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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:07 AM Jan 2016

Breaking: US Sailors released by Iran - Updated with link to NY Times

Source: CNN

No link yet, being reported on CNN TV.



Read more: Link to source



I'll add a link as soon as I find one.

Update 4: CENTCOM confirming the release as well as getting the boats back

Update 3: Link to NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/world/middleeast/iran-navy-crew-release.html?_r=0


Update 2: CNN reporting that Iranian TV is reporting on the release


Update: A tweet from BBC

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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Breaking: US Sailors released by Iran - Updated with link to NY Times (Original Post) leftynyc Jan 2016 OP
Great news! Matthew28 Jan 2016 #1
RT reporting it also leftynyc Jan 2016 #3
NY Times has a link BumRushDaShow Jan 2016 #2
Thanks - I had added it to OP leftynyc Jan 2016 #4
I was starting to wonder what was going on. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #5
CNN was explaining that leftynyc Jan 2016 #7
luckily EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #6
If HRC were pres., we'd have droned & cluster-bombed immediately Divernan Jan 2016 #8
No she would not have. Although I do think she would have stormed in and told the Bundy Militia Hoyt Jan 2016 #11
hard to know EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #12
Amen EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #13
Stop talking like Fox news. You sound foolish-and dangerous talking like that. riversedge Jan 2016 #16
HRC has never "evolved" from supporting cluster bombs, now, has she!?!? Divernan Jan 2016 #18
Stay focused on the OP --that is if you are able to control your hate for Hillary. riversedge Jan 2016 #35
Bullshit leftynyc Jan 2016 #21
Yeah.Like"We came, we saw, he died." Snort - snort! Divernan Jan 2016 #24
More nonsense leftynyc Jan 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jan 2016 #23
We Bernie folks are elated, as compared to Camp Clinton's panic. Divernan Jan 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jan 2016 #28
No. Fantasizing about the end of U.S. nation building Divernan Jan 2016 #33
+1 newfie11 Jan 2016 #19
I like the new direction with Iran... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #9
+1. Hoyt Jan 2016 #10
yes EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #15
and thanks to his effective SoS. karynnj Jan 2016 #31
And Obama didn't grandstand this at the SOTU last night underpants Jan 2016 #14
they had not been returned yet karynnj Jan 2016 #29
Yeah I know but they couldn't resist n/t underpants Jan 2016 #34
I thought he might throw in a one-liner on it... Wounded Bear Jan 2016 #40
if we did not or would not push our hand madokie Jan 2016 #17
Sanity prevails newfie11 Jan 2016 #20
While I agree leftynyc Jan 2016 #22
Pretty much same as here madokie Jan 2016 #26
another victory for diplomacy and John Kerry and Zarif karynnj Jan 2016 #30
+1 Kerry is the best S. of State in my lifetime too .... 58 years old Botany Jan 2016 #39
Agree completely. tabasco Jan 2016 #42
Just curious watoos Jan 2016 #32
Good question. How long would we even know about it? mmonk Jan 2016 #36
Not the whole story... roomtomove Jan 2016 #37
What on earth are you babbling about? leftynyc Jan 2016 #38
Damn. The GOP won't get WWIII today. sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #41
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Thanks - I had added it to OP
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:20 AM
Jan 2016

probably while you were typing it. Things are moving fast. I haven't heard anything about their condition or experience.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
5. I was starting to wonder what was going on.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jan 2016

I have heard that the revolutionary guard often does its own thing from the rest of the government, so I was concerned they might be held despite the assurances of release.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
6. luckily
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:32 AM
Jan 2016

they didn't render them to some black site and torture them, or waterboard them, or just kill them with a drone...

oh wait, that's us.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. If HRC were pres., we'd have droned & cluster-bombed immediately
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:52 AM
Jan 2016

I'm glad time was taken for a diplomatic, bloodless resolution.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. No she would not have. Although I do think she would have stormed in and told the Bundy Militia
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jan 2016

yahoos to lay down their gunz and get out.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
12. hard to know
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:18 AM
Jan 2016

her campaign manager is a lobbyist for arms manufacturers and Saudi Arabia... both would love the US to blow up Iran.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. HRC has never "evolved" from supporting cluster bombs, now, has she!?!?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jan 2016

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill--a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas--presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world.

