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groundloop

(11,521 posts)
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:55 AM Dec 2015

Report: Authorities tell how they found "affluenza teen" Ethan Couch and mother

Source: CBS News

GUADALAJARA, Mexico -- A teen fugitive from Texas known for using an "affluenza" defense, and his mother, were scheduled to be flown to the U.S. after authorities said a phone call for pizza led to their capture in the Mexican resort city of Puerto Vallarta.......

A U.S. Marshals Service agent tipped local authorities off Monday to the location of Couch - who was on juvenile probation after killing four people in a 2013 drunken-driving wreck - and his mother, according to a police report issued by the Jalisco state prosecutors' office and obtained by The Associated Press. Couch disappeared as authorities investigated whether he had violated the terms of his probation.

During the sentencing phase of Couch's trial, a defense expert argued that his wealthy parents coddled him into a sense of irresponsibility - a condition the expert termed "affluenza." The condition is not recognized as a medical diagnosis by the American Psychiatric Association, and its invocation drew ridicule.

According to the police report, one of the Couches' telephones had been used to order delivery from Domino's Pizza to a condominium complex in Puerto Vallarta's old town, far from the glitzy resorts of the city's newer section.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-authorities-tell-how-they-found-affluenza-teen-ethan-couch-and-mother/



From further down in the story it sounds like poor Ethan still isn't going to face very much time in custody, the maximum is 120 days followed by a 10 year probation. He's getting off damned light for killing four people. His mother could potentially face 2 to 10 years in prison for hindering an investigation, she deserves every minute of it.



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Report: Authorities tell how they found "affluenza teen" Ethan Couch and mother (Original Post) groundloop Dec 2015 OP
His mother is going to Tien1985 Dec 2015 #1
Don't be so sure: she's been suffering affluenza longer than he has Orrex Dec 2015 #7
The horror. The horror. keithbvadu2 Dec 2015 #14
But, I suspect it's going to be a LONG and Expensive 120 days ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #2
If they can get this kid into an adult facility avebury Dec 2015 #4
Juvenile Correction facilities, are just as, if not more, dangerous than adult facilties. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #6
I believe the "affluenza" situation. We have all known rich, spoiled brats. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #3
What I heard is that they're going to try to get the charges switched out of juvenile court... George II Dec 2015 #5
They need to be looking at the father avebury Dec 2015 #8
Don't forget the grandparents... jomin41 Dec 2015 #23
Too bad they can't haul the original judge in on charges randr Dec 2015 #11
What were the charges on the two? brush Dec 2015 #12
flight from justice.... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #15
Thanks. I didn't know there was a parole violation brush Dec 2015 #16
"so they are simply deporting them (not an extradition apparently)" keithbvadu2 Dec 2015 #24
I thought their credit card transactions would give them away PeoViejo Dec 2015 #9
I think a Trac Phone would be beneath them, they would probably rather be caught. ToxMarz Dec 2015 #19
That ten year probation is gonna be hellish. He'll find himself in jail in two shakes of a lamb's MADem Dec 2015 #10
He's hiding in Mexico and he called in for a Domino's crap pizza? hobbit709 Dec 2015 #13
proof that criminals aren't the brightest bulbs farleftlib Dec 2015 #17
What's funny to me is it is probably the same Dominos I ordered from. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2015 #21
U.S. Marshals were tapped into their cell phones, why didn't they just call them? Sunlei Dec 2015 #18
Probably didn't want to spook them christx30 Dec 2015 #20
He used his CELL PHONE while he was on the lam? ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #22
I've seen Puerto Vallarta's old town... Fawke Em Dec 2015 #25
The lack of true justice in this case if horrific!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #26
His original penalty could have been much higher. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #27

Orrex

(63,220 posts)
7. Don't be so sure: she's been suffering affluenza longer than he has
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:39 AM
Dec 2015

The Struggle Is Real, the poor dear.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. But, I suspect it's going to be a LONG and Expensive 120 days ...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:11 AM
Dec 2015

every inmate will know the guy is rich and their lawyers and commissary, ain't going to pay their selves.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. If they can get this kid into an adult facility
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:26 AM
Dec 2015

I imagine the other prisoners will make his life a living hell and the guards won't put up with any crap from the kid.

He is another George Zimmerman type. He is incabpable of being rehabilitated and will only continue to keep getting into trouble. He will not be able to avoid serious jail/prison time forever. It is only a matter of time before his luck runs out.

Mom needs to experience some serious prison time and not in a cushy facility. She won't have a fun time either.

I don't understand why this family has not been bankrupt by now with civil suits from the victims' families.

I would have loved to see the prosecutors go after Mom and Dad for the deaths and injuries to their son's victims. If the defense was going to put the blame on the parents for the way they raised their son then they should have had to face negligent homicide charges. A rational person would know that giving a drunk person access to a car can have bad consequences and that was exactly what they did. They can't claim ignorence because that accident was not the first run in the law that their son had with drinking and driving. The first incident put them on notice and they failed to act in a responsible manner.

By the way, I imagine that there was alcholhol involved in their little going away party. Another parole violation.

