North Korea claims it has hydrogen bomb
Source: CNN
North Korean state media indicated Thursday that the reclusive nation has added the hydrogen bomb -- also known as a thermonuclear bomb -- to its arsenal, a development that, if true, would represent an upgrade to its nuclear weapons capabilities.
Observers in recent years believed that North Korea may have been working toward, but didn't yet have the capability to produce, a thermonuclear bomb, which can be hundreds of times more powerful than an atomic bomb.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un made the claim, according to state media outlet KCNA, while touring a historic weapons industry site in the country.
The communist country has been turned "into a powerful nuclear weapons state ready to detonate self-reliant A-bomb and H-bomb to reliably defend its sovereignty and the dignity of the nation," Kim said, according to the KCNA report.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/asia/north-korea-thermonuclear-claim/index.html
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Wear us down with false threats while we yawn and say "yeah ok whatever" and then they actually pull something off.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)They don't have the money for that.
Remember when Kim Jong Un declared all-out war on South-Korea a few years ago?
What? You don't?
Maybe you forgot because NK did precisely nothing after declaring war.
NK has a huge conventional army, but the equipment is about 40-50 years old. They would be up against SK's border-defences and SK's much more modern army.
(How hard would it really be for SK to put 1000 robotic machine-gun turrets on its borders?)
NK's only chance to attack SK would be to conquer it in one lightning-fast attack and take the whole population hostage before anybody can react. If they get bogged down in artillery-duels or throw nuclear bombs, the gloves are off. China will remove its protective hand from NK and the rest of the world will blow the infrastructure of Pyongyang to smithereens. Because Pyongyang is effectively the only notable place in NK. Once the electricity and telephones go down, NK is down. Good luck with keeping up your dictatorship when nobody can hear your orders.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)But what if it's all a ruse?
That's all I'm saying. I mean, satellite photos showing how much of their nation has electricity at night is a pretty good indication of how bad things are there but ya know.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)Everyone else is basically starving.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)To China, NK is that embarassing cousin you don't like, but hey, he's family. You are in theory supposed to be on his side.
But China's geopolitical strategy is to use money, to secure ressources in non-military ways (-> Africa) and to put itself into a militarily favorable position without engaging anyone militarily (-> building islands in the Pacific).
A war right on its doorstep would ruin China's strategy of peaceful domination. China would not support NK in a war. They would call for peace, but they would not join the fray on NK's side.
Example: ISIS has killed 3 chinese citizens. President Jinping has promised bloody retaliation. But China still isn't doing anything...
What could NK possibly do AND win?
Conquer SK? Takes too long, costs too many military ressources, costs too much economic ressources.
Hold another country hostage by threatening a nuclear attack? Maybe in a post-apocalyptic world where everybody who could reign in on NK is busy.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Piss off the right people?
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)It's probably true.
A delivery system the size of a small ship, however, is probably required.
I've stood next to some of the fusion bombs the US made circa 1960s and they weighed easily a ton and were several meters long.
The very very first ones were the size of a bus.
pampango
(24,692 posts)and the dignity of the nation" - not so much on food for the people who actually constitute the nation of North Korea.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)NK-propaganda contains a religious component. The Kim-family has co-opted an old korean myth and claims that Kim Yong Il was born in a hut, beside a lake, while a crane was flying over it yaddayaddayadda... just like some supernatural hero is born in that myth.
The Kim-family has effectively installed itself as divinely legitimated nobility in "communist" NK.
They know that their country is in deep shit economically.
They know that they can't stay in power AND do the massive changes needed.
They are waiting... waiting that sometime something will happen that will make their situation better.
And in the mean-time they are rulers of a broken country and defend it with outlandish threats.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I was under the assumption that it was all bear skins and bone knives there.
H-Bomb? It is not even possible to build an A-Bomb without the world knowing about it. NK has neither, no matter how loud they rattle their stone sabers. Plus, their rockets all blow up.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)They come out with this stuff whenever they want attention.
The ISIL terrorists have been getting all the press lately.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)They are so funny.
truthisfreedom
(23,149 posts)Interesting choice of words.
brooklynite
(94,638 posts)PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)Live awful lives and no one cares. They have nothing.
I wish there was someway to help them. There's no food. There's no power. They have nothing because their government uses everything up for the military and a few people at the top.
Botany
(70,539 posts)His country is starving to death and he builds unneeded weapons* he can never use
and a ski resort.
* I am somewhat doubtful of his claim of producing a h-bomb.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)By Ben Carson?
Botany
(70,539 posts)The world would be better off w/out either of these ass clowns.
BTW did you see this? D. Trump's civil war marker on his golf course ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-donald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html?_r=0
this lie alone should have sunk his run for POTUS but our "liberal media" made the trump=monster
and now they don't know what to do w/him.
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)Washington (AFP) - The White House on Thursday poured cold water on leader Kim Jong-Un's suggestion that North Korea has developed a hydrogen bomb.
Spokesman Josh Earnest said that the White House had concerns about the "destabilizing actions" of the regime, but said US information "calls into serious question" claims it has a thermonuclear device.
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-says-doubts-nkorea-h-bomb-claims-182400673.html;_ylt=AwrBT.Xew2lWU28AvpZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyYjUwMmQzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjExNzlfMQRzZWMDc2M-
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)a WWII gravity bomb.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Everyone in the control room says "uh oh", ducking right before they blow themselves up.