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Judi Lynn

(160,598 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:35 PM Feb 2016

Jailed Oregon occupation leader calls for elected officials' support

Source: Reuters

Jailed Oregon occupation leader calls for elected officials' support

Reuters

1 hour ago

(Reuters) - The jailed leader of the occupation of a U.S. wildlife refuge in Oregon, in a statement released on Monday, called on elected officials from mostly Western states to voice support for free speech and civil disobedience and to visit their constituents in federal custody.

"It is your duty to hold federal agencies at bay, protecting the people in your state," said Ammon Bundy, according to the transcript of a telephone call he made on Saturday from jail and released by one of his lawyers.

Bundy also urged elected representatives in Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, Washington state and Ohio to support the right to assemble.

Bundy and 10 others were arrested in Oregon in late January, most of them during a confrontation with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and state police on a roadside where a spokesman for the group, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, was fatally shot. A 12th member of the group turned himself in to police in Arizona.



Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/jailed-oregon-occupation-leader-calls-elected-officials-support-200235739.html

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Jailed Oregon occupation leader calls for elected officials' support (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2016 OP
Ohio releases statement "Hey hey whoa whoa don't get us into this!" underpants Feb 2016 #1
Ohio is already in it, the current 'leader' at the refuge is from Ohio, David 'Buckeye' Fry Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #12
The Bundys are not bright. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2016 #2
Are they related to Al Bundy? I sort of liked him. olddad56 Feb 2016 #15
This man is certifiable! atreides1 Feb 2016 #3
If you read the Salt Lake Tribune today, Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #4
Do you have any links handy? CanonRay Feb 2016 #17
Salt lake Tribune.com. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #18
I do believe there is some big money behind all this. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #22
Rolly names names in yesterday's Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #23
hey it's just fine to break the laws but since cops have the thing down pat if your not white, and t PatrynXX Feb 2016 #5
I don't usually answer mail from convicts ffr Feb 2016 #6
This is the tack his defense attorneys are taking; it was/is just a peaceful protest. Shrike47 Feb 2016 #7
Response to Ammon Bundy: The land that you want is owned by the U.S. Government. That makes NCjack Feb 2016 #8
K&R ffr Feb 2016 #10
amen Cryptoad Feb 2016 #11
I thought Bundy only recognized the local Sheriff as top dog ffr Feb 2016 #9
Eh the local sheriff didn't knuckle under so he went sheriff shopping to Grant County. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #21
The Latest: Nevada lawmaker to support Oregon occupiers Eugene Feb 2016 #13
Oh good jmowreader Feb 2016 #14
+1. nt AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2016 #16
go contact your good old boy buddies who have let you wefare ranchers squat on public lands for deca Sunlei Feb 2016 #19
Right to assemble does not cover taking over a federal building, Ammon. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #20

underpants

(182,866 posts)
1. Ohio releases statement "Hey hey whoa whoa don't get us into this!"
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe Ammon is trying to pull a Hans Gruber ("Die Hard&quot

"Ohio?"
"I heard about them on '60 Minutes'"

atreides1

(16,090 posts)
3. This man is certifiable!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

This wasn't "civil disobedience" this was an attempt at armed confrontation! And was making all kinds of statements during his little tantrum...the fact that he's calling for elected leaders to support his stupidity, shows that his right to free speech still hasn't been violated!

He could have made his point without trespassing, and he has right to assemble...as long as he abides by the law...which he didn't!!!