And where the heck is Dad during all of this? If they can prove that Dad was in contact with his wife and son during their little escapade, he should be looking at charges for aiding and abetting them as well.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
3. I believe the "affluenza" situation. We have all known rich, spoiled brats.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015

The cure for this condition is to show the brat that there are consequences THEY will have to pay! All he learned is that the rules don't apply to him!

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. What I heard is that they're going to try to get the charges switched out of juvenile court...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:37 AM
Dec 2015

....and then the penalty will be much higher. There are also a few additional charges that they're sorting out, things like violating probation, unlawfully leaving the country, etc. And his mother has a slew of charges facing her, too.

As they said yesterday, he's facing time in "big boy prison".

avebury

(10,952 posts)
8. They need to be looking at the father
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:46 AM
Dec 2015

to see if they can find any evidence that he helped them or communicated with them in any way.

It would be nice to see if they can find grounds to charge the father so that he can spend time in jail as well.

The parents can only continue to try to protect their brat as long as they hae the funds to do so. The parents need to learn that actions have consequences and jail time and draining their financial resources would be a good start.

The problem with this whole family is that none of them have yet to face the consequences of their actions.

So what if the kid had dysfunctional parents. He is hardly the only kid in that situation and most other kids wouldn't get a free pass from the judicial system because they aren't from rich families.

randr

(12,414 posts)
11. Too bad they can't haul the original judge in on charges
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:52 AM
Dec 2015

From the get go this case was a shining example of how bad our judicial system is. Not unusual that this happened in Texas where they have been making movies about bad judges since the oater days.
This whole family and their lawyers included should have been raked over the coals. The boy killed 4 people and his defense was that he was raised poorly.
It will be a good day when this brat and his "affluent" mom finally receiving some justice.

getagrip_already

(14,825 posts)
15. flight from justice....
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:03 AM
Dec 2015

He missed a mandatory appointment with his parole officer. That put him in violation of his parole resulted in a warrant.

She was aiding in his flight and evasion, which is a felony.

The mexican gov't is claiming they entered the country illegally (they didn't register with their real names), so they are simply deporting them (not an extradition apparently).



keithbvadu2

(36,886 posts)
24. "so they are simply deporting them (not an extradition apparently)"
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:05 PM
Dec 2015

"so they are simply deporting them (not an extradition apparently)"

Great solution!

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
9. I thought their credit card transactions would give them away
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

...but using their cell phone from home is even more affluensive.

Carlos Slim made Billions selling Trac Phones and they're available just about everywhere in Mexico. For ten bucks or less, they could have avoided detection. Just use it for a few days and give it to some hooker, or throw it on a truck going elsewhere.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. That ten year probation is gonna be hellish. He'll find himself in jail in two shakes of a lamb's
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:52 AM
Dec 2015

tail, especially if momma gets sentenced to two to ten!

And I hope she is.

My family has endured a situation similar to this. There were fewer victims, but even one is too many.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
21. What's funny to me is it is probably the same Dominos I ordered from.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:08 PM
Dec 2015

Our first day in PV my boyfriend and I ran in to a group of ladies on a "girl's weekend" away from their husbands. We all proceeded to get shitfaced drunk at the pool. After drinking all day and no food, I had had enough and went upstairs when the "party" migrated to the ocean. I tried to order room service. Much to my dismay, it was too late for room service so I cracked open a telephone book and ordered Dominos.

Let me clear, I fucking HATE Dominos pizza. I don't know how they stay in business in a city like Chicago where I live.

Any who, the boyfriend and our new friends get asked to politely exit the ocean as they are too "boracho" and the security is worried for their safety. For the best to be sure. The boyfriend comes upstairs and finds me and a Dominos pizza. He asks me how the fuck I managed this.

We spent the next day in the sauna trying to sweat out wicked hangovers.

We still laugh at it to this day. Two gay guys and the crazy out of control wives on a bender. And crappy Dominos in Mexico.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. U.S. Marshals were tapped into their cell phones, why didn't they just call them?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:09 AM
Dec 2015

break a term of probation and then flee the country makes it worse.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. Probably didn't want to spook them
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:43 PM
Dec 2015

into getting rid of their cell phones. The tracking is more useful than calling them and telling them to turn themselves in.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
22. He used his CELL PHONE while he was on the lam?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

Just how stupid is that family?

I read that daddy makes millions in the sheet metal industry. That the minor sonny had his own mansion. That momsy always took care of all his problems by buying him out of them.

There is something seriously wrong with them. Pity they get to kill people and put others at risk.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. I've seen Puerto Vallarta's old town...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:20 PM
Dec 2015

That actually might be worse than jail.





Doesn't excuse him, of course. I'm just making a point about how the people who serve rich tourists at the resorts live.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
27. His original penalty could have been much higher.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:45 AM
Dec 2015

I looked up the range of punishment for intoxication manslaughter in Texas.
It's a 2nd degree felony with a range of 2 to 20 years prison and a $10,000 fine.
Technically, since he killed four people, he could have gotten 80 years hard time in the cooler and a $40,000 fine.

The judge reduced it to a third degree felony, which is 2 to 10 and a $10,000 fine.
You cannot get probation for more than ten years.


Ten years probation is a slap on the wrist. They yank his probation, and if they can get him in the adult system, then he would probably serve the full ten years. I wish they could resentence him to the max.


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