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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:38 AM Dec 2015

Evangelist Franklin Graham slams, quits GOP

Source: Fox News

Evangelist Franklin Graham announced Tuesday he is leaving the Republican Party over the GOP-led spending bill passed last week, calling it “wasteful” and likening funding of Planned Parenthood to Nazi concentration camps.

“Shame on the Republicans and the Democrats for passing such a wasteful spending bill last week,” he said. “And to top it off, funding Planned Parenthood!”

Graham, who had previously slammed both political parties, let his frustration flow on a Facebook posting.

“Seeing and hearing Planned Parenthood talk nonchalantly about selling baby parts from aborted fetuses with utter disregard for human life is reminiscent of Joseph Mengele and the Nazi concentration camps!,” he wrote. “That should’ve been all that was needed to turn off the faucet for their funding. Nothing was done to trim this 2,000 page, $1.1 trillion budget.”....


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/22/evangelist-franklin-graham-slams-quits-gop.html



Look, I know "Fox" is not terribly reputable, though it is mainstream, but I didn't find anyone else carrying this rather freaky news--it was linked via Google. Also, this guy is ostensibly "religious," but this is rather big news, to see one of the loyal GOP religious operatives shove the Greedy Old Party under the bus.

This hate-filled poop flinger is going to have to go somewhere; can't imagine where he'll end up. The Fascists aren't running a candidate this cycle, I don't think...
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Evangelist Franklin Graham slams, quits GOP (Original Post) MADem Dec 2015 OP
It's on the Daily Beast and Newsmax too... Contrary1 Dec 2015 #1
Well done, MADem! Indeed, where will he go? R&K nt longship Dec 2015 #2
He can go... 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #36
exactly! thank you. n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2015 #38
Most people quit the GOP because it's become too insane and Nazi-like jmowreader Dec 2015 #3
+1,000! nt MADem Dec 2015 #6
Really. SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #25
Same here LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #45
HaHaHa true rockfordfile Dec 2015 #40
I see his point, and support him. In fact, I highly recommend others do the same. :D nt silvershadow Dec 2015 #4
Provided they stop voting all together then I agree rpannier Dec 2015 #8
true. nt silvershadow Dec 2015 #9
Somehow I don't think you and Franklin Graham see eye-to-eye jmowreader Dec 2015 #13
That is music to my ears. :) nt silvershadow Dec 2015 #15
At last. See the true light. Midnight Writer Dec 2015 #5
If this really happened... Jerry442 Dec 2015 #21
So . . . Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #7
he's a rightwing tool Skittles Dec 2015 #12
Your rationale makes far too much sense to ever persuade the likes of Graham. appal_jack Dec 2015 #31
Brawaaa I'm like What!? he's pulling a Frank Schaeffer and seeing the Light! Cha Dec 2015 #10
Yeah, for a minute I had the same thought, sparking a glimmer of hope within me classof56 Dec 2015 #35
Cheers and Happy Holidays to you, classof56~ Cha Dec 2015 #43
This lie, this selling baby parts meme has got to be stopped. truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #11
since the GOP has been co-opted by the radical far left - what can one expect? Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #14
He wants so desperately to be the "great leader" ms liberty Dec 2015 #16
Too hateful get the red out Dec 2015 #17
He'll be back in a week. Hugin Dec 2015 #18
I agree Zorro Dec 2015 #22
He will get a big donation of some kind and all will be forgiven. DhhD Dec 2015 #47
Believe it or not, he may find an actual party. A ringe party, but one nonetheless... Archae Dec 2015 #19
This hate-filled poop flinger is going to have to go somewhere HoosierCowboy Dec 2015 #20
Crazy lark Dec 2015 #23
His father Billy Graham has Parkinson's disease. Justice Dec 2015 #24
Yea, okay, whatever Frankie. leftofcool Dec 2015 #26
what a liar RussBLib Dec 2015 #27
Note to GOP: when you quit feeding the extremists they turn on you. Get used to it. marble falls Dec 2015 #28
Quitting for all the wrong reasons packman Dec 2015 #29
This man wants Amerika ruled by the religious fanastics that solely Iliyah Dec 2015 #30
Oh, boo fucking hoo. Did widdle Fwanklin get him's widdle feelings hurt? catbyte Dec 2015 #32
Maybe he will Duval Dec 2015 #33
Fight To The Death For Fetus Yallow Dec 2015 #34
Must be difficult for him to discover GOLGO 13 Dec 2015 #37
Here is the article from The Washington Post from December 22, 2015.... xocet Dec 2015 #39
must not have been any money for state supported religions rurallib Dec 2015 #41
Good...go away. bdwker Dec 2015 #42
huh.. Don't let the door hit ya annabanana Dec 2015 #44
so when will we see the posts that he is still to the left of hrc (sarcasm) dembotoz Dec 2015 #46
Fuck. That asshole can potentially do more harm IN the party than out. . . BigDemVoter Dec 2015 #48
Well, he didn't jump to US-he will go to some other loony outfit and pull votes away from the GOP.nt MADem Dec 2015 #49

