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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:03 PM Jan 2016

Bill Clinton Questions Hillary's Super Tuesday Plan

Source: Politico

Bill Clinton, according to a source with firsthand knowledge of the situation, has been phoning campaign manager Robby Mook almost daily to express concerns about the campaign’s organization in the March voting states, which includes delegate bonanzas in Florida, Illinois, Ohio and Texas.

Many Clinton allies share the president’s desire for more organization on the ground; they see enthusiasm that’s ready to be channeled, but no channel yet in place. “Iowa matters a ton but it seems to be the campaign’s only focus," said one person close to the campaign's operations in a March state — one of nearly a dozen Clinton allies POLITICO spoke with for this article. "It’s going to be a long primary, and the campaign seems less prepared for it than they were in 2008.”




Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-super-tuesday-2016-election-218052

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Bill Clinton Questions Hillary's Super Tuesday Plan (Original Post) CoffeeCat Jan 2016 OP
Why have staff when it's going to be all over by then. Right? Right? nt thereismore Jan 2016 #1
Clinotns are smart: the GOP going help fund Sanders: Clintons need to fight lewebley3 Jan 2016 #3
I lift weights. pangaia Jan 2016 #5
bwahahahaha, pangaia roguevalley Jan 2016 #21
I didn't cheat. pangaia Jan 2016 #23
indeed. roguevalley Jan 2016 #24
Yeah. Real smart. Wilms Jan 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #8
Hillary voted for and supported the war. Wilms Jan 2016 #10
Huh???? Sanders supporters voted for Nader???? groundloop Jan 2016 #12
The GOP is funding the Sanders campaign? Earth_First Jan 2016 #7
Here you go Renew Deal Jan 2016 #31
your heading is asuhornets Jan 2016 #2
I wrote the EXACT headline of the article. What in the world are you talking about? CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #11
When you point one finger at someone else... FiveGoodMen Jan 2016 #17
Iowa, in this current race, has taken on monumental proportions. I'm not surprised to see an libdem4life Jan 2016 #4
That was the 2008 scenario Renew Deal Jan 2016 #30
Bernie already has a healthy and enthusiastic ground game in all of those states. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #9
Ohio organized without his input and has a huge number of people roguevalley Jan 2016 #22
...... daleanime Jan 2016 #26
They need to reclaim the theme song from the Pigman. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #34
I read that. I think Bobby Kennedy is the last one who had spontaneous offices open for him. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #39
I found an interesting tidbit. draa Jan 2016 #13
I don't know, but I found this while looking Gregorian Jan 2016 #14
Yeah, that's probably part of the same effort. draa Jan 2016 #15
Democrats have generally been supportive of the tech community and vice-versa. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #29
Yeah, but during the primary we want the tech people on our side. draa Jan 2016 #33
I have never understood why HRC's campaign has liberalhistorian Jan 2016 #16
Becuase DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #18
Ignoring Bill Clinton would be a massive mistake Renew Deal Jan 2016 #28
Very true, which is why I'm just shaking my liberalhistorian Jan 2016 #40
this one snippet explains it all DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #19
? I thought she had all the AA support already sewn up - LiberalElite Jan 2016 #36
The Shillarians are in full panic mode. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #20
ha! and the fan is on... nt hopemountain Jan 2016 #25
How could they be less prepared than 2008? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #27
The article says that Bernie has no staff in Ohio either. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #32
They've self-organized, without the campaign: LiberalElite Jan 2016 #37
It's almost as if they have never seen how to do it right. Egnever Jan 2016 #35
In addition to mismanagement, LiberalElite Jan 2016 #38
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
6. Yeah. Real smart.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

Helped to deliver the WH to Bush in 2000, voted for the Iraq War, lost in 2008, etc.

No thanks.

Response to Wilms (Reply #6)

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
10. Hillary voted for and supported the war.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

It's in the history books.

And yes, she wants to start a war with her "enemy", Iran.

Oh, and FL2000. You're really going to run with that? OK. But put down the scissors.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
31. Here you go
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jan 2016

This is a right wing source

"So I sent Bernie a donation and visited his campaign store, where my favorite bumper sticker was Vote for Bernie . . . you know you wanna!"

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420262/bernie-sanders-republicans-myra-adams

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
2. your heading is
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jan 2016

incorrect. I read the article. CoffeeCat you are trying to make it seems as if Bill Clinton is questioning his wife strategies....Not true. You are the desperate one.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. I wrote the EXACT headline of the article. What in the world are you talking about?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jan 2016

What headline do you see?

I'm looking directly at the article. "Bill Clinton Questions Hillary's Super Tuesday Plan"

Why is my heading incorrect? Please. Tell us all.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Iowa, in this current race, has taken on monumental proportions. I'm not surprised to see an
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

emphasis in excess, perhaps.

