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Omaha Steve

(99,686 posts)
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:30 PM Dec 2015

Snow-starved Northeast will finally see a winter storm

Source: AP

By KATHY McCORMACK

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — After a December that has felt more like spring than winter, the first major snowstorm of the season is about to hit the Northeast.

That's good news for New England ski resorts, many of which have been struggling to make snow amid temperatures that could push several cities to record warmth for the month. Through Sunday, for example, the average temperature in Concord was 39.4 degrees, or 12.1 degrees warmer than normal. The warmest December in Concord came in 1891, an average of 35.4 degrees.

"It's made it really hard for ski areas to even make snow, which has meant limited trails, trail counts, limited terrain for skiers," said Jessyca Keeler, executive director of Ski New Hampshire, which represents a number of resorts. "I think there has also been a lack of interest on the part of a lot people who would normally be out skiing."

Snow was to start falling Monday night with northern New York and much of Vermont expected to get 3 to 7 inches by midmorning Tuesday. Up to 12 inches was expected in parts of New Hampshire and Maine, with lesser amounts in Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island. The snow was expected to turn into sleet and then freezing rain.

FULL story at link.


Joseph Lebeau mixes road sand and salt at the Department of Public Works facility in Worcester, Mass., as the Worcester DPW prepares for winter weather Sunday. (Rick Cinclair/Worcester Telegram & Gazette via AP) MANDATORY CREDIT

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cc54403e3e2e43599c26843d3180af56/snow-starved-northeast-will-finally-see-winter-storm

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Snow-starved Northeast will finally see a winter storm (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2015 OP
Snow-starved? underpants Dec 2015 #1
Not desirable, but necessary sarge43 Dec 2015 #4
Farmers know this. murielm99 Dec 2015 #6
Aye up sarge43 Dec 2015 #7
I hope it can wait until Jan 2 in Rochester, NY. :>))) pangaia Dec 2015 #11
Thanks heaps :) sarge43 Dec 2015 #12
OMG I forgot about the power lines. pangaia Dec 2015 #14
Any time. Fortune favors the prepared. sarge43 Dec 2015 #15
On EDIT.. pangaia Dec 2015 #17
Yeah, that's moment sarge43 Dec 2015 #19
And it is ALWAYS in the middle of the night.! pangaia Dec 2015 #20
Because the weather gods hate us. n/t sarge43 Dec 2015 #22
We need snow, whether we like it or not. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #5
YES! I LOVE snow, and a 70 degree day just before Christmas is unnatural and creeps me out. Squinch Dec 2015 #9
we're getting freezing rain in SE Mich now notadmblnd Dec 2015 #2
The yuppies and capitalists may be "snow-starved" catnhatnh Dec 2015 #3
I dont know about the east but here in the west.......... ErikJ Dec 2015 #8
I'm neither of those, and I hate this creepy warm weather in December. I'd love some snow. Squinch Dec 2015 #10
After the brutal record snowfalls here in MA last year Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #13
New England; wait a few minutes, it'll change. sarge43 Dec 2015 #16
Oh I know Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #23
We're hardly snow-starved. We've been getting tons of rain. That's all the valerief Dec 2015 #18
Good winters are key to New England's economy Tab Dec 2015 #21

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
4. Not desirable, but necessary
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:56 PM
Dec 2015

Snow acts as mulch and a blanket. Without it the ground will deep freeze, destroying the root systems of many plants and trees. Further, when the ground is hard frozen it takes longer for it to unfreeze and rain water/what snow melt there is can't be absorbed and it winds up in the basement.

The fauna and flora upcheer are adapted to snowy winters. Without it they don't do well.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. I hope it can wait until Jan 2 in Rochester, NY. :>)))
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:54 PM
Dec 2015


But I hope you folks in Aye yup country get a ton. Enjoy !

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
12. Thanks heaps :)
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:59 PM
Dec 2015

Better fill up the bathtub and the water bucket. They're talking freezing rain which usually means power outage. O joy.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. OMG I forgot about the power lines.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:12 PM
Dec 2015

FRONTIER Communications-- the worst F*****G utility company in the country.

freezing rain from 8 pm or so..

Something ALWAYS goes down.. even in a heavy rain.
I'll crank up the heat (all electric) and get the place roasting !!

Thanks for the reminder..


sarge43

(28,942 posts)
15. Any time. Fortune favors the prepared.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:28 PM
Dec 2015

I can't complain about our utility company. The linemen are heroic.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. On EDIT..
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:34 PM
Dec 2015

Our linemen are also great. It's the rest of it...

Terrible internet speeds 1.8 download speeds.. .. poor landline reception... wi-fi often drops....

Every time the wind picks up something falls over or explodes.... :&gt )))

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
19. Yeah, that's moment
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:47 PM
Dec 2015

When you hear a CRACK!, look outside and there's a shower of sparks and a tongue of blue flame dancing around the light pole right in the middle of a pine stand. "Oh crap!!" Either a branch came down or a squirrel decided to end it all with a gaudy suicide. Country life -- it really isn't boring.

Squinch

(50,989 posts)
9. YES! I LOVE snow, and a 70 degree day just before Christmas is unnatural and creeps me out.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:46 PM
Dec 2015

I live here because I like seasons. I hate this winter.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. we're getting freezing rain in SE Mich now
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:34 PM
Dec 2015

We live in a heavily wooded area and boy am I glad we had our trees trimmed early last year. Feeling pretty confident that none of my branches will take out the powerline in the backyard.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
3. The yuppies and capitalists may be "snow-starved"
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

But if you live in NH and have to heat a home you've been laughing your ass off. I know I have...

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
8. I dont know about the east but here in the west..........
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
Dec 2015

we need snow for drinking water and irrigation and refilling aquifers.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
13. After the brutal record snowfalls here in MA last year
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:03 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not complaining about the delayed snowfall this year. Yeah, there's issues with it, but it's been cyclical as well. We had a winter like this back in '06 where we had an addition built on and the roofers were working in t-shirts in January it was so "warm." Warm being about 45 degrees. Just now snow.

The year after that we had snow on Halloween I believe - like three feet of it.

New England; wait a few minutes, it'll change.

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
16. New England; wait a few minutes, it'll change.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:31 PM
Dec 2015

Don't forget. Move over a mile or so and it will change.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
23. Oh I know
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 09:05 PM
Dec 2015

I'm on the east side of 495 and have family just over the west side - like a mile or so past it either way. If it snows, we all have different realities in a big way. It's hilarious.

"That was some crazy snow! We got a foot!" "Snow? It's been quiet all day!"

valerief

(53,235 posts)
18. We're hardly snow-starved. We've been getting tons of rain. That's all the
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 06:41 PM
Dec 2015

precipitation we need, thank you very much.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
21. Good winters are key to New England's economy
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 08:01 PM
Dec 2015

Skiers bring revenue to mountains, bars, shopping, employees, hotels, ski shops, and many, many other things.

Having spent many years in the ski industry, I can attest to the scope of a bad winter, but also there are really only a couple of "good" weeks - one is the Thanksgiving week, if you can get it with decent snow - but the absolute drop-dead is Christmas/New Years vacation. If you fail that (if only because of lack of snow) it'll be a rough season. The second chance is February vacation but unfortunately that's inconsistent across school districts as to when it occurs, so it's hard for a ski mountain to introduce holiday rates when it's spread across weeks.

There are secondary economies, including highway (snowplow) workers who can put in long hours and overtime during major storms, individuals who do plowing services, heating revenue, and more.

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