-in-dorms/article_6e29bcd6-9eb3-11e5-b613-d32e81240352.html

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Falwell: Liberty University to allow guns in dorms (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 OP
Think it will be a year before the first accidental discharge? Of a weapon? n/t jtuck004 Dec 2015 #1
Private school. Private rules. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #51
Waiting for someone to shoot their ass off from carrying the gun in their hip pocket as yellowcanine Dec 2015 #62
I can't wait... JustADumbFireman Dec 2015 #2
My FIRST thought when I saw this post Bigmack Dec 2015 #8
Thank you for the compliment... JustADumbFireman Dec 2015 #9
Can we Amazon "one click" them extra ammo. We are gonna need a lot of Darwin Awards... winstars Dec 2015 #13
Why do you think that? TeddyR Dec 2015 #103
Can I say "Amen" to that? Loki Dec 2015 #93
They are going to have to invest in gun lockers exboyfil Dec 2015 #3
But why invest in lockers if you are carrying your weapon(s) all the time? erronis Dec 2015 #16
what about people who don't feel safe seeing assholes walking around with guns? Skittles Dec 2015 #24
Laboratory exboyfil Dec 2015 #30
so it's a school for gun humping cowards? Skittles Dec 2015 #46
Yes. daleanime Dec 2015 #54
Perhaps that is painting with a broad brush. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #90
I am a military veteran Skittles Dec 2015 #99
How is anyone going to see them walking around with firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #57
Why limit to 18-21 year olds. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #95
Sounds good to me exboyfil Dec 2015 #101
oy Jerry olddots Dec 2015 #4
Most Colleges and Universities houston16revival Dec 2015 #5
Well, most likely only not the alcohol. longship Dec 2015 #79
Only a matter of time tabasco Dec 2015 #6
I can't wait. JustADumbFireman Dec 2015 #10
You can't wait? Why would you be excited that someone potentially could harm? yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #52
Because it's "them" the ones that deserve harm. ileus Dec 2015 #56
Get help tabasco Dec 2015 #69
And you claim to be a fireman? GGJohn Dec 2015 #70
It's all part of God's Will. No Regrets! erronis Dec 2015 #17
Since Stupid outweighs Psychotic in the Great Human Periodic Table . . . hatrack Dec 2015 #35
What makes you think they'll regret this? GGJohn Dec 2015 #58
If many colleges allow for it. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #96
Due to the miracle of Google, one can find sites with that information. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #97
All state colleges in CO allow for concealed carry GGJohn Dec 2015 #98
What could possibly go wrong???? yardwork Dec 2015 #7
Most traditional students will still be prohibited at the state level. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #11
Right. And the same under-21's also have fake IDs to buy booze. erronis Dec 2015 #18
I haven't heard of a fake CC license, I wonder what the penalty for that would be SpookyDem Dec 2015 #28
I think the implication was..... daleanime Dec 2015 #55
Illegally carrying guns will happen regardless of the law hack89 Dec 2015 #81
In other words, they can do this by subterfuge, law or no? Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #102
If you visit LibU campus, carry a New Testament in your left breast pocket. /s/nt NCjack Dec 2015 #12
One with a Kevlar cover jmowreader Dec 2015 #39
That's gonna give a whole new meaning to the come to Jesus moment. tanyev Dec 2015 #14
Or Worse ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #31
What could go wrong with that? valerief Dec 2015 #15
Has Falwell and Liberty upped their liability insurance? Thor_MN Dec 2015 #19
Well, they're probably right. Turbineguy Dec 2015 #20
Until an argument gets out of hand IronLionZion Dec 2015 #21
What could go wrong? 6000eliot Dec 2015 #22
Social experiment. JudyM Dec 2015 #23
Why is this a social experiment? GGJohn Dec 2015 #59
