Clinton Campaign: Data Was 'Stolen' By Sanders Campaign
Last edited Fri Dec 18, 2015, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS
Dec 18, 6:18 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The campaign manager for Hillary Clinton says its voter data was "stolen" by the presidential campaign of her Democratic rival, Bernie Sanders.
Robby Mook says on a Friday night conference call with reporters that "this was a very egregious breach and our data was stolen."
Mook says the actions of the Sanders staff involved "may have been a violation of the law."
Read more: http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/Clinton-campaign-Data-was-stolen-by-Sanders-campaign-362989811.html
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Clinton campaign: Data was 'stolen' by Sanders campaign
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2015-12-18-US--DEM%202016-Sanders%20Data/id-d8579d23b69b4ae7a8a1cf0764b94b2d
That better?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Happens quite frequently with them.
I revised the link.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,705 posts)I post from the AP in LBN all the time and it does happen.
OS
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)with this shit. They are as desperate and suicidal as the wignnuts
its the very thing that will guarantee low voter turnout during the GE, again.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Trump wins. which Hillary Trump whats the difference. a 2 month warning and they ignored it ? after Sanders data was stolen? Sanders needed the data to prove the error. nuff said. alas there's too many crazy Hillary fanatics out there Pretty much lay back and let it go thru the courts. Think tomorrows Debate should be delayed till after the Holidays.
Duval
(4,280 posts)It's hard to imagine how these two can have a civil debate after this.
George II
(67,782 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)....stupid and unethical for sanders operatives to do what was done.
Omaha Steve
(99,705 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)Jeff Weaver, Sanders campaign manager:
Sanders communications director Michael Briggs:
http://www.npr.org/2015/12/18/460273748/bernie-sanders-campaign-locked-out-of-key-voter-file-after-data-breach
What the Sander's campaign did was unethical and stupid.
Omaha Steve
(99,705 posts)And for the DNC to break it's contract with Bernie.
PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... the frustration over the DNC. But the fact is that there is a great difference between not fixing a bug and deliberately accessing a rival's confidential data. The DNC was stupid. Sander's operatives were stupid and unethical.
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valerief
(53,235 posts)Oh, man, I want the facts to come out on this. I'm sooooo pissed with this bullshit.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... characterize voters to guide their GOTV efforts and focus on the voters who might be persuaded one way or the other . This is very valuable strategic and tactical information and it takes a lot of effort and expertise to develop .
riversedge
(70,296 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:50 AM - Edit history (1)
This is the type of data that the Sanders camp assessed....
....
.....What was accessed
Two senior Democrats familiar with the program and the investigation told CNN that the Sanders campaign accessed turnout projections for Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, a key piece of strategy the Clinton campaign has been working on with modeling and analytics.
The Sanders team, which consisted of four people, ran multiple searches in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and about 10 March states, including Florida and Colorado. In Iowa and New Hampshire, the Clinton campaign has ranked voters on a scale of 1-100 for turnout, enthusiasm and support, the senior Democrats said. The Sanders campaign ran two searches: "Show me all the Clinton people rated higher than 60" and "Show me all the people rated less than 30." This would be a key way of knowing who Sanders should target in the final weeks before voting: Ignore those above 60, while focus on those below 30, because they are looking for a Clinton alternative and might be open to Sanders.
The investigation into what information was lifted should only take a few days as there are audit logs and trails of the activity, which took place beginning around 10:40 a.m. and lasting for about 40 minutes, the senior Democrats said.
They added that the Clinton campaign views this as a big deal but will not say so publicly because it will fan the flames of liberal groups trying to fight with the DNC.
In a statement released Friday afternoon, the Clinton campaign called for the Sanders campaign and the DNC to "work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaign's account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data."................
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/index.html
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)It did NOT consist of four people. If you and CNN think it did, then you haven't been paying attention. Nothing else said here can be trusted.
riversedge
(70,296 posts)More information --the Truth
"the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information."
http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/
...............According to data reviewed by TIME, the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.
Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 listsconsisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaigns databaseand saved them to their personal folders.
The logs show the Sanders campaign accessed the Clinton data for nearly one hour beginning around 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. The Sanders staffers were apparently able to view unique voter information along with accompanying information about how likely the voters were to vote for the various candidates, crucial information that the Clinton campaign has likely spent millions of dollars to collect.
The Clinton campaign called for a clear accounting of the breach.
We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders campaign account, said spokesman Brian Fallon. We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaigns account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.
Moreover, the Sanders staffers who carried out the breach included a top lieutenant for the Vermont senator: Josh Uretsky, the national data director for the campaign.
The Sanders campaign denied that it had downloaded any data, saying that it did not retain information from the Clinton campaign.
They didnt download itthey went in looked around, said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, who announced Thursday the campaign was firing Utersky and that they were treating the matter seriously.
Uretsky also told MSNBC that the campaign did not export any records or voter file data and was simply trying to document and understand the scope of the problem..................
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And it's not Time I'm talking about.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)I thought Latest Breaking News was supposed to use the real news headlines.
Not made made up partisan crap.
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Purveyor
(29,876 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....because I mistakenly typed "LA Times" instead of "LAtin Times". No warning, just an alert and a hide, even though the link was correct and the content was correct.
Omaha Steve
(99,705 posts)I apologized to George in private on that one after giving him a hard time. I could see me making the same mistake.
OS
George II
(67,782 posts)....the hide is still there so when I was hoping to become a host in a forum in the near future, now that has to be put off an additional month.
