I notice she didn't call for any investigations when over 500 complaints were filed against around 1000 migrants went wilding in Germany. She's got enough problems in her own country with her immigrants - she's just trying to deflect from that. She obviously doesn't care one bit about dead Jews. Fuck her.

criticism so in vogue these days among European diplomats that somehow only ever seems to involve Israel.

deflect from their own problems. It's pathetic.

faint whiff of anti-semitism around many (if not most) of these selective criticisms. It's that taint that really gets my goat.

Very few care about anti-semitism these days. They ignore it while whining about imaginary Islamophobia. I'm on another thread about Norway teaching classes to the new immigrants - classes about treating women like human beings and not like punching bags and hookers. I can't believe it's 2016 sometimes.

and gone in black and white with the Nazis and irrelevant to today's issues. This also feeds into the 'who needs Israel' brigades that surface from time to time even here on DU.

but a few very loud voices of a very tiny minority of Democrats and Americans. They're irrelevant and do more harm to the Palestinian cause than Israel ever could. They've been telling the Palestinians for decades "just suffer for a little while longer, just stay in camps and starve and freeze and soon, very soon, Israel will be gone and you'll get what you want".

most of us just want a two state solution. You have no right to accuse people being conspiracy theorists when you say shit like that, but that is what Adelson's tabloids tell Israelis. Furthermore we have nothing to do with making them freeze and starve in camps. That is Israelis doing in its entirety.

you would be demanding they sit with the Israelis to work out an agreement instead of cheering for dead Israelis while your fellow traveler on this story says the Palestinians use pebbles and slingshots (what a fucking lie that is). You would also realize it's the Palestinian leadership that, for decades, has failed their people. They continually lied, stole the money, built tunnels and bought weapons rather than food and building hospitals. But no, keep blaming Israel. It has paid off such dividends so far. All of you hurt that cause far, far more than you help it.

how did Israelis destroy hospitals cut off food rations during their recent crackdowns. All you do with the money is hire bullshit artists to pose as Americans on anonymous websites.

And obviously they have all the food and hospitals and schools they need. All the Palestinians are highly educated, well fed and well taken care of so they can afford to waste the money on weapons and tunnels, right? And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about with your second sentence - I'm an American citizen with an opinion that differs from yours but is WAY more in line with the opinions of the VAST majority of Americans. You not liking that is entirely your problem. You're in a teeny minority (if you're American). Suck it up.

FWIW, I was #2

I really do appreciate it as I knew truth is like sunlight to a vampire to far too many here and knew I was risking someone alerting. I stopped caring about that long ago and although I've had many posts alerted, none have been hidden in over 6 months. I particularly enjoyed reading the jurors who called the alert paranoid and unbelievable. Your "wut" literally made me laugh out loud.

and real, but anti-Muslim sentiment is "imaginary".

Israel is a rogue state that has always been protected from the condemnation it has rightfully earned over the years, but not every state is so chummy with Israel's warmongers. And Israel's status as a war/apartheid state isn't because it's a Jewish state, but because of very specific acts that have earned it that designation.

There is a poster who called everyone who even believed the rapes and assaults occurred and those who have shown concern for the women in those countries Islamophobes so spare me your bullshit. Don't walk into the middle of a discussion you know nothing about. It makes you look foolish. Your feelings about Israel are meaningless to me but conflating Israel with all Jews shows me everything I need to know about you.

but stressed the exact opposite.

You're so ill-tempered and hot-headed that you didn't even bother to read what I said did you lol?

The German media hyped the image of darker-skinned invaders raping and sexually assaulting white women because they know it appeals to the racism lingering right below the surface of the water in their country. These aren't just Islamophobes, they're good old-fashioned racists.

