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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:40 PM Jan 2016

Clinton Seen as Winner in November; A Trump Presidency Inspires Anxiety (POLL)

Source: abcnews


Clinton Seen as Winner in November; A Trump Presidency Inspires Anxiety (POLL)

By CHAD KIEWIET DE JONGE

Jan 28, 2016, 7:00 AM ET

PHOTO: Hillary Clinton attends a rally in Marshalltown, Iowa, Jan. 26, 2016 and Donald Trump speaks during an event in Iowa City, Iowa on the same day.AP Photo
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Most Americans expect that Hillary Clinton would prevail against her leading GOP opponent in November, while Bernie Sanders’ chances are rated less well. The thought of Donald Trump as president inspires high levels of public anxiety.

A new ABC News/Washington Post poll also finds Americans divided about the need for a third party in this country – but not so divided about a potential independent run by Trump, should he fail to win the GOP nomination. Fewer than a quarter say they’d even consider voting for him as an independent candidate for president.

With Trump as the GOP nominee vs. Clinton, 54 percent of Americans say they’d expect Clinton to win; among registered voters (a more GOP-leaning group), Clinton has 52 percent support. Clinton’s seen by much wider margins as beating Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. Sanders, for his part, is seen as beating Cruz or Rubio – but potentially losing to Trump.




Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-winner-november-trump-presidency-inspires-anxiety-poll/story?id=36555715



umm...... now Sanders is LOSING to Trump--while Clinton wins up against TRUMP!









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Clinton Seen as Winner in November; A Trump Presidency Inspires Anxiety (POLL) (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2016 OP
Anxiety? Is that all? HassleCat Jan 2016 #1
Trumpolini will probably stage an "attempt on his life" at some point in the campaign. forest444 Jan 2016 #4
What I like about this . . . Gamecock Lefty Jan 2016 #2
I hope the DEM prez can find good candidates that can deceive Congress as NCjack Jan 2016 #5
Fucking panic is the proper response to a Trump presidency. nt hack89 Jan 2016 #3
Anxiety?! Bernin Jan 2016 #6
I would rather have Hillary's laugh than Sanders lectures and finger pointing. riversedge Jan 2016 #7
That's what people said when they elected Ronald Reagan over Jimmy Carter. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2016 #8
chuckle riversedge Jan 2016 #10
I would NOT. She annoys me greatly. 840high Jan 2016 #9
I would welcome it. Beacool Jan 2016 #22
k/r Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #11
re: "now Sanders is LOSING to Trump--while Clinton wins up against TRUMP!" thesquanderer Jan 2016 #12
It also asked "are you comfortable/anxious" with them as prez; Bernie wins moderates and liberals muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #16
meaning some are more comfortable w/Bernie, but sadly think that HRC will win (nt) thesquanderer Jan 2016 #18
Not exactly. They were asked "if the Dem/Rep were X and Y, who do you think would win?" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #20
I was speaking strictly about the general, not the primary. thesquanderer Jan 2016 #21
K&R! lunamagica Jan 2016 #13
I honestly don't know how this can be projected either way. Vinca Jan 2016 #14
That doesn't make sense. no_hypocrisy Jan 2016 #15
In terms of people's own thoughts, they would muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #17
1992 houston16revival Jan 2016 #19
K&R DesertRat Jan 2016 #23
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Anxiety? Is that all?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

Whew! Americans are pretty jaded, I guess. Trump better step up the rhetoric if he wants to inspire True Fear. Simple anxiety isn't going to do it for him.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
4. Trumpolini will probably stage an "attempt on his life" at some point in the campaign.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

The "assailant" will, of course, be either Mexican or Muslim.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
2. What I like about this . . .
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jan 2016

and while certainly being a Hillary supporter, we have two candidates that can beat the Republicans next fall. That is just awesome.

I can't say it enough - Supreme Court nominees. I'm sure either Hill or Bern will appoint ones to finally start swaying the Court back left.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. I hope the DEM prez can find good candidates that can deceive Congress as
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

effectively as nominee John Roberts did in his confirmation hearing. Otherwise, there will be no appointees for DEMs.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
12. re: "now Sanders is LOSING to Trump--while Clinton wins up against TRUMP!"
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jan 2016

No, this is not a poll of who people would vote for. It is an opinion about who they think would win, which is entirely different.

It is certainly possible that there are lots of people who would expect Clinton to beat Trump handily, not believing that as many people would vote for Sanders... even if they, themselves, would gladly vote for Sanders, and that would yield this result.

The key is to realize this survey has nothing to do with who the questioned people want to vote for, but rather, it is their feeling about who they think *other* people will vote for.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
16. It also asked "are you comfortable/anxious" with them as prez; Bernie wins moderates and liberals
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

compared to Hillary.



Which I think is very interesting. If Bernie couldn't capture a good amount of the centre, he'd have a problem in the general election. But this shows he has a realistic chance of doing well.

Both Democrats beat all 3 Republicans handily in the moderates, thankfully. Rubio does better than Cruz and far better than Trump.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
20. Not exactly. They were asked "if the Dem/Rep were X and Y, who do you think would win?"
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jan 2016

So they weren't asked who they thought would win the Dem primary (nor who they wanted to win it).

You might read this as saying they think Hillary and her campaign will do a better job in winning the election than Bernie and his. And that may be why, although Trump worries all groups (liberal, moderate or conservative) more as a president, they think he'd do better in an election against either Dem than Rubio or Cruz would. They're saying Clinton and Trump has the most formidable general election campaign on each side. Though I suppose you could also expect from that that they think Clinton's primary campaign would also be better than Sanders'.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
21. I was speaking strictly about the general, not the primary.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

A greater percentage of them are more comfortable with the idea of Sanders for president (and therefore, would presumably actually vote for him in November if they had the chance, i.e. if he were the nominee), but they (disappointingly) think Clinton is actually going to be the nominee (and eventual victor). And if by some chance Bernie were the nominee, some are less confident in his ability to win in November, even though they personally prefer him. And that could supress some primary/caucus voting for him, which is why he has to keep getting the word out that actual polls of what people will do (as opposed to what people think OTHER people will do) show that he generally wins in November more handily than Hillary does.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
14. I honestly don't know how this can be projected either way.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jan 2016

If Hillary is the nominee, there might be a turnout like a midterm election . . . or not. Hillary might attract Republican voters if Trump is their nominee . . . or not. This is the strangest election in modern history and I think this should be viewed as what it is: a guess.

no_hypocrisy

(46,119 posts)
15. That doesn't make sense.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jan 2016

If the anxiety is so high with the prospect of a President Trump, why wouldn't the same fear propel Bernie Sanders into the White House?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
17. In terms of people's own thoughts, they would
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

But in this poll, people are saying they think other people will support Trump more. If you look at the table I posted in #16, people are more comfortable with Sanders, and least anxious about him (and the same goes among 'moderates', who are most likely to be swing voters; and there's less anxiety about Sanders among conservatives, so they may not be so motivated to turn out against him).

People are saying they don't like Trump, but they think enough people in the country do. I can understand them saying that, given the media coverage.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
19. 1992
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

Bush I was so unpopular that while Clinton-Gore campaigned everywhere
vigorously, Bush was so unpopular due to recession and S&L scandal that
Dems never really had to take risks with positions, policy, demographics.

Hillary Clinton may encounter such a moment again.

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