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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:18 PM Dec 2015

Venezuela Top Court Bars 4 Lawmakers From Taking Office

Source: AP



The Supreme Court on Wednesday barred four incoming lawmakers from taking office, putting at risk the opposition's newly won two-thirds legislative "super-majority."

Responding to a legal challenge filed by supporters of the ruling socialist party, the Supreme Court blocked the four lawmakers from being taking their seats when the new National Assembly convenes Tuesday.

The ruling affects three opposition lawmakers and one socialist deputy, all from the sparsely populated state of Amazonas. The court will also consider challenges to a handful of other lawmakers, but has so far stopped short of barring those representatives from taking office.

The opposition won a landslide victory in Dec. 6 legislative elections, taking control of congress for the first time in more than a decade. The coalition captured 112 of 167 seats, giving it by one seat a two-thirds majority that would allow it to rein in socialist President Nicolas Maduro. It would be able to censure top officials and rewrite basic laws and could open the door to recalling Maduro or even rewriting the constitution.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/venezuela-top-court-bars-lawmakers-taking-office-36020857

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Venezuela Top Court Bars 4 Lawmakers From Taking Office (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Dec 2015 OP
There you have it; ignoring the legal vote of the people 7962 Dec 2015 #1
What a surprise, NOT. GGJohn Dec 2015 #2
The Opposition Probably Won More Seats Yallow Dec 2015 #3
You 3 people need to review the nearby thread about Argentina - elias49 Dec 2015 #4
I think they understand very well what is going on down there. betterdemsonly Dec 2015 #12
No, I think you and the other first-world marxists in this site are the ones who don't know Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #15
Maduro and his criminal gang are gonna get overthrown by right-wing fascists Reter Dec 2015 #5
While you're brushing up on S American history, check out the thread on Pinochet in Chile elias49 Dec 2015 #6
"Maduro can just do NO wrong!" :eyeroll: Archae Dec 2015 #9
How would we know some anonymous dude is a real venezuelan? betterdemsonly Dec 2015 #11
Hello, there! :D Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #16
I think there is a Venezulan right so don't care really betterdemsonly Jan 2016 #20
Well, can't say I'm surprised. Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #21
Appreciate the mention. Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #17
I feel like the article is missing some key information Bradical79 Dec 2015 #7
They're accused of voter fraud. betterdemsonly Dec 2015 #10
The Ven. government right now controls (at least until Jan 5) all major institutions and military Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #18
Buying votes is a common claim from the right betterdemsonly Jan 2016 #19
Yes, but only this time, the Chavistas blatantly and proudly showed they were buying votes N/t Marksman_91 Jan 2016 #22
Prediction for 2016... Archae Dec 2015 #8
Your prognostication is duly noted elias49 Dec 2015 #13
It's just a guess on my part... Archae Dec 2015 #14
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
1. There you have it; ignoring the legal vote of the people
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:24 PM
Dec 2015

EXACTLY what many of us predicted would happen. And of course we were blasted for it as well.
This illegal regime will do whatever it has to do to keep power.
And some ill-informed should here will cheer them all the way

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
2. What a surprise, NOT.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:01 PM
Dec 2015

Maduro is now a full fledged dictator, getting the top court to do his bidding.
Where are his supporters now?

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
3. The Opposition Probably Won More Seats
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

The Maduro Gang most likely rigged a lot of the elections their dying party did win.

I know this because the Chavistas demanded my wife give them her SS number (Venezuelan equivalent) to leave the country, so someone could use it to vote for her. They wouldn't let her board the plane without giving up her number. Leaving.....