They've always been able to carry guns. sofa king Dec 2015 #25
... petronius Dec 2015 #27
But no sex. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #26
My very first thought as well. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #38
Hello, higher suicide rate shenmue Dec 2015 #29
Ain't happened at other college's that allow for concealed carry, GGJohn Dec 2015 #61
Wow. What could possibly go wrong with that? nt leftyladyfrommo Dec 2015 #32
One of the pithier comments...... yellowcanine Dec 2015 #33
Stupid BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #34
We were allowed to have deer rifles in our dorm rooms hollowdweller Dec 2015 #36
Lots more opportunities for accidents with semi-automatic handguns than hunting rifles and knives. Nitram Dec 2015 #41
Fucking great, now we'll have to hear about killings on this campus lark Dec 2015 #37
So do tell us why this hasn't happened at other campuses that allow for concealed carry? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author lark Dec 2015 #66
I wonder how many accidents it will take before they restore the prohibition. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #40
Not that she would have gone there anyhow Dorian Gray Dec 2015 #42
I've stayed in some dorms that had some pretty shady residents Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #48
Egad! Dorian Gray Dec 2015 #49
I know Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #43
Because..... protection. Initech Dec 2015 #44
Sooner than later the shit will hit the fan kacekwl Dec 2015 #45
I wonder if they allow condoms? alfredo Dec 2015 #47
A condom on a gun would not do any good. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #60
Ha! alfredo Dec 2015 #65
DUZY! eom NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #67
While they're at it........ DFW Dec 2015 #53
How many accidental discharges are there really? Non injury are not reported vinny9698 Dec 2015 #64
Especially when the campus police will be the only ones to investigate. LiberalFighter Dec 2015 #92
Drunk teenage fundies with guns in dorms, that ought to be a hoot Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #68
Let's see: sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #71
Onward, Christian Soldiers! LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2015 #72
Too late jetroy Dec 2015 #73
Welcome to DU. Thank you for writing. NT ("NT" means I have no commentary to add.) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #74
Won't be long for the first "accidental" shooting. louis-t Dec 2015 #75
This is a headline waiting to be written liberal N proud Dec 2015 #76
What could go wrong with that? nt longship Dec 2015 #77
Hopefully they will all accidentally shoot each other. nruthie Dec 2015 #78
Hoping for something like this is a progressive value? Marengo Dec 2015 #94
So you hope TeddyR Dec 2015 #104
what could possibly go wrong? mike_c Dec 2015 #80
You know how people are always saying the "gun nuts" want (or at least don't care about) more hughee99 Dec 2015 #82
So a bit of background TeddyR Dec 2015 #83
A note to you "Only a matter of time."/"What could go wrong?" types. Paladin Dec 2015 #84
"will overturn its policy prohibiting concealed firearms in residence halls" keithbvadu2 Dec 2015 #85
So, what happens to the tuition pre-paid for the semester and/or the FASFA loans/grants? haele Dec 2015 #86
Fine by me. MynameisBlarney Dec 2015 #87
two different ways to ultimately close this brain-washing, festering sinkhole ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #88
This will be an interesting and tragic experiment MariaThinks Dec 2015 #89
Scary Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #91
Of Course Waitsman Dec 2015 #100
I Completely Support This Decision by Liberty "U" Hal Bent Dec 2015 #105
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! KamaAina Dec 2015 #106
why doesn't the school just require machine guns be strapped across everyone's back mdbl Dec 2015 #107

