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SandersDem

(592 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:27 AM Dec 2015

Trump Supporter Yells “Light The Motherfucker On Fire” As Protester Is Dragged Away At Rally

Source: BuzzFeed

Donald Trump held a rally Monday night in Las Vegas a day before the Republican presidential candidates are set to appear on stage for the final GOP debate of the year.

During the rally, multiple protesters attempting to interrupt the candidate’s speech were escorted out of the Westgate Las Vegas Resort. In a video captured by BuzzFeed News senior political writer McKay Coppins, a Trump supporter can be heard yelling “light the motherfucker on fire” as security officers restrain a protester.

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/trump-supporter-yells-light-the-motherfucker-on-fire-as-prot?utm_term=.omlL3ya0o#.xxMoypGEv

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Trump Supporter Yells “Light The Motherfucker On Fire” As Protester Is Dragged Away At Rally (Original Post) SandersDem Dec 2015 OP
Trump condones and encourages mob violence. Eventually he will get it. Hekate Dec 2015 #1
He should be prosecuted. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #9
What do you want the ACLU to do? brooklynite Dec 2015 #16
This is a free speech case. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #25
So I can walk to into your house and harrangue you? brooklynite Dec 2015 #30
Trump can't incite riots. SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #31
The ACLU needs a client OldHippieChick Dec 2015 #18
The ACLU acknowledges constitutional limits to free speech SusanaMontana41 Dec 2015 #24
Too many stupid getting emboldened Nyan Dec 2015 #2
Amazing level of hostility. Who would want to encourage these sub-human wrecks, anyway? Judi Lynn Dec 2015 #3
Years of brainwashing and PatSeg Dec 2015 #17
the GOP panders and moves right, purging everyone since Weicker in 1988 MisterP Dec 2015 #21
That is what happens PatSeg Dec 2015 #27
so now we have TWO parties saying nothing matters unless you win and jettisoning any principle! MisterP Dec 2015 #28
Yeah PatSeg Dec 2015 #32
Someone also yelled "Sieg Heil" at the same rally, thread in GD steve2470 Dec 2015 #4
It was only a matter of time before the brownshirts showed up. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2015 #5
K & R w0nderer Dec 2015 #6
These Trump rallies have riversedge Dec 2015 #7
It's only a matter of time before the 21st Century Kristallnacht. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #8
It looks that way more every day. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #10
I've met people waiting on the "go" order.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #11
unt after zat...nacht und nebel w0nderer Dec 2015 #14
These psychos would cheer to see our kind disappear. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #19
These psychos _are_ cheering to see our kind disappear. w0nderer Dec 2015 #29
America in 2016 is starting to look uncomfortably like Rwanda in 1993 GliderGuider Dec 2015 #12
Wow. Now that's some high grade hyperbole right there. n/t hughee99 Dec 2015 #22
He needs to study his party's history Turbineguy Dec 2015 #13
no w0nderer Dec 2015 #15
He is a sick, sick man. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #20
Round Up These Nazis billhicks76 Dec 2015 #23
I think the evangelicals will like this...he says the words they cannot say but would like to if no libdem4life Dec 2015 #26

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
9. He should be prosecuted.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:26 AM
Dec 2015

Speech that incites riots is not protected by the First Amendment:

The Incitement Test (Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969)
"The constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

Check. Check.

Hey, ACLU. What are you waiting for?

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
25. This is a free speech case.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:55 PM
Dec 2015

Mr. Southall was exercising his First Amendment right to free speech when Donald Trump encouraged his thugs to "get him the hell out of here."

Pretty clear to me.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
30. So I can walk to into your house and harrangue you?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:03 PM
Dec 2015

This was private property, that Trump had rented. BLM had the right to protest outside, they didn't have the right to interrupt Trump's free speech inside his space.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
31. Trump can't incite riots.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:16 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)

If I bought a ticket to see a movie, I would effectively be "renting" property (a seat) for the duration of the movie. If, while sitting in my rented space I yell "Fire!" and start a stampede that injures/ kills people, the First Amendment will not protect me. Nor should it.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
24. The ACLU acknowledges constitutional limits to free speech
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:40 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.aclu.org/news/culture-war-escalates-house-considers-violence-exception-first-amendment

"Rep. Henry Hyde, R-IL introduced the new measure this week as part of the ongoing debate over juvenile justice and gun control. The Hyde measure, H.R. 2036, would criminalize the exhibition, sale or loan of "sexual or violent materials" to minors. …

"The ACLU said that if adopted, the Hyde legislation would ultimately fail constitutional muster. The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that 'violent' speech can only be restricted when it is both intended and likely to incite imminent violence. To do otherwise, courts have found, would be to ban a wide range of controversial expression."

