Six in ten jobless will be foreigners by 2017 (Sweden)
Source: The Local (Swedish Edition)
UPDATED: Sweden's Employment Agency (Arbetsförmedlingen) has predicted that 60 percent of unemployed people living in Sweden will be foreign-born by 2017, while the jobless rate for Swedes is set to shrink.
The agency released the figures as part of its labour market forecast for 2016 to 2017. It suggested that unemployment was set to decline between Swedish-born citizens aged between 15 and 64 from 7.5 percent in 2015 to around 6.6 percent.
However it said it expected the jobless rate for foreigners would rise.
A total of 21.8 percent of foreign-born citizens are currently unemployed, figures from Sweden's Employment Agency (Arbetsförmedlingen) showed last month. This means that around 50 percent of unemployed people in Sweden are originally from abroad. The agency's latest research suggests this is set to rise to 60 percent by 2017.
Read more: http://www.thelocal.se/20151209/six-in-ten-foreign-residents-will-be-jobless-by-2017
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)to do well in school, continue their education, and assimilate somewhat, they will become a fertile breeding ground for future jihadists like in France - unhappy and poor second generation immigrants.
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earthside
(6,960 posts)Displaced people without meaningful or any employment is a recipe for social disruption.
We need to be aware of this too and act accordingly; there has to be limits on immigration ... legal and illegal.
Elmergantry
(884 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)And ... common sense, reason, logic, critical thinking are becoming more and more uncommon.
Indeed, common sense is becoming thought crime to some.
Elmergantry
(884 posts)And yes political correctness has run amok. Just reads this morning that students in a college in PA want a hall renamed because it was named "Lynch Hall" in honor of a benefactor..."lynch" has racial connotations ya know....
pampango
(24,692 posts)immigration. One party talks about reducing legal immigration and it is not the Democratic Party.
Illegal immigration is declining. With Mexico more are returning there than coming to the US.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)You can offer very generous benefits is people don't use them too much.
Long ago I lived in Austria for a year and they had very generous unemployment benefits. I asked the people why their unemployment rate was so low which such high benefits.
The belief was that people worked. It was wrong for a German to be idle. The culture allowed for a high benefit because the reality was people did their best to stay off of the benefits and therefore they were used rarely in unusual or special circumstances. I'm sure that's changing as their cultures are changing, especially in the immigrant communities.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Do you think that unemployed people are unemployed because they want to be? People have to have skills. If the Swedes foresee this as a problem going forward, then they need to provide skills to the people coming into their country so that they CAN contribute. Your post makes it sound like immigrants are laying around with nothing to do because they like it that way.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)Ask a Frenchman what full time work is and he might say 30 hours a week. Ask an American and he might say 40 hours a week. There are real cultural differences even among fairly related groups.
It even changes over time among the same population. When welfare programs were first started, there was a real problem that people didn't apply for them on purpose because of the cultural prejudice against them. Today, while still a problem, it is much less of one.
The point is you start a program assuming the cultural norms of the population you're serving. As those norms change, or if large groups of people outside of the original population are added with very different cultural norms, don't be surprised if the program
comes under great stress.
Just one more example. you have a highly educated population which has very few kids. So you start a program to give large monetary incentives to families to have kids. Then you bring in a large group of less educated immigrants with lesser job skills, and entirely different cultural norms including very large families. Expect that program to come under huge stresses as the number of benefits paid out starts to grow past what can be afforded, and the population becoming less educated, and less middle class while the nation struggles to assimilate these new immigrants who may or may not want to be assimilated to one degree or another.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)This brings to mind the extreme fundamentalist mormon offshoots who have no trouble taking welfare and benefits for their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th wives and their 13 children. They don't participate in society, given nothing back, but feel free to take many benefits based on a "bleed the beast" philosophy. It's not even a blip on the radar for most folks, since these groups are a tiny percentage of the population, but such an attitude can really change the culture of a country like Sweden.
I hope they are more successful in the future assimilating their Islamic immigrants into society. Their generous benefit and welfare state will depend on it.
pampango
(24,692 posts)so many refugees.
At present 78% of the foreign-born are employed in Sweden. Given wages and the social services available there, that is a good statistic given the alternative that most foreign-born would have faced if they had not immigrated or sought asylum. Future high unemployment rates for foreign-born will be a big problem but one that a progressive society like Sweden can deal with successfully. The alternative of not accepting refugees and immigrants (something that right wing governments in Hungary and elsewhere adopt), leaving them to live in desperate poverty or refugee camps that they worked so hard to get away from, is hardly a liberal alternative.