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
62. Waiting for someone to shoot their ass off from carrying the gun in their hip pocket as
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:42 AM
Dec 2015

their Dear Leader does.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
8. My FIRST thought when I saw this post
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

was to follow it up with a post about how we'll soon see Nature culling the herd at Liberty University! Great minds run in the same circles, i guess... Ms Bigmack

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
103. Why do you think that?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:35 PM
Dec 2015

Concealed carry is permitted at many schools and I'm not aware of people shooting each other? And why do you want to supply ammunition to people with guns?

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. They are going to have to invest in gun lockers
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:04 PM
Dec 2015

I understand this is already happening on other campuses.

I consider Liberty University to be a laboratory.

I think they should drop their restriction on open carry though. 18-21 year olds also have the right to feel safe.

erronis

(15,328 posts)
16. But why invest in lockers if you are carrying your weapon(s) all the time?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:57 PM
Dec 2015

And you know that pubescent (and post- ones) like to have their weapons ready, just in case.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
24. what about people who don't feel safe seeing assholes walking around with guns?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:24 AM
Dec 2015

this is utter BULLSHIT

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
30. Laboratory
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:26 AM
Dec 2015

Not a state school. Not a school any person of a liberal persuasion would attend unless it was to observe the fundies in their natural habitat.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
90. Perhaps that is painting with a broad brush.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:07 PM
Dec 2015
Liberty University Student Veterans Association (SVA)

Who Can Join?

The Student Veterans Association is open to student veterans who have served honorably in the U.S. Armed Services. Faculty and staff members of Liberty University who are veterans are encouraged to get involved in the group as well. Veterans will be requested to present a DD-214 in order to protect against stolen valor.


Best wishes.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
99. I am a military veteran
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:17 PM
Dec 2015

and I think people who feel the need to carry everywhere are paranoid gun humpers

Best wishes

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
57. How is anyone going to see them walking around with firearms?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

They'll be concealed, not open carry.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
95. Why limit to 18-21 year olds.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

Doesn't EVERYONE have the right to feel safe?
I think we should set no limit on the minimum age for open carry, because if they set an age limit, the younger ones will want what the older ones have, and do whatever they can to get it.
And why is this limited to hand guns? We have the right to bear ARMS. I should be able to have a shoulder mounted missile launcher with nuclear grenades in my locker there! After all, they are arms too.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
5. Most Colleges and Universities
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

I would be concerned about the mix of guns and alcohol, drugs, adolescent hormones, jealousies,
love triangles and breakups.

Here we have guns and God, and not much of the rest if they are as pure as reported to be.

Should be interesting.

One previous post called it a laboratory?

Yes. Exactly.

longship

(40,416 posts)
79. Well, most likely only not the alcohol.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:09 PM
Dec 2015

The rest of what you mention they'll have.

However, no hand holding on campus. So they'll take their boinking to the local motels, which undoubtedly do a bang up business (so to speak).


ileus

(15,396 posts)
56. Because it's "them" the ones that deserve harm.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

people love to hate......I suppose it's progressive, but I have my doubts.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
35. Since Stupid outweighs Psychotic in the Great Human Periodic Table . . .
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

"I didn't think it was loaded!"

"I was putting it back in the drawer and I just dropped it!"

"I was practicing my quick-draw in the mirror!"

"I was cleaning my gun . . . "

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
58. What makes you think they'll regret this?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:36 AM
Dec 2015

Many college campuses allow for concealed carry, so far, no negligent discharges, what makes this any different?

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
97. Due to the miracle of Google, one can find sites with that information.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015
Google "colleges that permit concealed carry."

I'm choosing a site that appears nonpartisan.

Guns on Campus: Overview

10/5/2015

....
Concealed Carry Weapon Laws and College Campuses

All 50 states allow citizens to carry concealed weapons if they meet certain state requirements. Currently, there are 19 states that ban carrying a concealed weapon on a college campus: California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Wyoming.

In 23 states the decision to ban or allow concealed carry weapons on campuses is made by each college or university individually: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia.

Because of recent state legislation and court rulings, eight states now have provisions allowing the carrying of concealed weapons on public postsecondary campuses. These states are Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin. During the 2015 legislative session, Texas' legislature passed a bill permitting concealed weapons on campus and making it the eighth state to permit guns on campus. The legislation will take effect in August 2016.