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
3. Most people quit the GOP because it's become too insane and Nazi-like
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:57 AM
Dec 2015

This asshole quits them because they're not Nazi-like enough.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
25. Really.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015

And before I read past the headline I was giving him credit for good sense.

(Obviously I did not know him well - I try to ignore people like that when I can.)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
45. Same here
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:59 PM
Dec 2015

I thought for a second he was following in Frank Schaefer's shoes. Frank is the son of a famous Conservative Christian legend Francis Schaefer. Frank shocked the fundie crowd with his rejection of right wing conservatism. He was even defrocked temporarily as a Methodist minister for performing a gay wedding.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/frank-schaefer-defrocked_n_4473290.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/20/us/20beliefs.html?_r=0

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
8. Provided they stop voting all together then I agree
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:35 AM
Dec 2015

All they'll do is withdraw membership and keep voting for them

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
13. Somehow I don't think you and Franklin Graham see eye-to-eye
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:29 AM
Dec 2015

He, and a lot of other GOPers, want the government to stop spending money - especially on those nasty social programs - and to not only stop funding but actually outlaw Planned Parenthood. Because the new budget does neither, and not because the GOP has turned into a band of unstable whackjobs, is the reason Franklin Graham left the party.

Midnight Writer

(21,769 posts)
5. At last. See the true light.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:21 AM
Dec 2015

Continue to write your books, not to bring glory and power and riches to yourself, but to teach the ways of Jesus.

Continue to spread the Word, to educate and lift the spirits of your brethren, not to fund raise for your mega church.

Endorse the Spirit of Christ, not the politicians who mask themselves behind His Name.

Change souls through enlightenment, not through the imposition of secular laws.

Seek to be a servant of The Holy Word, seek not to be a master of Men.

Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's. Render unto God that which is God's.

May God speed you on your journey to spiritual truth.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
7. So . . .
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:34 AM
Dec 2015

poor women shouldn't have access to prenatal care, cancer screening, birth control pills, HIV screening? Federal funding already can't be used for abortion so he's objecting to all these other medical necessities that keep women, and their babies, healthy.

Onward Christian fucking soldiers! Assbites.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
31. Your rationale makes far too much sense to ever persuade the likes of Graham.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:32 PM
Dec 2015

Skittles' summation of him is as accurate as it gets.

I want every Democrat and rational-thinking Independent to stand up for women's health, privacy, choice, and the separation of church and state. Graham opposes all of this, and unfortunately has a mighty big megaphone which he is not shy about using. Bt every minute he spends sniping at other Republicans is a moment he could otherwise be doing worse things, so there is a bit of a silver lining...

-app

Cha

(297,323 posts)
10. Brawaaa I'm like What!? he's pulling a Frank Schaeffer and seeing the Light!
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:40 AM
Dec 2015
?

But, Nooooo.. the repubs aren't near nasty enough for him. LOFL

classof56

(5,376 posts)
35. Yeah, for a minute I had the same thought, sparking a glimmer of hope within me
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:01 PM
Dec 2015

But alas, was not to be. Shoulda known as much. We are talking about Franklin Graham, after all, who has proved his true character time and time again. Or perhaps I should say lack thereof. I think he should have a conversation with Frank Schaeffer, but pretty sure that won't happen, and wouldn't change Franklin's mind anyhow. Sigh...

Cheers and Happy Holidays.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
11. This lie, this selling baby parts meme has got to be stopped.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:06 AM
Dec 2015

Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what this idiot does.

ms liberty

(8,580 posts)
16. He wants so desperately to be the "great leader"
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:36 AM
Dec 2015

To take the mantle of his father's position as pastor to presidents and to be the great Christian leader of the nation. And to continue bringing in all that money, with him at the top of the christo-corporate food chain. What a jerk.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
22. I agree
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:01 AM
Dec 2015

He'll return to the fold soon.