HYPED THE IMAGE? So those assaults and rapes were imaginary? All 500 complaints were by racists conned by the media? I understand your meaning far, far too well.

and doesn't give 2 shits about dead Europeans and Americans. They are creating the refugee crisis by trying to overthow Assad. Their terror problems are caused by stealing from their neighbors not the Caliphate wanting to impose Islam on everyone.

and what does that have to do with this cretin trashing Israel and ignoring the problems right in her own country?

poster bought your conspiracy theory from that very dubious source. You should have learned your lesson there.

This is not something Israel is ashamed of. It was an official press release. Calling the Daily Mail a conspiracy site is pretty far fetched, and wrecks your credibility.

It's from the Daily Mail which is a well known piece of crap tabloid. Try again. Talk about losing credibility. Yours didn't start off well and now you cite a tabloid as an argument. I also want proof that Israel would let any paper embed with their troops (a charge I don't believe for even one second). You're looking more and more foolish.

the article was actually sympathetic, and came with video tape. They were still officially embedded with the Idf. The Brit tories are peas in a pod with likud and the israeli military.

and disgust for the US and Europe for also helping the rebels fight al assad? How far does your abject hypocrisy go in calling those helping the rebels isis sympathizers? I also don't believe for even one minute that you don't realize the Daily Mail is a tabloid - that's why you tried to trick people into believing that link went to a reputable paper.

overthrow Assad. I think it is really insane. I don't understand why Obama and his state department are keeping up this idiocy instead of going after Isis.

brutal dictator over religious freaks. That's some choice. And try to trash Israel at the same time using a tabloid article about a very humanitarian gesture. A trifecta of bullshit. Who do you think you're kidding?

They attribute all Syrian war deaths to Assad including those perpetrated by isis.

That al assad is some innocent little kitten who is simply misunderstood and lied about? Seriously, who the fuck do you think you're kidding with this crap. For the record, I don't care who wins that battle and fervently wish we would just stand back and let them kill each other. Both sides suck.

have fun arguing with the walls.

all the rebels with isis. I'm not the one trying to pass off a tabloid as a serious paper. But I guess it's all you have left. My work is done here.

Going after the Israelis for trying to save lives - not give them arms, not fight for them - just saving fucking lives. I guess like Donald Trump, you would rather just let them rot and die. Shame on you calling yourself a Democrat. And also, where is your condemnation and disgust for the US and Europeans as we're also helping rebels fighting assad? Just how much of a hypocrite are you?

It is very silly to give medical treatment to soldiers who openly want to kill your people and your allies. It helps them materially. It is called giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I have to question their motivation.

Take it up with the hippocratic oath. You trashing Israel when they're trying to do something decent says all I need to know about your bullshit.

there. The isis fighters wouldn't be in Israeli hospitals if the IDF wasn't shipping them there. I don't think helping isis, is a humanitarian gesture. It just exposes the fact that Israel and its representatives in America want to overthrow Assad at all costs even if helps create an Islamic Caliphate and exposes everyone to fundamentalist terror.

by conflating all the rebels fighting al assad with isis? Try pulling the other leg, it plays jingle bells.

and they admit in the article they want to kill Israelis and Americans.

They are helping people who perpetrated 9/11 and are also part of the isis coalition. Yes American and Israeli neocons support funding them as socalled "Syrian Moderates!" They want to overthow Assad, even if it helps achieve bin Laden's dream of an Islamic caliphate, and these terrorist perpetrate catastrophic terror against us, such as 9/11. and San Bernidino.

are isis and they committed 9/11. Keep it up, you'll get the conspiracy theory award for the year at this point. Really, really laughable.

wanted to kill israelis and americans. Maybe I would feel he was moderate, but why should I teach the little fuckers to lie better.

and making zero sense while doing so. Well done.

is not open to facts or reason. He/She seems as radical as some of the Israeli settlers you read about attacking Palestinians all the time so any facts you present are "conspiracy theories".

I've pointed out that Israel hasn't done anything to stop ISIS because Israel is so obsessed with getting rid of Assad they'd help anyone willing to fight (and it's obvious Israel only wants to fight enemies who are counterattacking with nothing more than slingshots and pebbles).

