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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:30 PM Dec 2015

Manager: Suspect called clerk a terrorist before shooting

Source: Detroit Free Press

10:31 a.m. EST December 15, 2015

GRAND RAPIDS -- The manager at a liquor store where a clerk was shot in the face says the victim was called a terrorist shortly before the suspect fired the gun.

<snip>

The manager at the store says the suspect came in just before they closed and asked the clerk for money. After giving him cash, she says the clerk was ordered into the back room.

While there, she says, the suspect put a gun into the victim's mouth and told him he was a terrorist. She says he went on to say that the victim was told that he was involved with ISIS. The clerk was shot in the cheek, suffering non-life-threatening injuries.

<snip>

"His main purpose appeared to be to rob the store," says Sgt. Terry Dixon of the Grand Rapids Police Department. "At that point, he felt the need to hold the victim at gunpoint. Called him an ISIS terrorist and that he used to kill people like him for fun overseas. Then he discharged the weapon. We aren't prepared to say this was a definite hate crime. We still need to find the suspect to determine what his motives are beyond the robbery"

Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/12/15/manager-suspect-called-clerk-terrorist-before-shooting/77351930/



Video at link.

Also (from The SPLC):

A Firestorm of Vicious Behavior Toward Muslims Rages in the Wake of San Bernardino Rampage

David Neiwert
December 10, 2015

Retaliatory threats and attacks follow terrorist couple’s murder spree, encouraged by bigoted remarks from politicians and pundits.

The murderous rampage by two apparently radicalized Muslims in San Bernardino, Calif., on Dec. 2 has become the latest flashpoint in the massive bonfire of Islamophobia being whipped up by anti-Muslim extremists and their mainstream conservative enablers in the United States.

In the week since the massacre of 14 people by Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, Muslims around the country have been confronted with a wildfire of retaliatory threats, vandalism, and attacks – even as politicians and pundits have stoked the flames of bigotry higher.

The ugliness began almost immediately after the shootings with a series of phoned-in and social-media threats, vandalizing attacks on mosques, and arsons of Muslim businesses, in locations all around the United States:

In St. Louis, Mo., a man phoned in a threat to the local offices of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, vowing to kill any Muslims who dared show up on his property. That man is unlikely to be charged with any crime.

In Manassas, Va., the local mosque was similarly threatened with a phoned-in threat from a man claiming to be a member of the extremist Jewish Defense League and vowing that his group “will do to your people what you did to them.” “We are checking now to see if one Jew has been shot or killed in California,” he said. “You all will be sorry. You all will be killed.”

In Palm Beach, Fla., a lone vandal attacked a local Islamic center, breaking windows and wreaking property damage inside. The man who was later arrested for the crime is the son of a well-known local educator.


cont'd...

Link: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/12/10/firestorm-vicious-behavior-toward-muslims-rages-wake-san-bernardino-rampage



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Manager: Suspect called clerk a terrorist before shooting (Original Post) inanna Dec 2015 OP
Another Pro ISIS action against perceived Muslims alfredo Dec 2015 #1
The GOP and their 6 media corporations must be so proud. nt valerief Dec 2015 #2
Yes the warmakers must be so proud of their media baby. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #13
Some interesting thought processes there catchnrelease Dec 2015 #3
"We aren't prepared to say this was a definite hate crime." blackspade Dec 2015 #4
^^THIS^^ nt 2naSalit Dec 2015 #5
Yep, SOS, white Christian a free pass. Just like the KKK with their burning crosses in the name of RKP5637 Dec 2015 #12
From what I got out of the article... ut oh Dec 2015 #6
They should make examples out of these fools and publish far and wide. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #7
Do these assholes know that we have an army they can join? world wide wally Dec 2015 #8
Yeah they know. But they are cowards and don't take command structure well. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #10
Trouble is, many of them are too dumb, fat, and/or tatted up. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2015 #11
The army doesn't want them jmowreader Dec 2015 #14
How about Blackwater? world wide wally Dec 2015 #15
Blackwater (well, Academi now) probably wouldn't take them either jmowreader Dec 2015 #16
I'm getting pretty sick of this passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #9
thank the NRA and their nut job supporters for our well armed militia... whereisjustice Dec 2015 #17
yes, NO idea as to motive, even from the suspect's own mouth. just like the murderer at Planned niyad Dec 2015 #18
This dumbshit cop still can't figure out it is a hate crime? The Stranger Dec 2015 #19

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
3. Some interesting thought processes there
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:36 PM
Dec 2015

The shooter says 'he used to kill people like him for fun overseas' and then calls the victim a terrorist. Wow.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
4. "We aren't prepared to say this was a definite hate crime."
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:50 PM
Dec 2015

Of course not....

Because when white Christian people do shit its 'mental health problems' or 'inconclusive,' or some other lame excuse.
So, move along folks, nothing to see here....

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
12. Yep, SOS, white Christian a free pass. Just like the KKK with their burning crosses in the name of
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

god. Just good old boys standing up for god and jesus. I'm so tired of this bullshit of religious christians do no wrong.

ut oh

(895 posts)
6. From what I got out of the article...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dec 2015

It sure sounds like a hate crime. The shooter should go to jail for a loooooooooooooong time.

This anti-Muslim crap has got to stop or the US is literally going to turn into a shooting gallery. That's not good for anyone, including the idiots going around shooting people.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
10. Yeah they know. But they are cowards and don't take command structure well.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:54 PM
Dec 2015

Plus it is possible they might fail to meet the entrance literacy requirements.

I think knuckle dragging in parade uniform is frowned on in the armed forces.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
14. The army doesn't want them
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:13 PM
Dec 2015

These are the kinds of thugs Dubya Bush forced the Army to take during his wars of convenience, and they're exactly the thugs that caused Bowe Bergdahl to just throw up his hands and walk away.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
16. Blackwater (well, Academi now) probably wouldn't take them either
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:22 PM
Dec 2015

Those companies prefer to hire retired snake-eaters - Army SF, Navy Seals, Marine Recon. Unprofessional people commit a lot more war crimes and they get their teammates killed.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
9. I'm getting pretty sick of this
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015
Retaliatory threats and attacks follow terrorist couple’s murder spree, encouraged by bigoted remarks from politicians and pundits.


Funny how this doesn't happen when white Christian terrorists kill people. Nobody says a word, except maybe "It's too soon to talk about guns...don't make this about guns".

niyad

(113,344 posts)
18. yes, NO idea as to motive, even from the suspect's own mouth. just like the murderer at Planned
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:26 PM
Dec 2015

Parenthood--who says, "no more baby parts" and "I am a warrior for the babies", but still, NOOOOOO possible idea as to motive.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
19. This dumbshit cop still can't figure out it is a hate crime?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:11 PM
Dec 2015

Holy shit, this guy is a fucking idiot.

What does he think -- the suspect is going to admit it was a hate crime and subject himself to the enhanced sentence?

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