The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children.

Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.

All senators are expected to inform themselves on the issues before they cast a vote. The evidence is overwhelming. It is hard to believe that Senator Clinton was unaware of the humanitarian crisis when she voted to continue the use of cluster bombs in cities and populated areas. A U.N. weapons commission called cluster bombs "weapons of indiscriminate effect." For years the international press reported the horrific consequences of cluster bombs on civilians. On April 10, 2003, for example, Asia Times described the carnage in Baghdad hospitals: "The absolute majority of patients are women and children, victims of shrapnel, and most of all, fragments of cluster bombs." Reporting from a hospital in Hillah, The Mirror, a British newspaper, became graphic: "Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that 'all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside.'"



http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary

Response to Divernan (Reply #8)

Response to Divernan (Reply #27)

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
33. No. Fantasizing about the end of U.S. nation building
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jan 2016

But of course you full well realize that those of us in Bernie's camp are adamantly opposed to things like Hillary's weapon of choice, cluster bombs and a policy of MIC profiteering endless war.

underpants

(182,876 posts)
14. And Obama didn't grandstand this at the SOTU last night
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:18 AM
Jan 2016

I actually saw criticism of him NOT grandstanding this on Fox News's review. They love whining about what he doesn't say.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
29. they had not been returned yet
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:50 AM
Jan 2016

Kerry and Zarif had worked out how to do it, but Obama doing anything at that point old have been a mess.

Wounded Bear

(58,704 posts)
40. I thought he might throw in a one-liner on it...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:37 AM
Jan 2016

You know, something like, "All efforts are being made to get our people back" or something vague and general like that.

Of course, the RW would have called it a "promise" and if it didn't happen in a timely manner would have been hammering the air waves with it. The Pres is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

It is definitely a good thing that our folks are coming home, and that it didn't escalate into another huge deal endangering other, very important arrangements.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. if we did not or would not push our hand
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jan 2016

Iran would not be our enemy.
Simple as that.
The Iranian people are a lot like Americans, they want the same things we do. A stable life, Education, freedom to worship as they each wants and on and on.

Get out of these people's lives is what I say to the American's who want to make life difficult for brown people. Leave'm the fuck alone

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. While I agree
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jan 2016

that the young are more as you say - it's the hardliners that have a boatload of power over there. Let's not pretend otherwise or that this stunt was anything more than Iran swinging their dick around.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
26. Pretty much same as here
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jan 2016

its the hardliners who have the power around here.

Leave 'm the fuck alone is what I advocate. Get out of their lives.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
30. another victory for diplomacy and John Kerry and Zarif
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jan 2016

Their personal relationship is the first direct American/Iranian link since the Carter days. A relationship that allowed the P5 + 1 and Iran to work through many difficult moments.

It is fitting that JK saved two modern day swift boats.

BEST SECRETARY OF STATE IN MY 65 year life

Botany

(70,578 posts)
39. +1 Kerry is the best S. of State in my lifetime too .... 58 years old
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jan 2016

The personal touch: Zarif, Kerry and 10 US sailors

Cool-headed diplomacy, personal contacts, ad homiem relations prevent potentially dangerous incidents
Cool-headed diplomacy

Trigger-happy politicians - both in the US and in Iran - could very easily escalate such incidents to dangerous levels especially when the regional powers have become incessantly divisive against their own best interests.

Cool-headed diplomacy, personal contacts, ad hominem relations - today evident between Kerry and Zarif - are the key factors preventing potentially dangerous incidents.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/01/personal-touch-zarif-kerry-10-sailors-160113073931498.html

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
32. Just curious
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jan 2016

If 10 Iranian sailors had accidently strayed onto Ocracoke Island, or some other U.S. island, would we have released them as quickly? Would we have demanded an explanation and apology from Iran?

roomtomove

(217 posts)
37. Not the whole story...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jan 2016

Bahrain and and Kuwait are on the west side of the gulf. Iran is on the east side. It would be extremely stupid for these guys to get close to the border. Either way I'm happy it was resolved. I didn't want Clinton to do an arms for hostages deal to get elected.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. What on earth are you babbling about?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

How would Hillary, who holds no position in the government right now - trade arms for hostages? Besides, I doubt very much she would do the same thing as Reagan did even if she were still SOS.

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