Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
41 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
CNN: Official Iowa Results Will Not Be Announced Till Tomorrow (Original Post) big_dog Feb 2016 OP
But HRC was supposed to thump him. after all, he isn't even a Democrat Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #1
this is the ref saving Apollo Creed at the bell in Rocky I big_dog Feb 2016 #5
Didn't the Hillary Team Declare a Win Tonight.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #6
its happened before big_dog Feb 2016 #9
No she didn't. She was quite gracious and just talked about the work ahead. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #15
It was posted on DU that she did. 840high Feb 2016 #16
Please let there just not be some mysterious computer crash in the wee hours. snot Feb 2016 #2
There are billions at stake with the difference between Hillary and Bernie. I don't trust the DNC trillion Feb 2016 #12
Bernie has done really well. jalan48 Feb 2016 #3
Exactly!!! LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #8
True very true. Maybe there will be time for people to wake up now. trillion Feb 2016 #13
She's a conservative. jalan48 Feb 2016 #14
She's a progressive. That is why the right wing smear machine has been attacking her for 30 years. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #17
LOL! jalan48 Feb 2016 #19
Like any accomplished person, she gets large speaking fees. That does not make her a conservative. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #25
No, she is not a progressive in any 2016 sense. Maybe in 1990 she would be considered progressive. trillion Feb 2016 #20
She did NOT "come out against universal health care." She absolutely supports it. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #23
Wrong, I lived it. I watched her and pelosi give the dems lip service and vote with the repubs over trillion Feb 2016 #24
What you "lived" does not equate with reality. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #26
Wow. The Reality is out there if you'd open your eyes. trillion Feb 2016 #28
Hillary Clinton Was the 11th Most Liberal Member of the Senate SunSeeker Feb 2016 #33
And I'm the Queen of Romania. countmyvote4real Feb 2016 #36
She does not want to keep the status quo. She wants to improve on Obama's successes. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #37
+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #18
Bernie's speech was one class act! It's go me fired up!!!! n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #4
Bernie started this race as an underdog elmac Feb 2016 #7
Good poem! trillion Feb 2016 #39
According to the NY Times website it's currently jalan48 Feb 2016 #10
Well tomorrow is about a half hour from now, Iowa time.... n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #11
whoever wins i hope we all come togethr President Cruz is not good or Rubio vadermike Feb 2016 #21
Or any Republican at this point. They've went waaay far to the racists and christofascist right. trillion Feb 2016 #32
50 50 from CNN right now tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #22
.2 difference, fwiw. JudyM Feb 2016 #27
the outcome then decided by coin tosses I presume tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #29
Ha, yep, so we are led to believe. JudyM Feb 2016 #30
99% now in big_dog Feb 2016 #34
Still close, just not as much of a squeaker. JudyM Feb 2016 #35
It would be annoying if MOM turned out truthisfreedom Feb 2016 #38
Remember this one?:Clinton Iowa Volunteers Train When To Push Backers To O’Malley — To Block Bernie mpcamb Feb 2016 #41
The only thing good about cruz is he beat trump. After that it's really really bad. trillion Feb 2016 #31
Does this mean I have to be afraid to go to bed? Matariki Feb 2016 #40
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
5. this is the ref saving Apollo Creed at the bell in Rocky I
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:17 AM
Feb 2016

same thing happened with Mittens Romney and Sanitorium last time, three weeks later they decided and everyone had moved on

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. Didn't the Hillary Team Declare a Win Tonight....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:19 AM
Feb 2016

How many ways can one say OOPS....Not so Fast!!

#GotBerniesBack So Proud of Bernie Tonight!!

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
12. There are billions at stake with the difference between Hillary and Bernie. I don't trust the DNC
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

which is bought by Wallstreet and insurance.

jalan48

(13,884 posts)
3. Bernie has done really well.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

He can't be ignored by the corporate media anymore. Who would have thought this would have happened six months, or even 3 months ago?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
8. Exactly!!!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie had what like 10% in Iowa in July 2015..... So YES, he cannot be ignored by the Brought, Sold and Backwards Corporate Media anymore. America has #GotBerniesBack!