He's a shameless liar, a common trait of high-visibility Republicans.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
19. Believe it or not, he may find an actual party. A ringe party, but one nonetheless...
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 08:36 AM
Dec 2015

The "Constitution Party."

They are die-hard "Christian" fascists, and are fighting for a theocracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
20. This hate-filled poop flinger is going to have to go somewhere
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:19 AM
Dec 2015

He'll rent the entire Fifth Floor of the Drake Hotel in Chicago....private joke

lark

(23,121 posts)
23. Crazy
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:35 AM
Dec 2015

I'm sure he doesn't have problems with all the innocent people killed by drones and by police, though. Typical far RW religious nut, bet he'd vote for Trump?

Justice

(7,188 posts)
24. His father Billy Graham has Parkinson's disease.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:53 AM
Dec 2015

He has also had hydrocephalus, pneumonia, prostate cancer and broken hips.

Biological material from aborted fetuses is a rich source of stem cells.

Donations help doctors study a host of degenerative diseases - including Parkinson's.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/08/12/the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-fact-checks-the-republican-debate/

RussBLib

(9,020 posts)
27. what a liar
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 11:53 AM
Dec 2015

PP is not "selling baby parts ... with utter disregard for human life" but that doesn't stop people from demagoguing it. The more times people hear it, the more they believe it. Talk about the Nazi's Frank!

But he's an evangelical. I expect him to lie his ass off. That's all they have.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
30. This man wants Amerika ruled by the religious fanastics that solely
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

believes only his way and I'll say no thanks. As to the GOP, why leave them, heck you guys are peas in a pod.

catbyte

(34,407 posts)
32. Oh, boo fucking hoo. Did widdle Fwanklin get him's widdle feelings hurt?
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:33 PM
Dec 2015

Who cares? He's the Nazi. I almost wish I believed in hell because this hateful con man deserves to burn in it for eternity.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
34. Fight To The Death For Fetus
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:44 PM
Dec 2015

But when the baby is born, deny it food, housing, and medical care.

And his "followers" are too stupid to see it.

This is why I am a follower of Jesus' teachings. I will not call myself a Christian, and align with these nut jobs in any way.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
37. Must be difficult for him to discover
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:49 PM
Dec 2015

that everything they've been telling these cross-humpers has been lies. Lies to get their money, support & votes. Now he's free to go start a new Christo-fascist death cult party like his father really wanted.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
39. Here is the article from The Washington Post from December 22, 2015....
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:14 PM
Dec 2015
Evangelist Franklin Graham quits the Republican Party over Planned Parenthood funding
By David Gibson | December 22


(RNS) Evangelist Franklin Graham has announced he is abandoning the Republican Party in disgust over the move by the GOP-led Congress last week to pass a budget that Graham said was “wasteful” and provided funding for Planned Parenthood, which he compared to the Nazis.

Graham has previously said he has no faith in any political party, but his apparent renunciation of his Republican affiliation is an indication of anger on the right and the strong interest many disaffected evangelicals have shown in populist outsiders like Donald Trump.

Graham himself has expressed admiration for Trump, the surprise frontrunner in the Republican presidential field, and has voiced support for some of Trump’s more controversial positions — such as his call to ban Muslims from the U.S. — which have drawn condemnation from more mainstream evangelical leaders.

...

The federal government provides $528 million in funding for Planned Parenthood — about 40 percent of the organization’s annual budget — primarily through payments to Medicaid for health services for low-income Americans. Federal law prohibits funding of most abortions and Planned Parenthood separates federal taxpayer dollars from those used to provide abortions.

...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/22/franklin-graham-quits-the-gop-over-planned-parenthood-funding/




rurallib

(62,426 posts)
41. must not have been any money for state supported religions
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

hidden as some social programs or education. That can piss a guy off.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
46. so when will we see the posts that he is still to the left of hrc (sarcasm)
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:51 PM
Dec 2015

I lament his leaving the gop cause it makes the gop look more centrist to some
his followers are not going to vote dem no matter what...
nice to have him creeping out the undecided with his perverse silly stuff.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. Well, he didn't jump to US-he will go to some other loony outfit and pull votes away from the GOP.nt
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 03:06 AM
Dec 2015
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