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
4. You 3 people need to review the nearby thread about Argentina -
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:50 PM
Dec 2015

darn those 'socialists'! They wanted to prevent monopolies. But the new right wing will void laws and regulations.
Do any of you really understand what's happening in S America?
Didn't think so.
Laughable.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
12. I think they understand very well what is going on down there.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:54 AM
Dec 2015

Anyone can claim to be a democrat and even run as one.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
15. No, I think you and the other first-world marxists in this site are the ones who don't know
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:38 AM
Jan 2016

I advise you to take yourself to Venezuela one of these days, or even Cuba for that matter, and try to live there as if you were a citizen (NOT a tourist) of that country. Hopefully that gives you some better insight.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
5. Maduro and his criminal gang are gonna get overthrown by right-wing fascists
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:14 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:30 AM - Edit history (1)

And they are going to have no one to blame but themselves.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
6. While you're brushing up on S American history, check out the thread on Pinochet in Chile
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:29 AM
Dec 2015

Did you know that we helped put Pinochet in power?
Is that what you want to happen in Argentina and Venezuela? Because of some Pavlovian slavering at the word 'socialism'?
Come on. This is the Democratic Underground.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
9. "Maduro can just do NO wrong!" :eyeroll:
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:49 AM
Dec 2015

Ask a *REAL* Venezuelan, Marksman 91, about Maduro and his goons.

And guess what! Chile's dictators are long gone.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
11. How would we know some anonymous dude is a real venezuelan?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:52 AM
Dec 2015

He should give us his name and his address if he want credibility. I'll bet if he is a real venezulan he is a rich conservative one. His username makes him sound like a nra troll.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
16. Hello, there! :D
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jan 2016

I'd be glad to prove my actual Venezuelanism to you. Hell, I'm willing to send you a link to my Facebook profile, which should prove it more than well enough. Of course, I'd rather use private messaging since I don't like to give personal info out in public forums. Hit me up anytime!

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
20. I think there is a Venezulan right so don't care really
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jan 2016

The argument is akin to "Ted Cruz says income inequality in the US isn't a problem therefore it isn't, because he represents all Amercan opinion." He doesn't.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
21. Well, can't say I'm surprised.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jan 2016

It's common for Chavista supporters to lump anyone who does not support Chavismo with right wingers. You should consider not looking at the world in black and white, it doesn't do you any favors.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
17. Appreciate the mention.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:41 AM
Jan 2016

I'm more than willing to prove I'm Venezuelan to anyone who asks. Of course, I'd rather do this through private messaging than on a public forum. Surely you understand why.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
7. I feel like the article is missing some key information
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015

No mention of the legal reasoning given by the court, or what accusations led to the seats being challenged. I could probably make a pretty good guess, but this has been a pet peeve of mine with a lot of news organizations that are supposed to employ journalists :-P

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
10. They're accused of voter fraud.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

These people gave us the coup in 2002 so I wouldn't be surprised at all. They are no different from the right in the US. They want media monopolies, and they want no safetynets at all, so the rich don't have to pay taxes.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
18. The Ven. government right now controls (at least until Jan 5) all major institutions and military
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jan 2016

In fact, they are the ones who have openly been giving out things like cars and computer tablets to people as a campaign strategy. And not only that, Tibisay Lucena, the current director of the Electoral Council, is a Chavista sympathizer (though she doesn't admit it.) If there is any actual voter fraud going on, it's on the Chavistas' side. Stop being so naive and believing all the BS propaganda from pro-Marxist websites and Telesur.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
19. Buying votes is a common claim from the right
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jan 2016

about the center and the left in this country. Republicans always claim dems are giving out free stuff for votes. They say that simply because centrists and right wingers offer public schools and health care. They claim Obama is giving the poor cellphones for votes. The baggers call them Obamaphones. These are garden variety smears against anyone to the left of Attila the hun.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
8. Prediction for 2016...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:47 AM
Dec 2015

(I sure hope I'm dead wrong, but it sure looks like I won't be...)

Maduro declares a "state of emergency."
Or starts a war with Guyana.

He declares himself "El Presidente" for life, or the duration of the war/emergency.

VN goes into a state of anarchy, and a military right-wing strongman seizes power.

And as to The long-gone dictator of Chile, this has *ZERO* to do with the incompetent Maduro.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
14. It's just a guess on my part...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:22 AM
Dec 2015

Based on what happened in Central America and South America, both left and right dictatorships.

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