What has struck me, and I don't know for sure, but seems that as far as finances go, Bernie's "little donors" can pitch in many times, as the need arises. I'm not so sure how this works, but wonder how far HRC can go it getting additional funds when she's on the slide.

Much of her money, obviously came when she was "inevitable" so flowed relatively easily knowing the value after she was elected. But, now with things spinning out of control and larger sums perhaps needed? That may be what is concerning Bill as it should be.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
30. That was the 2008 scenario
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

And when money went dry she dipped into her personal funds. I'm not sure she's up for that this time around.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
22. Ohio organized without his input and has a huge number of people
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

showing up to work. On their own they did this. {{{OHIO!}}}

draa

(975 posts)
13. I found an interesting tidbit.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

The article claims her campaign has contacted 8 million people so far

Across the country, we’ve got more than 100,000 volunteers who have made more than 8 million voter contact attempts nationwide.



In an OP on DU yesterday it was said Sanders is contacting almost that many an hour due to coders building a new phone bank network.

I looked for it (don't remember who posted it) but couldn't find it. If anyone can find that OP would you please post it here. Thanks.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
14. I don't know, but I found this while looking
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016
http://time.com/4168802/bernie-sanders-canvassing-app/

They're on their game. I was trying to get a friend to make this very app, believe or not.

draa

(975 posts)
15. Yeah, that's probably part of the same effort.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

I know it was written in 2 weeks and it's never been seen before. It's supposed to greatly increase the amount of contacts that was possible under the old system. That Field The Bern is probably another aspect of what they've built. Incredible really.

Oh, thank god those coders are on side. They fricking rock.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
29. Democrats have generally been supportive of the tech community and vice-versa.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jan 2016

The only issue Dems run into is that the tech community is it has a libertarian streak in them. But they still mostly skew to our side.

draa

(975 posts)
33. Yeah, but during the primary we want the tech people on our side.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

That's what I meant. It's those blasted Millennials that were so bashed by her supporters. They suck so good.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
16. I have never understood why HRC's campaign has
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

ignored Bill Clinton's uber-successful campaign strategies for both the 2008 campaign and this one. You'd think they'd realize he knows what he's talking about and how to get it done. It must be frustrating as hell for those who understand that and can see what's happening (a repeat of 2008, perhaps even worse) but who are being ignored in favor of those who do the tired same-old same-old.

Of course, the campaign's sense of hubris and entitlement is even worse this time around than it was in 2008 and that's causing even more problems. Expecting and demanding a practical coronation not only does not endear you to voters and turns those voters off, it tends to make a campaign complacent, lacking in vision and strategy. Beyond frustrating.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
18. Becuase
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jan 2016

Debbie crashed the car in 2008 and is demanding to have a chance to prove she is not incomeptent again.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
28. Ignoring Bill Clinton would be a massive mistake
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

If he's in the room, chances are he's the most politically skilled person there.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
40. Very true, which is why I'm just shaking my
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:13 AM
Jan 2016

head at this campaign's not only repeating its mistakes of 2008, but making them even worse and listening even less. There are enough intelligent people in that campaign, you'd think that at least a few of them would recognize this and learned some lessons from '08, and a few others would be listening. Are they really that blinded by hubris and entitlement?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
19. this one snippet explains it all
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jan 2016

?The campaign's organization in Ohio is, so far, nonexistent — there are no campaign offices or staffers on the ground yet — and the Democratic front-runner needs all the support from big statewide African-American leadership that she can get, a local source said."

Excuse me, we know Ohio and Florida tend to be the purple states that flip the scales... WHY THE HELL was not not addressed? Does she expect to win without Ohio?

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
27. How could they be less prepared than 2008?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not sure that's possible. They weren't prepared at all.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
32. The article says that Bernie has no staff in Ohio either.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders’ campaign — which says it has hired 90 staffers in Super Tuesday states so far — is currently interviewing staffers for Ohio and said it plans to have them in place in the next 10 days.)

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
37. They've self-organized, without the campaign:
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ohios-not-waiting-bernie-sanders

snip
A group of forward-thinking activists and die-hard Bernie Sanders supporters began planning and raising funds in November. They reached out to local legislators and community leaders, formed a steering committee, secured a location and made all the necessary arrangments to have the location open 50 hours per week.

On January 9, all their hard work paid off as 200 people showed up to witness the office's grand opening. Senator Michael Skindell and Bernie Sanders spokesperson Nina Turner gave the keynote remarks.
snip

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
35. It's almost as if they have never seen how to do it right.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jan 2016

The Obama campaigns petty much laid out how a modern campaign should be run. One would think she would have paid attention to how she was beaten the last time.

This is the second time in a row she seemingly has badly mismanaged her campaign. It does not inspire confidence in her ability to govern.

I will vote for her in a new York minute over any of the clown car but once again she seems to be taking that vote for granted.

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