That poster is going after Israel for doing something humanitarian (and trying to fool people into believing the Daily Mail, a tabloid, is actually a reputable paper). I guess you also believe they should have just let those people rot and die and yet you call me radical. I'm sure you can understand when I say your opinion means nothing to me.

Slingshots and pebbles? More complete bullshit from someone who obviously doesn't care about dead Israelis or Jews. You couldn't have made it more clear. You've made your entire argument completely irrelevant with that bullshit.

your bullshit in saying Israel is helping ISIS fighters in the Golan out of humanitarian concerns when Israelis had no hesitation bombing the hell out of innocent doctors, their patients and everyone else inside hospitals in Gaza. Stop making excuses for Israel's questionable behavior in regards to ISIS because you're wrong and you can't defend what they're doing. Yes, they should let ISIS fighters rot and die as far as I'm concerned.

Since the almighty IDF kicks so much ass in the Middle East, why aren't they fighting ISIS? They aren't doing anything but sitting back watching everyone else fight and every now and then, like cowards, they launch an attack against the Syrian government when they think no one is looking. Come on IDF, go get in a real fight against enemies with real weapons and help the US out for a change!

Yeah right haha.

is pretty fucking humorous (because you hold no power, I can laugh at it). It think it's lovely how concerned you are about gaza - a strip of land Israel kicked their own people off of as a show of good faith and got thanked with thousands of rockets in return. How lovely of you to defend the terrorist hamas so vociferously. Maybe they'll kill you last for being a liberal.

That you don't realize that if Israel gets involved, all the Arab countries will pull back just shows your complete and utter ignorance of middle eastern politics. Again, entirely your problem but thankfully not all Americans are so deluded. If Israel got involved, you'd probably be the first to call them warmongers. But I see doctors doing their jobs is just too much for you to stomach. Again, that's your problem.

it doesn't do wars, the US does. Israel is good buddies with the whole Arab "anti-ISIS" coalition, so the idea that the Arab states would pull back if Israel got involved is simply another stupid excuse for doing nothing. Israel's former ambassador Michael Oren stated publicly that Israel would rather have ISIS win than Assad stay in power, but you're so fanatical that you'll dismiss that as conspiracy when you can look it up yourself.

You're hearing what you want to hear, and that is disturbing. I said absolutely nothing about Hamas, yet you're saying I'm defending Hamas. You have some issues with reading comprehension - your hatred and anger is literally causing the synapses to misfire in your head.

You were the one who brought up gaza and now you say you never brought up hamas. Who the fuck do you think is the government of gaza? Have you forgotten they voted in a terrorist organization? The US continually asks Israel not to get involved in the various conflicts in the middle east, they know it would muddy the waters. You want to assign the most nefarious motives so I couldn't possibly care less about your opinion. You ignore what's been happening since the 90s when it comes to the US asking Israel NOT to get involved. Fanatical? No - that would be those who consider rockets, guns and knives "slingshots and pebbles" (vomit). You have excluded yourself from rational argument by downplaying the violence Israeli's face every single day. You've made yourself irrelevant.

not to praise or comment on Hamas (who, like it or not, were chosen by the people living there to represent them) but to point out that your assertion that the Israeli military was assisting injured jihadists out of the kindness of their hearts and because their doctors are so ethical and adhering to the Hippocratic Oath that they'd even fight to save the lives of their "enemies". Israel didn't bother to worry about those humanitarian concerns when they were indiscriminately bombing Gaza, so your excuse for Israel helping ISIS militants is simply ridiculous and you know it.

Israel supposedly has one of the strongest militaries in the world, but they refuse to help fight international mercenaries butchering people right next door to them, not because we asked them not to, but because the jihadists are fighting to accomplish goals that Israel wants (getting rid of Assad and diminishing Iranian influence).