But like the Sanders theft of Clinton's data, its over and behind us all.
riversedge
(70,296 posts)would be a bummer.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts).. .that at least was the consensus of Shields and Brooks tonight on PBS NewsHour. .
.
elmac
(4,642 posts)and he's called the DNC
Jnclr89
(128 posts)This will pass, don't get get caught up in the moment. This is what elections are like every year.
Welcome to DU!
hay rick
(7,638 posts)According to NGP on their blog (http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy): "for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign." Theft usually means something was taken and the vendor says that didn't happen.
MADem
(135,425 posts)but he says he only did it to prove a point. Yeah, sure!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-staffers-clinton-data-saved-files
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files
The logs show that the Vermont senators team created at least 24 lists during the 40-minute breach, which started at 10:40 a.m., and saved those lists to their personal folders. The Sanders searches included New Hampshire lists related to likely voters, "HFA Turnout 60-100" and "HFA Support 50-100," that were conducted and saved by Uretsky. Drapkin's account searched for and saved lists including less likely Clinton voters, "HFA Support <30" in Iowa, and "HFA Turnout 30-70"' in New Hampshire.
Looking for "less enthusiastic" Clinton voters to poach. That's pretty low.
hay rick
(7,638 posts)I use the VAN on a regular basis so I am somewhat familiar with how it works. I am trying to piece the incident together based on information as it comes available to me. I posted earlier based only on information from NGP. I heard the Clinton spokesman refer to the 24 lists during CNN's Weaver interview but I hadn't seen a printed story before.
The first piece of the puzzle is the usernames. In VAN, an administrative user can create additional accounts for other users. Those accounts need to be linked to an email account before they can be verified and activated. A person can create an additional account for himself using an email account different from the email account linked to his administrative account. Uretsky may or may not have done that, but at the very least, NGP has a record of the linked email accounts.
Users generally have access to files by belonging to a committee, user group, or campaign. My permissions are good for my local Democratic Party (committee). I can save search files and make them available to other members of the committee.
NGP posted the following on their blog (http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy): "for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign." Putting this together with the 24 lists information, it appears the Sanders accounts were able to search the Clinton files but were either unable or refrained from printing or copying the data. If they did either of those things NGP would have log data. If the file was printed they would have a record of pdf creation. If a file was exported they would also have a log record.
The NGP blog post contradicts the information on the saving of lists in personal folders. I have no way of knowing which account is correct at this point...
marble falls
(57,177 posts)penndragon69
(788 posts)They cannot win against Bernie on the issues, character or
their record so they double down on right wing
smear tactics. DW Schultz is doing everything she
can to make Bernie out to be the bad guy.
NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)HRC - the clear front-runner by a wide margin - is the "desperate" one.
The candidate who is ahead in all national polls is "getting desperate" - so desperate, in fact, that she and her operatives have "set up" BS's campaign, forcing them to retrieve and download information they had no right to access.
No doubt the "desperate" HRC camp was so scared shitless of BS's position - which is far behind her in the polls - they decided to jeopardize her entire campaign by resorting to "dirty tricks" in order to make Bernie (who, I repeat, is FAR behind her in the polls) look bad.
Yep, makes SO much sense.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)riversedge
(70,296 posts)at making his campaign sound sleazily by accessing Clinton data (which Sanders has acknowledged)
INdemo
(6,994 posts)like this accusing the Sanders campaign of this bull shit,then this campaign is one hell-of-a-lot closer than is being reported by the poll numbers every 3 hours. Bill Clinton is in on this somehow because its just his dirty dealing style.
So Bernie is probably leading in Iowa also and Hillary fears another 2008 all over again.
Think we'll hear a scream speech from her?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)She belongs in jail.
riversedge
(70,296 posts)Sanders camp did more than snoop. It was wrong--deliberately wrongdoing.
"the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information."
http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/
...............According to data reviewed by TIME, the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.
Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 listsconsisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaigns databaseand saved them to their personal folders.
The logs show the Sanders campaign accessed the Clinton data for nearly one hour beginning around 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. The Sanders staffers were apparently able to view unique voter information along with accompanying information about how likely the voters were to vote for the various candidates, crucial information that the Clinton campaign has likely spent millions of dollars to collect.
The Clinton campaign called for a clear accounting of the breach.
We were informed that our proprietary data was breached by Sanders campaign staff in 25 searches by four different accounts and that this data was saved into the Sanders campaign account, said spokesman Brian Fallon. We are asking that the Sanders campaign and the DNC work expeditiously to ensure that our data is not in the Sanders campaigns account and that the Sanders campaign only have access to their own data.
Moreover, the Sanders staffers who carried out the breach included a top lieutenant for the Vermont senator: Josh Uretsky, the national data director for the campaign.
The Sanders campaign denied that it had downloaded any data, saying that it did not retain information from the Clinton campaign.
They didnt download itthey went in looked around, said Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, who announced Thursday the campaign was firing Utersky and that they were treating the matter seriously.
Uretsky also told MSNBC that the campaign did not export any records or voter file data and was simply trying to document and understand the scope of the problem....
Vinca
(50,303 posts)It occurred to me that while I've never registered on any Hillary Clinton-related site, a couple of weeks ago I got stuff in the mail from her campaign. The timing is rather odd.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)This whole thing smells like a bullshit setup to me.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Vendor also reveals every ip logged on ( to campaigns IT people) whenever the firewall was down and their data was exploited. Probably not the only people who exploited that Vendor problem.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)To the Sanders campaign.
The DNC and its vendor were nehligent in handling Hillary's data.
I hope that there will be a trial with full discovery on who did what when.