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brooklynite

(94,572 posts) Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:24 PM Dec 2015

Mexican Hotel Workers Say 'Affluenza' Teen and Mom Had Gun in Their Room

Source: ABC News

The mother-son duo who allegedly fled from Texas to Mexico had a gun with them while staying at a resort in Puerto Vallarta, two hotel employees told ABC News.

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Because they wanted to extend their stay and the hotel needed their ground-floor room for a disabled woman, the hotel employees say, they moved the Couches to another room.

The new guests found a gun inside the nightstand, the employees say. They immediately called the hotel and an employee picked up the gun and wrapped it inside a bathroom carpet and put it in a plastic bag, the employees say.

The following day, according to the hotel workers, Ethan retrieved the gun after being asked whether he had left anything in the room. He took the gun without giving any explanation, the employees said.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/mexican-hotel-workers-affluenza-teen-mom-gun-room/story?id=36029202

Are there any other ways this guy could violate parole?

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Mexican Hotel Workers Say 'Affluenza' Teen and Mom Had Gun in Their Room (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #1

There's a big sign right before you get to the border that reads: maveric Dec 2015 #7

Yes, it does! I would prefer he do a LOT of time THERE!! nt 7962 Dec 2015 #22

Parole might be the least of his problems, a Mexican jail might be in his future Lurks Often Dec 2015 #2

Maybe he thought it was a room amenity, like the Gideon Bible. brooklynite Dec 2015 #3

lol. but methinks he doesn't look at the bible all that often. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #6

It sounds more like Mexico just wants them gone. groundloop Dec 2015 #4

Sheesh, this guy is a dimwit. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #5

Um, maybe fighting extradition wasn't the smartest thing this dim bulb could do DebbieCDC Dec 2015 #8

He's FIGHTING extradition? What a dumbass!!! 7962 Dec 2015 #23

Toss the piece of garbage in the slammer, and throw away the key. Hulk Dec 2015 #9

How can Mexico just let them go, christx30 Dec 2015 #10

Mexico is probably glad to get rid of these 2 asses pronto Person 2713 Dec 2015 #11

I honestly can't say I blame them. I'd rather christx30 Dec 2015 #12

he should just get sent to mexican prison ValasHune Dec 2015 #17

Looks like if convicted of weapons posession in Mexico christx30 Dec 2015 #20

Here's Dreaming to that! ValasHune Jan 2016 #28

lots of money gets special treatment in mexico..... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #13

Aging out of jeopardy via expatriation doesn't work. elehhhhna Dec 2015 #15

just curious... why not? getagrip_already Dec 2015 #18

Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Eugene Dec 2015 #14

Money talks so this kid walks.. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #16

Of course. nt onehandle Dec 2015 #19

Wow. They're holding him at the Needles. herding cats Dec 2015 #21

I think the Couches are running out of money. blogslut Dec 2015 #24

Not a five star hotel left-of-center2012 Dec 2015 #25

They left the gun so that the Mexican authorities would have a reason to hold him and avoid Monk06 Jan 2016 #26

this kid is auguring in, there will be a hollywood movie out of this before it is over. olddad56 Jan 2016 #27

I hear Mexico has problems keeping its paperwork in order Paula Sims Jan 2016 #29

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maveric

(16,445 posts)

7. There's a big sign right before you get to the border that reads:

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:45 PM

Dec 2015

Guns not Allowed in Mexico.

7962

(11,841 posts)

22. Yes, it does! I would prefer he do a LOT of time THERE!! nt

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:56 PM

Dec 2015

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

2. Parole might be the least of his problems, a Mexican jail might be in his future

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:31 PM

Dec 2015

Mexican laws on who can own firearms is very strict and as a foreigner, I'm fairly certain he is not allowed to have a firearm at all. He could be spending years in a Mexican jail.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)

3. Maybe he thought it was a room amenity, like the Gideon Bible.

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:36 PM

Dec 2015

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

6. lol. but methinks he doesn't look at the bible all that often.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:44 PM

Dec 2015

sure as hell doesn't follow it....

groundloop

(11,519 posts)

4. It sounds more like Mexico just wants them gone.

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:37 PM

Dec 2015

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,456 posts)

5. Sheesh, this guy is a dimwit.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:40 PM

Dec 2015

Affluenza is the least of his worries.