Why aren't they helping us fight Isis, instead of saving their lives? I am also completely baffled by the behavior of our political establishment on this issue.

don't get that the more extreme zionists dislike America and the rest of West as much as their middle eastern neighbors and they don't care whether the Al Qaeda terrorist hit us. Saudis secretly dislike us too.

They treat us like the big, rich mentally-challenged kid on the block who can beat up all the other kids if they want us to.

Vice President with disrespect, take our money, and snicker behind our backs. Sometimes in public actually: "Netanyahu Bragged He Has America Wrapped Around His Finger"

It has come full circle, and the U.S. and Israel, along with Saudi Arabia and Turkey have created this ISIS monster, and the refugee sutuation. Maybe we can call it Obama's war.

The chickens have come home to roost, in Paris, Germany, Sweden, and the U.S. it's a spectacular backfire of a strategy to create ISIS to get rid of Assad.

"ignoring the problems right in her own country?"

Possibly because criticism of concern's in ones own nation if often the domain of the Interior, rather than the Foreign minister.

And that's giving the benefit of the doubt to your allegation she has in fact, ignored the problem; as it seems we so often fail to see that which we have no relevant knowledge of if it validates our own biases.

Because heaven forbid the FOREIGN MINISTER get involved in assimilating all those refugees coming from elsewhere. I mean, what could she possibly know about those coming into her country being the FOREIGN MINISTER and all?

I'd love to see a whole lot of Americans stop kowtowing to Israel.

We're all terrorists. The only question is, "How well are we doing with our rehabilitation program?"

Those Israeli bullets fired in Palestine, those Saudi bombs dropped in Yemen, the drone shots in South Asia and East Africa: Who ultimately is responsible for those terrorist attacks?

We are, my friends.

Accusing others of crimes we're guilty of committing is just a thinly veiled attempt to avoid recognition of our own terrorist acts, terrorist character.

It's time to throw away the guns and the smart bombs and start taking care of the children, the old and infirm, and the planet, before it's too late.

The world is supposed to look the other way as the Israeli government commits genocide as it is stealing all the Palestinian land.

Does the fact of the Holocaust give Israel a free pass to build an apartheid state on the graves and land of dead Palestinians?

I was shocked at some of the reactions in this thread. Maybe Netanyahu has a DU account.

I wonder how long before this thread gets "locked". Getting super nasty.

people shout out "Islamophobe" to anyone who shows the least bit of concern over what is happening in Europe. Because it's used far too frequently, it has lost all meaning and people have stopped caring about risking being tagged with the charge - you can blame yourselves for that.

The endless war being waged by the US and Europe for control of oil resources in the Middle East is causing "blowback", to use the CIA term. The endless war, endless regime destabilization, are all being done to keep the Middle East fragmented and so that the US and European imperialists can continue to control the world's resources.

Does this excuse the terror that some people are waging in Europe? No, but it explains the motivations. Some people killed many people in Paris. The US military has been killing people in the Middle East since the first CIA directed coup in Iran to depose a democratically elected President, Mohammed Mossadegh in the 1950s. Mossadegh's sin was that he was nationalizing the oil in Iran and cutting out the US and European oil companies. For this he was killed.

While I blame myself , to use your words, for calling out people for their language, perhaps some of those people who are engaging in Islamophobic talk should do a bit more reading on the subject of the Middle East.

is far too many on the left whine about Islamophobia when anyone points out anything negative about the behavior of Muslim doing crap in the name of Islam. They say nothing about the behavior and immediately try and shut down the discussion by calling anyone who doesn't agree with them haters. Nobody here is blaming ALL Muslims for anything. Let's not pretend they are.

I will stand by my earlier comment about simplistic foolishness and hate speech disguised as political talk.

I have no idea why you would even bring that up unless you're trying to deflect and downplay the behavior I was discussing.

Actions have consequences is another way of stating it. And ignoring history is yet another mistake that many make.