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Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts) Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:28 AM Dec 2015

Blistering cold follows on heels of wintry storm in West

Source: AP

By BRADY McCOMBS

Parts of Arizona more accustomed to sunshine and clear skies will see freezing temperatures this week that come with warnings not to leave pets or sensitive plants outside.

The chilly predictions follow wintry storms that moved across the West this week and dumped several inches of snow in northern Arizona, while leaving behind more than a foot in Wyoming and Montana.

The Salt Lake City area had its first major winter storm Monday with highway troopers reporting hundreds of accidents and slide-offs as nearly one foot of snow blanketed northern Utah.

Rain soaked parts of California as rigorous weather brought cold temperatures, powerful winds and pounding surf.

FULL story at link.

David Rutter, a full-time resident of Payson, shovels his driveway after snow fell, covering the area with a few inches in Payson, Ariz., Monday, Dec. 14, 2015. A storm that dumped snow on northern Arizona left traffic crawling along powder-packed highways and canceled schools Monday, with blistering cold weather expected to follow in its wake. (Tom Tingle/The Arizona Republic via AP) MANDATORY CREDIT

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ee732e13c3ae452bb74810cf0d198a36/blistering-cold-follows-heels-wintry-storm-west

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Blistering cold follows on heels of wintry storm in West (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 OP

Here in Michigan Shadowflash Dec 2015 #1

The ground is wet, sun is shining. postulater Dec 2015 #2

Same here in Burlington VT -- no snow yet! nt karynnj Dec 2015 #7

Nope! Wrong again. Temps are above normal. Way above normal still. ffr Dec 2015 #3

I do the same thing when I hear "Oil prices are on the rise!1!1" louis-t Dec 2015 #5

Little known fact: your town isn't the entire region. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #9

Most of the time, overnight temps for upper elevation locations are above normal ffr Dec 2015 #10

currently in the 30's on the Cali central coast... dhill926 Dec 2015 #4

"Blistering" cold? subterranean Dec 2015 #6

Meanwhile it's in the 50's in Western, New York... Earth_First Dec 2015 #8

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)

1. Here in Michigan

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:00 AM

Dec 2015

We don't even bother getting the shovel out for the amount of snow that's on the ground in that picture.

postulater

(5,075 posts)

2. The ground is wet, sun is shining.

Reply to Shadowflash (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:27 AM

Dec 2015

That snow will be gone by noon.

Even sooner if the drive was blacktop.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)

7. Same here in Burlington VT -- no snow yet! nt

Reply to Shadowflash (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:14 PM

Dec 2015

ffr

(22,670 posts)

3. Nope! Wrong again. Temps are above normal. Way above normal still.

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:37 AM

Dec 2015

I call bullshit on this sensationalistic piece.

Overnight temperatures are above normal. Just because the temps feel chilly does not mean they're below seasonal or daily averages, because according to Intelicast, here's the temps for where we live compared to the average today through the rest of the week.

today 4 degrees above normal
tomorrow 4 degrees below normal
the following day 8 degrees above normal
the following day 8 degrees above normal
the following day 13 degrees above normal
the following day 9 degrees above normal
the following day 14 degrees above normal
the following day 13 degrees above normal

We as humans may have a stunted memory and you can deny that it feels warmer than it should, but you cannot fool scientific record keeping.

The drought isn't over and the storms thus far out west have been fairly weak. Here anyways.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)

5. I do the same thing when I hear "Oil prices are on the rise!1!1"

Reply to ffr (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:35 PM

Dec 2015

"The collapse is finally over!!11!!" Then the article says "Oil prices went up 2% today...." That's 73 cents a barrel.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)

9. Little known fact: your town isn't the entire region.

Reply to ffr (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:12 AM

Dec 2015

It's below normal any way you slice it (high temperature or overnight low) in my town, though the overnight low is expected to be four degrees above the all time record low.

ffr

(22,670 posts)

10. Most of the time, overnight temps for upper elevation locations are above normal

Reply to LeftyMom (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:14 AM

Dec 2015

across the region, all year round. I've checked. It's not just a passing fad or just an oversimplification of the matter. I've seen lower elevations have colder temps than ours, but mostly in the winter, so maybe temperature inversions are keeping us at higher elevations much much warmer than what we would otherwise be. It's been consistent for years.

I'll give you some examples and you can go from there. Take a look at Denver, CO's, Lake Tahoe, CA's, & Boise, ID's current weather and forecast overnight lows, comparing them to historic averages, you'll see the same thing as I posted previously, all significantly and consistently above normal with few exceptions. I'd say that qualifies for a region.

So your point, though correct, is just not well founded in this situation.