Utah remains the only state to have statute specifically naming public colleges and universities as public entities that do not have the authority to ban concealed carry, and thus, all 10 public institutions in Utah allow concealed weapons on their property. Recently passed Kansas legislation creates a provision that colleges and universities cannot prohibit concealed carry unless a building has "adequate security measures." Governing boards of the institutions, however, may still request an exemption to prohibit for up to four years. Wisconsin legislation creates a provision that colleges and universities must allow concealed carry on campus grounds. Campuses can, however, prohibit weapons from campus buildings if signs are posted at every entrance explicitly stating that weapons are prohibited. All University of Wisconsin system campuses and technical community college districts are said to be putting this signage in place. Legislation passed in Mississippi in 2011 creates an exception to allow concealed carry on college campuses for those who have taken a voluntary course on safe handling and use of firearms by a certified instructor.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
11. Most traditional students will still be prohibited at the state level.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 06:22 PM
Dec 2015

You need to be 21 in most states for concealed carry.
This will prohibit all but half of the senior class for traditional students.

erronis

(15,328 posts)
18. Right. And the same under-21's also have fake IDs to buy booze.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:01 PM
Dec 2015

To say nothing about <ahem> non-background exchanges between friends.

Do you think the campus police will be able to frisk every coed that might be carrying? The schools can't afford to pay their instructors enough to live on - will they spend money on men-in-blue with questionable abilities?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
55. I think the implication was.....
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:22 AM
Dec 2015

that the students would carry with out license. But I could be wrong.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
19. Has Falwell and Liberty upped their liability insurance?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:32 PM
Dec 2015

Because I'd bet they have to pay out before this year's Freshman class graduates.

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
23. Social experiment.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015

I'd be happy to sit back and watch except that it's kids, don't want em to get hurt. But still...

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
59. Why is this a social experiment?
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

There are already many college campuses that allow for concealed carry, so far, nothing.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
25. They've always been able to carry guns.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:31 AM
Dec 2015

It's just that previously, carrying a weapon with a concealed carry permit on campus also came with the added bonus of potential expulsion from Liberty U.

Now that there is no incentive, I expect fewer students to carry weapons at Liberty.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
61. Ain't happened at other college's that allow for concealed carry,
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

what makes you think this will be any different?

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
33. One of the pithier comments......
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:41 AM
Dec 2015
With a pistol in his hip pocket, Jerry Falwell Jr. is a lot more likely to blow his own butt off than he is to halt a would-be terrorist.
 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
36. We were allowed to have deer rifles in our dorm rooms
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:53 PM
Dec 2015

When I was in college. Everybody hunted. It was a rural area.

Now I can't imagine the shit you'd get into most places.

I used to wear a Buck 110 knife to high school. Tons of people wore knives. There was never a stabbing.

I'd seen people roll around fighting on the ground, both wearing a knife, never thinking to pull it.

After the gun industry going from hunting to zombie apocalypse and self defense and after years of foreign policy and politics where violence is often put forward as a solution to complicated problems we have become more violent/

Nitram

(22,869 posts)
41. Lots more opportunities for accidents with semi-automatic handguns than hunting rifles and knives.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dec 2015

Particularly if you carry with one in the chamber for good luck.

lark

(23,155 posts)
37. Fucking great, now we'll have to hear about killings on this campus
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015

and probably on a regular basis. After all, fear and stand your ground are a big part of these' folks' every day lives. This won't end well at all. How stupid they are. Yeah, save yourselves from gun violence by greatly increasing the # of guns is such an ignorant and counter-productive choice.

Response to GGJohn (Reply #63)

Dorian Gray

(13,499 posts)
42. Not that she would have gone there anyhow
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:11 PM
Dec 2015

but no way would I allow my daughter to go to a university that allows guns in the dorms. UGH!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
48. I've stayed in some dorms that had some pretty shady residents
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

One roommate was always complaining because he couldn't have his gun on campus. I got out of that room the first chance I got.

Dorian Gray

(13,499 posts)
49. Egad!
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 07:08 AM
Dec 2015

What a nightmare.

Dorm behavior isn't always the best, but add guns to the mix.... just, no way!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
50. I know
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:06 AM
Dec 2015

There's no way I would have wanted to live in a dorm where guns were permitted-- no freakin' way.