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
2. Too many stupid getting emboldened
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:45 AM
Dec 2015

And media will be all over this again for the next 48 hours.
Sensationalism, Controversy, Conflict, Violence. Trump's got it all for them.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
3. Amazing level of hostility. Who would want to encourage these sub-human wrecks, anyway?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:58 AM
Dec 2015

They are behaving so strangely, it's hard to believe they are real. Their minds have been by-passed altogether. How can this happen?

Thanks for this link. It's a real eye-opener.

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
17. Years of brainwashing and
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

validation by Fox News and right-wing talk radio has given such people a voice. In the past they would have lived in the shadows and expressed their fear and hate in whispers. People like Trump give them permission to express their anger openly and out loud.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
21. the GOP panders and moves right, purging everyone since Weicker in 1988
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

alas the DLC and 3Way has insisted on following right along, Overtoning themselves out of the House and Senate

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
27. That is what happens
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:26 PM
Dec 2015

when a party's platform is just about winning at any cost. Republicans will cater to anyone and say anything to get votes.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
28. so now we have TWO parties saying nothing matters unless you win and jettisoning any principle!
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:29 PM
Dec 2015

what a time to be alive!

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
7. These Trump rallies have
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:11 AM
Dec 2015

been know to get violent. (article has a lot of detail). I would just advise any protester to be very careful.



.....The protester, Ender Austin III, spoke to BuzzFeed News after he was ejected from the rally, saying he attended with a group of friends to stand up against Trump’s recent comments about Muslims.

“We came to the rally tonight to make sure issues that matter to us were heard,” he said.

When Austin began to shout and disrupt the candidate’s speech he said he was not given a verbal warning before he was physically removed.

“They immediately used physical force,” he said. “I absolutely was being disruptive, but as I was making statements I felt hands grabbing on me.”

Austin said he was placed in police custody outside of the rally, but was not arrested......

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. I've met people waiting on the "go" order....
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:40 AM
Dec 2015

They'd already selected targets.

Tell me how that's not a terrorist sleeper cell.

Oh wait,....that's right,...IOKIYAR.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
14. unt after zat...nacht und nebel
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:18 AM
Dec 2015

which is more scary

americans at nurenberg classified it as war crimes

...will they recognize it at home?
...will they stop it at home?

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
12. America in 2016 is starting to look uncomfortably like Rwanda in 1993
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:25 AM
Dec 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide#Preparation_for_genocide

Preparation for genocide

In March 1993, the Hutu Power began compiling lists of "traitors" whom they planned to kill, and it is possible that Habyarimana's name was on these lists; the CDR were publicly accusing the president of treason. The Power groups also believed that the national radio station, Radio Rwanda, had become too liberal and supportive of the opposition; they founded a new radio station, Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLMC), which broadcast racist propaganda, obscene jokes and music, becoming very popular throughout the country. One study finds that approximately 10% of the overall violence during the Rwandan genocide can be attributed to this new radio station.[86] During 1993, the hardliners imported machetes on a scale far larger than that required for agriculture, as well as other tools which could be used as weapons, such as razor blades, saws and scissors. These tools were distributed around the country, ostensibly as part of the civil defence network.

The Bushmaster .223 is the American machete.

Duck and cover, everybody.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
15. no
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:20 AM
Dec 2015

first you build hatred
then you build tolerance to excesses of violence
then you build a system that brings 'foes' to work and 'under class'
then you change the system so they die


sheeeesh
that's the 101 very simple one

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
23. Round Up These Nazis
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

Give them a taste of their own medicine. If you don't now they will be emboldened.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. I think the evangelicals will like this...he says the words they cannot say but would like to if no
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:58 PM
Dec 2015

one were around.

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