Ammon Bundy lawyers challenge decision to keep him jailed
Source: AP
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) Lawyers for the leader of the armed standoff at an Oregon wildlife refuge have appealed a judge's decision to keep him in jail pending trial.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Stacie Beckerman said Ammon Bundy presents a danger to the community and the Idaho resident might fail to return for future court proceedings.
Bundy's lawyers said in documents filed Sunday that their client should be released with a GPS monitoring device and orders he not leave Idaho except for court appearances.
U.S. District Court Judge Michael W. Mosman is expected to hear the matter Tuesday, when he also considers the government's challenge of the release of another member of the armed group, Joseph O'Shaughnessy.
This photo provided by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2016, shows Ammon Bundy, one of the members of an armed group occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as part of a dispute over public lands in the Western U.S. Bundy and several others were arrested on Tuesday, Jan. 26, prompting gunfire and leaving one man dead during a traffic stop along a highway in Oregon's frozen high country. (Multnomah County Sheriff via AP)
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jmowreader
(50,560 posts)If we turned you loose, you'd probably flee to Mexico and we'd never see you again.
William Seger
(10,779 posts)All of them need to be held without bond because they are a danger to the community AND to themselves.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)That in and of itself shows that he's a flight risk, and let's not forget his constant calls for armed conflict if necessary!
Let him out and he'll run to his father's ranch in Nevada, and will refuse to appear in court!!! Then what?
Leave his ass in jail, where his actions can be monitored!
I wonder how he's paying his lawyers...maybe daddy is using that $2 million he owes the US taxpayers?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)a type of Go Fund Me. Funding Goal is $100,000 by Feb 27. So far they have $9,996 and 151 supporters. I'm sure they expected more at this point.
https://www.fundedjustice.com/en/projects/28054-Ammon-Bundy---Legal-Defense-Fund
wordpix
(18,652 posts)so much for their armed insurrection
atreides1
(16,079 posts)That means if this little ploy to get him released doesn't pan out, and his "supporters" don't cough up more cash, he'll be getting some court appointed attorneys...I hope!!!
Nothing like being defended in court by overworked public defenders....
christx30
(6,241 posts)for the defense of this brave patriot.
randome
(34,845 posts)Imagine a dozen -no, a hundred- free-range citizens waving brightly colored dildos into a star-flecked sky in support of these manliest of men! Oh...ohhh....ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
cstanleytech
(26,295 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)This is all one needs to know to not allow him out for a second.
SamKnause
(13,108 posts)jpak
(41,758 posts)yup
Because he's clearly too dangerous to be kept on the US mainland. He'll recruit other inmates to his terrorist cause.
And I'm only half-kidding.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)he needs to stay...in jail.
randome
(34,845 posts)...if Ammon was allowed back onto that stupid ranch and the feds tried to get him to keep his court date.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And not have taken his trouble and his issues into Oregon.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Just relocating him and his cronies from the Refuge to a Prison - it's still a federal building! At least now he won't have to beg for snacks.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
marble falls
(57,106 posts)with BLM possibly be? Bond him? I'll book him: iiiiiiiiif he get's bail, I make it 3:1 he'll be in another confrontation within six months of getting sprung.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts).... when they talk about returning to our Constitutional freedoms or President Obama's
unconstitutional actions w/excutive orders exactly where and when these things happened?
I saw 30 seconds of the GOP debate and I heard Rubio talking about Obama's unconstitutional
actions and i wanted to scream that he taught Constitutional Law @ the University of Chicago
and after checking with some smart people here at DU article 2 section 1 of the US Constitution
grants the President the power to issue executive orders.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017325784 15 seconds into the video.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)These people need a rude awakening that the sheriff isn't the supreme law of the land.
pamela
(3,469 posts)All the mug shots from that night have that seal in the corner.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,577 posts)for lawyers high powered enough to minimize the impact to him, of his actions. If not, I wonder who is paying? We should find out....
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
Wernothelpless
(410 posts)"If you wish in one hand and sh*& in the other which one do you think will fill up first." ....
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)An advocate is supposed to... advocate.
-- Mal
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the guy has already demonstrated that he has no respect for the rule of law and is willing to act outside of laws he does not agree with ... what would make a court think he will follow the courts orders when he is looking at decades in prison?
jomin41
(559 posts)that they were probably "home-schooled" poorly, or otherwise educationally abused from before they could understand what was happening. It seems like a cult situation. This world is confusing enough for those of us lucky enough to get a decent education (thanks Mom and Dad). I can't imagine what it must seem like for people confined to this narrow ideology all their lives, to try to come to grips with the real world. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not condoning or excusing or defending what they did. Not at all. But watching these people make fools of themselves day after day, their frustration and confusion and childish pronouncements made me realize what a perilous state our education system is in. That is, in addition to the daily display of campaign stupidity accepted by a scary percentage of the population. (Hello, Trumpees). The problem is a lot bigger than these guys.
I stopped laughing at these poor bastards a couple weeks ago. They are going to be intimately involved with the government they hate for a long, long time, one way or another.
But the rest of are going to have to deal with the increasing numbers of poorly-educated and even uneducated people in the country. They cost society a lot. They hold our whole society back. Schools Not Prisons! Go Bernie!