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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 06:19 AM Jun 2012

Ad Astra Rocket Company & NASA Sign Agreement on VASIMR Payload Safety & Reliability Support

Source: SpaceRef

Ad Astra Rocket Company and NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC) have signed a Support Agreement (Annex 6) to collaborate on aspects of safety, reliability and mission assurance related to the development of VASIMR(R) technology. As the Agreement reads, the parties will:

"...work together to examine, understand, and document the safety and reliability aspects of the VASIMR(R) technology and develop a design approach for the flight system that conforms to accepted NASA safety, reliability and mission assurance best practices."

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Among its most significant elements, this Annex provides:

1. Familiarization of JSC S&MA personnel with the unique characteristics, behavior, physics and engineering of high power plasma rockets such as VASIMR(R), focusing on those aspects of the technology that will have a bearing on safety, reliability and mission assurance as the technology is matured to flight readiness;

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The Annex defines a period of 1.5 years for completion of all the tasks, beginning in June, 2012 and ending in December of 2013.

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Read more: http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=37272



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spin

(17,493 posts)
1. Sounds like a possibly worthwhile enterprise to me...
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 07:36 AM
Jun 2012

I see hope in a combination of NASA and civilian companies in the future exploration of space.

I was 23 years old when the first manned mission landed on the moon in 1969. At that time I expected that we would have a base on the moon or would have have succeeded in landing astronauts on Mars by now.



malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
2. I frankly could care less about a base on Mars...
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jun 2012

Okay as a byproduct, not as an end-in-itself. But I consider it a travesty that over 40 years since the Lunar landings, we don't have a base there and are not exploiting the moon and the asteroid belt for necessary raw materials, especially given the inevitable exhaustion of non-renewables on Earth.

Which I suppose leaves me open to accusations of being a Capitalist. But actually, of course, I'm just a Malthusian.

-- Mal

spin

(17,493 posts)
5. If there is a profit to be made by putting a base on the moon ...
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:09 PM
Jun 2012

or mining the asteroid belt, Capitalists may be a better choice than a government agency to run the program.

A government agency has a budget set by politicians and going to the moon again doesn't seem to be a high priority issue with voters.

Of course there is always a possibility of another space race.

China's drive to the moon a strategic challenge to the United States
December 30, 2011

According to the UK Telegraph, the Chinese government has released a white paper laying out its space plans for the next five years. In a document that describes China’s plan to build a manned space station and to continue robotic exploration of the Moon, the Beijing government also announced its intentions to plan a manned lunar landing to take place sometime after 2020.

Taylor Dinerman, an analyst for the Hudson Institute, suggested a reason for China’s drive to the Moon and why it might be a danger for the United States.

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“NASA's relationship with the Moon is the key to understanding its institutional bias. This is not simply due to nostalgia for the glory days of Apollo, but is based on an understanding of the strategic "geography" of the solar system. Our planet's satellite, thanks to its position and its small size, makes it an ideal base from which to explore the solar system, and, if necessary, to dominate the Earth. It has been described as a ‘Gibraltar Point’ possession, which entails control over access to and from the surface of the Earth to the rest of our celestial neighborhood. Neither the US nor anyone else has plans, at present, to build military bases on the Moon, but that may change. A US civilian base on the Moon would be a strong deterrent to such a development.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/china-s-drive-to-the-moon-a-strategic-challenge-to-the-united-states


I would rather see Capitalists run space exploration programs than the military industrial complex.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
6. Kind of hard to tell the two apart, though
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jun 2012

If the capitalists were real Adam Smith capitalists -- people who actually did have the welfare of others in consideration, and not just profits -- then it would be a Good Thing. That's the stuff of much of the moon/solar system science fiction of the past couple of generations. Unfortunately, I think the Adam Smith capitalists are a dying breed.

I don't see how a civilian base would be a deterrent to military bases. Unless the human race undergoes an immense change in attitudes some day, wherever we go, we're gonna take our guns along.

-- Mal

spin

(17,493 posts)
7. I agree that a civilian base on the moon would not be a deterrent ...
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jun 2012

to another nation establishing a military base.

I can only hope the exploration of space will be peaceful and benefit mankind. If our species ever has any hope of traveling to the stars, we have to overcome our innate aggression. I feel that currently we face the biggest test for any developing civilization. In order to visit the near planets in our solar system, let alone to journey to other stars we have to have a high level of technology. We also have to be able to use our technology responsibly and not destroy ourselves.

There is a possibility that other spacefaring civilizations are watching us with interest. Once we pass the test I described, they might welcome us. At this point in our development we may merely be an interesting study for alien anthropologists.



malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
8. Yeah, I've always considered that the simple answer to Fermi's Paradox.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jun 2012

It's just a shade hubristic for us to assume that any alien civilizations (should they exist) would be oh-so-eager to open communications with us at this point. I've often toyed with the idea that we're just some research outpost of the Galactic Overlords, and that the few unexplained UFO sightings are simply the result of boredom, high jinks, or stupidity on the part of some grad students in xenoanthropology.

It's a simple equation, anyway -- if we want the human race to survive beyond the next few years, we better get off the damned planet. This one is going down the toilet sooner or later.

-- Mal

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. It's a good thing.
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jun 2012

One of the first uses will be on the ISS for station-keeping. This will reduce the amount of fuel that has to be sent up.

It's also a first step towards fusion propulsion.

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