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
45. Sooner than later the shit will hit the fan
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:19 PM
Dec 2015

when these college kids pull out their penises hmmmm I mean guns to show each other . Accidents happen.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
60. A condom on a gun would not do any good.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

The bullet would go right through it. And it would look stupid.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
53. While they're at it........
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 09:15 AM
Dec 2015

They should have gun racks with loaded semi-automatics and AK-47s in the showers in case the Taliban decides to invade Liberty University while the "students" are washing up.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
64. How many accidental discharges are there really? Non injury are not reported
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 12:31 PM
Dec 2015

Think of the times there have been accidental discharges, when no one is hurt.
Those are not reported, only material damage.

72. Onward, Christian Soldiers!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 01:08 PM
Dec 2015

Is the school going to open a shooting range in the Student Union? I wonder what they'll use as targets?



Jerry Falwell Jr.: ‘If more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those’ Islamist terrorists

Ew-w-w-w!

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
75. Won't be long for the first "accidental" shooting.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:49 PM
Dec 2015

Someone "cleaning, fooling around with, dropping, didn't know it was loaded" etc.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
82. You know how people are always saying the "gun nuts" want (or at least don't care about) more
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:49 PM
Dec 2015

gun accidents, violence and death? After reading many of the comments in this thread, apparently it's not just them.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
83. So a bit of background
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:50 PM
Dec 2015

You have to be 21 to obtain a concealed carry license in Virginia, meaning anyone at Liberty under 21 is not allowed to carry. An applicant also has to "demonstrate competence with a handgun" and can do so by submitting proof of attendance at one of several different handgun safety courses (Liberty offers a qualifying course free of charge). Finally, there is a lengthy list of factors that disqualify someone from obtaining a concealed carry license, such as addiction, conviction for public drunkenness, felony convictions, etc. The requirements for obtaining a CC license in Virginia can be found here - http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_ResidentConcealed.shtm.

And on edit, Liberty already allows concealed carry in most areas on campus without any shootings that I'm aware of and is simply expanding the rule to include dorms.

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
84. A note to you "Only a matter of time."/"What could go wrong?" types.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:09 PM
Dec 2015

You need to understand that the modern-day gun rights movement doesn't give a flying fuck about violence involving guns. These people view incidents like the Sandy Hook school massacre as a more-than-reasonable tradeoff for their access to firearms, and the right-wing interpretation of the Second Amendment which facilitates that access. So if in a week, a month, or a year, some lunatic mows down a bunch of students and instructors at dear old Liberty U., don't expect any of the pro-gun types (including the ones who hang around DU) to care about it---beyond the usual "gun-free zones" insults. They like the way things are. They're enjoying themselves. When you resort to the "Only a matter of time."/"What could go wrong?" warnings, rest assured that the gun enthusiasts are laughing at you.

keithbvadu2

(36,892 posts)
85. "will overturn its policy prohibiting concealed firearms in residence halls"
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:39 PM
Dec 2015

"will overturn its policy prohibiting concealed firearms in residence halls"

Why did they have that policy to begin with?

haele

(12,676 posts)
86. So, what happens to the tuition pre-paid for the semester and/or the FASFA loans/grants?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:06 PM
Dec 2015

Do survivors still get stuck with the bill for the semester if there's a high-noon free-fire on the first week? Or can they apply for a refund?

Haele

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
88. two different ways to ultimately close this brain-washing, festering sinkhole
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:04 PM
Dec 2015

A. Education. Real science. Real social policy. Real history (which would put lie to all that crap they feed those young, vulnerable minds). Lots and lots of education. Sadly, many are immune to truth and facts, so this is not likely in the future.

B. Let them bring concealed weapons into school and their dorms. Darwin will win out over time.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
89. This will be an interesting and tragic experiment
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:27 PM
Dec 2015

I guess some right-wingers have been nominated to test the theory of whether more guns on campus make the campus safer.

Waitsman

(38 posts)
100. Of Course
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 04:47 PM
Dec 2015

Violence and religion have always been a part of each other.

“Religion, far from being beneficial food, turns to poison in infected brains.”
― Voltaire

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
107. why doesn't the school just require machine guns be strapped across everyone's back
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 06:34 AM
Dec 2015

just in case there is a crazy person there.

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