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
13. True very true. Maybe there will be time for people to wake up now.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:38 AM
Feb 2016

Of course anyone who missed Hillary in Congress and her voting record is not going to wake up.

jalan48

(13,884 posts)
14. She's a conservative.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:41 AM
Feb 2016

I'm shocked at how many conservative Democrats there are. I could see it if we'd had 30 years of socialism. But it's just the opposite-we've had 30 years of Reagan's right wing policies.

SunSeeker

(51,698 posts)
25. Like any accomplished person, she gets large speaking fees. That does not make her a conservative.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:05 AM
Feb 2016

Much of her speaking fees went to the Clinton Foundation to help the poor around the world.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
20. No, she is not a progressive in any 2016 sense. Maybe in 1990 she would be considered progressive.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

When she came out against universal health care ya think ya would have noticed. Bernie is a progressive. Those two are on different sides of the aisle. Her lip service has only been to try to get progressives to believe she's one of them - steal Bernies voters. And look, a whole bunch people who call themselves dems actually bought it after her record. Wow. I'll put up with her being called a dem, but progressive is way wrong.

Btw, a progressive is against wallstreet running us, pro univeral health care, against wrecking the climate, pro free education including college, against the trans pacific partnership, against the pipeline, etc. etc. And they are against SUPER PACS

Can you please tell me what you think a progressive is?

SunSeeker

(51,698 posts)
23. She did NOT "come out against universal health care." She absolutely supports it.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:02 AM
Feb 2016

She just thinks the most likely way we will get there is to improve upon the ACA instead of scrapping it and trying to get single payer. Not every country who has universal health care does it via single payer. She did not vote with the Republicans "over and over." She had one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
24. Wrong, I lived it. I watched her and pelosi give the dems lip service and vote with the repubs over
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:04 AM
Feb 2016

and over. She has a disasterous record in the Senate.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
28. Wow. The Reality is out there if you'd open your eyes.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:13 AM
Feb 2016

Here's a site, but there are so many. I had a feeling people supporting Hillary weren't informed on her senate voting record. Either that or they like wallstreet and war a whole lot.

Bernie has a way more liberal than Hillaries. I'm finding a site that isn't bought hillary.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/08/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-now-opposes-trans-pacific-partners/

https://www.propublica.org/article/hillary-clinton-mixed-record-on-wall-street-tough-cut-it-out-talk

I could keep going but it's not worth my time. I don't think it matter with you.

 

countmyvote4real

(4,023 posts)
36. And I'm the Queen of Romania.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:42 AM
Feb 2016

Not.

If HRC is truly progressive nowadays, she like Bernie would want to progress our healthcare to medicare for all rather than adamantly keeping the status quo.

It's true that the Clintons have been attacked ever since they entered national politics, but much of that was of their own making and shenanigans rather than their progressive policies.

SunSeeker

(51,698 posts)
37. She does not want to keep the status quo. She wants to improve on Obama's successes.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:56 AM
Feb 2016

Both Hillary and Sanders want universal healthcare, but Hillary knows we are more likely to get there with expansions to the ACA, rather than scrapping it and continuing a quixotic fight for single payer.

And no, the right wing attack machine was not justified by anything Hillary did.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. Bernie started this race as an underdog
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

when fascists in this world appear
and break the laws that they should fear
and frighten all who see or hear
the cry goes up both far and near
for Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
fighting all who rob or plunder
Bernie! Bernie!

when in this world the headlines read
of those whose hearts are filled with greed
who rob and steal from those who need
to right this wrong with blinding speed
goes Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
fighting all who rob or plunder
Bernie. Bernie!

jalan48

(13,884 posts)
10. According to the NY Times website it's currently
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary 669

Bernie 666

OM 8

96% of precincts reporting.



Looks like the OM supporters will determine the winner if I understand the process correctly. So there will be some arm twisting tonight before the official results are issued tomorrow?

JudyM

(29,277 posts)
27. .2 difference, fwiw.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:12 AM
Feb 2016

Right now, with 98% reporting:

IOWA CAUCUS 2016
ALL RESULTS

CLINTON
49.8%

SANDERS
49.6%

O'MALLEY
0.6%


https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
34. 99% now in
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:09 AM
Feb 2016

owa caucus | Results 

99.46% reporting









Candidates

% Delegate Strength




Hillary Clinton

49.86%



Bernie Sanders

49.57%



Martin O'Malley

0.57%

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»CNN: Official Iowa Result...