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)

8. Um, maybe fighting extradition wasn't the smartest thing this dim bulb could do

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:46 PM

Dec 2015

given this description of where he's being held. Not even close to Club Fed or the Tarrant County Jail in Texas for that matter

[link:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/affluenza-teen-held-at-mexican-immigration-holding-center/ar-BBo5zEw?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=U141HDHP|

7962

(11,841 posts)

23. He's FIGHTING extradition? What a dumbass!!!

Reply to DebbieCDC (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:57 PM

Dec 2015

Hulk

(6,699 posts)

9. Toss the piece of garbage in the slammer, and throw away the key.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:49 PM

Dec 2015

This spoiled rotten brat should already be behind bars for the death of four innocent victims. Such a pathetic farce.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

10. How can Mexico just let them go,

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:53 PM

Dec 2015

given this information? They should hold onto them pretty much forever at this point, if they can prove the gun belonged to the Couches.
There was that Marine vet, Tahmooressi that claims to have accidently driven into Mexico with a number of arms. They held him for 200 days. Mexico should try and convict Ethan for weapons charges. After his sentence is up, he should come back to the US and complete his sentence here.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)

11. Mexico is probably glad to get rid of these 2 asses pronto

Reply to christx30 (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:56 PM

Dec 2015

christx30

(6,241 posts)

12. I honestly can't say I blame them. I'd rather

Reply to Person 2713 (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:03 PM

Dec 2015

they be imprisoned on Titan or something.
I'm sure any other person that comes from the US to Mexico would face hard time if they carried weapons into the country. Mexico just doesn't want to raise a stink about it in this case.

ValasHune

(38 posts)

17. he should just get sent to mexican prison

Reply to christx30 (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:39 PM

Dec 2015

to stay... much worse than he would ever face here... obviously.

christx30

(6,241 posts)

20. Looks like if convicted of weapons posession in Mexico

Reply to ValasHune (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:53 PM

Dec 2015

he could get 3 months to 3 years imprisonment, and pay 360 days of his net income.

ValasHune

(38 posts)

28. Here's Dreaming to that!

Reply to christx30 (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:27 PM

Jan 2016

And serioulsy.... an American rich kid in Mexico.... who is hated by America.... Not a wise choice considering the cartels could just kidnap him demand ransom. They'd get their money and then send him back in a pieces. And i wouldn't care.

getagrip_already

(14,751 posts)

13. lots of money gets special treatment in mexico.....

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:16 PM

Dec 2015

The lawyers clearly have a strategy. They are likely trying to run out the clock on his hearing to xfer him to adult court. He may have the right to be present at the hearing, and if he isn't back until after he is 19 they can't touch him.

His juvie sentence will have expired.

All they need to do is stretch the legal process out until april. It's all up to the mexican courts. The family has already hired a high priced mexican legal firm to handle the process. Read between the lines.

But why they (mex guvt) aren't doing anything about the firearm is curious. Mexico doesn't take that lightly. Being dumb and american doesn't help one bit. Being dumb, american, and rich only adds to the fun on their side.

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)

15. Aging out of jeopardy via expatriation doesn't work.

Reply to getagrip_already (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:21 PM

Dec 2015

getagrip_already

(14,751 posts)

18. just curious... why not?

Reply to elehhhhna (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:46 PM

Dec 2015

Can they do anything once his juvie sentence ends? All the current penalties just cause his freedom to be revoked, but only under the juvie system, no? He still walks on his b day, correct?

Eugene

(61,899 posts)

14. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:18 PM

Dec 2015

Couch can beat this, but his new Mexican lawyers
will really have to work hard to get him out of it.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)

16. Money talks so this kid walks..

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:39 PM

Dec 2015

It's a lousy society that allows this kind of flaunting of the law.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

19. Of course. nt

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:53 PM

Dec 2015

herding cats

(19,564 posts)

21. Wow. They're holding him at the Needles.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:35 PM

Dec 2015

It's mentioned in the article below the linked one on ABC.

That's one hell of a tough migrant station.

Google "Iztapalapa, Las Agujas" if you want to know more.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)

24. I think the Couches are running out of money.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 06:32 PM

Dec 2015

Someone posted an article from D magazine where the father yanked the son out of a California rehab facility because he could not afford the cost. As far as I can tell, the mother doesn't work and I'm assuming she lives off some sort of support from the father.

I don't know much about the sheet metal manufacturing industry but I really don't believe these people can sustain the legal costs to keep their son out of jail much longer.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)

25. Not a five star hotel

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:04 PM

Dec 2015

"common sleeping areas and bathrooms, and concrete wash basins for hand-washing clothes"
"Couch will sleep on a cot or bunk in a semi-open bedroom shared with two or three other detainees.
Unarmed immigration guards patrol the unit ... other than the common bathrooms."

I suspect he'll need a friend to have his back.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)

26. They left the gun so that the Mexican authorities would have a reason to hold him and avoid

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 1, 2016, 01:31 AM

Jan 2016

extradition. The Mexican police will then have a way of bribing the Couches. They will be more than willing to pay said bribe to keep him out US jurisdiction

He will not spend a day in jail at least not what common criminals call jail

Alt theory is that the gun was used as backup for fucked up drug deals while he was down there

Think about it. Pizza, gringos, guns, PV = drugs

olddad56

(5,732 posts)

27. this kid is auguring in, there will be a hollywood movie out of this before it is over.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:00 AM

Jan 2016

Paula Sims

(877 posts)

29. I hear Mexico has problems keeping its paperwork in order

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 03:01 PM

Jan 2016

Who knows how long the kid might stay there?

Now, can we work on getting Justin Beiber back to Canada??

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