I'll bet Bundy and Finicum were going to go down fighting, only Bundy forgot to tell his buddy Lavoy that he changed his mind.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. If you read the Salt Lake Tribune today,
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

you will see the genesis of what is really going on. Read the Comments for a names and places so to speak. This is a part and parcel of a well funded Political Campaign by certain Republican operatives and financed in part by Koch Industries with the tacit support via the Largest Church in Utah.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
22. I do believe there is some big money behind all this.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:15 PM
Feb 2016

There are a bunch of Western states who have enacted Public Land Transfer Acts. It all seems to be a coordinated attempt to pressure Congress into selling off federal land to states and private interests. One goal is to use the land sales to pay down federal debt and the other goal is to put large areas of the west into private ownership by large timber, energy and mining interests. This would fit right into the plans of the Koch brothers so they are indeed the prime suspects. If the Feds dig deeply enough I believe they will find that the Bundys have some big financial backers - probably the Koch brothers although that will be very difficult to prove. I am sure they covered their tracks well. I doubt that the Bundys even know where the money came from.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
23. Rolly names names in yesterday's
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

paper. And yes,Koch Brothers is one,and the use of Dark Pools to fund so called non profits which are funding other so called front groups. It is common knowledge among certain groups who use Federal Land for recreation. If you ask the right questions and do a bit of digging,bingo,takes time,there so many shell companies and so many dead ends,but,someone will find the source.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
5. hey it's just fine to break the laws but since cops have the thing down pat if your not white, and t
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Feb 2016

they bring out the big guns when there aren't any on the protesters what do you think they'll do here. civil disobedience means you have to face up your FREE SPEECH responsibility this shouldn't be Anarchy rules..

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
7. This is the tack his defense attorneys are taking; it was/is just a peaceful protest.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

Not while wearing guns, dudes, and screening who can enter the refuge. Then it's war.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
8. Response to Ammon Bundy: The land that you want is owned by the U.S. Government. That makes
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

me a fractional owner. I do not want to sell. The Federal Agencies opposing you are working in part for me. I want them to evict you. The U.S. Constitution gives you the right to pursue happiness, but not by grabbing USG land. I want you pursuing that happiness elsewhere -- off of USG land. Because you have become a problem lessee, I want you permanently prohibited from every again leasing USG grazing land. Regret that I can not find canned pinto beans w/garlic to send to the bandito camp. But, that meal is served in our better Federal prisons.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
9. I thought Bundy only recognized the local Sheriff as top dog
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:37 PM
Feb 2016

What's all this cowtowing down to "elected officials?" Bundy and his bunch are Posse Comitatus followers, which doesn't recognize ANY authority above the local sheriff.




yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
21. Eh the local sheriff didn't knuckle under so he went sheriff shopping to Grant County.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

Unfortunately for him the Feds had other ideas. Since that didn't work out he has decided, well maybe elected officials do have a role to play. Ammon is not known for his clarity as to just what it is that he believes. Pretty much making it up as he goes along. Well he will have some time to bone up on his civics anyway. Buh bye Ammon. See you in 5-10.

Eugene

(61,938 posts)
13. The Latest: Nevada lawmaker to support Oregon occupiers
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

Source: Associated Press

FEBRUARY 8, 2016 7:06 PM

The Latest: Nevada lawmaker to support Oregon occupiers

The Associated Press

PORTLAND, ORE. - The Latest on an armed group that took over buildings at a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon (all times local):

4:55 p.m.

A Nevada state lawmaker says she will travel to Portland, Oregon, this week to protest the jailing of members of an armed group that took over a national wildlife refuge.

Michelle Fiore, a Republican state Assembly member from Las Vegas and an outspoken gun rights advocate, told The Associated Press she plans to fly to Portland on Wednesday ahead of a Thursday meeting involving lawmakers from several states who are members of a group called the Coalition of Western States. The group opposes federal management of Western lands.

Fiore says the people jailed for seizing the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon, last month were "exercising political free speech."

The jailed leader of the standoff had earlier called on elected officials to support his cause. Ammon Bundy is among 16 people who have been indicted on charges of conspiracy to interfere with federal workers.

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Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article59192563.html

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
14. Oh good
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

Let's declare Michele Fiore in "material support" of the Bundy gang and put her in the next cell down.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. go contact your good old boy buddies who have let you wefare ranchers squat on public lands for deca
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

DECADES. Maybe they will pass the hat and bail you out.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
20. Right to assemble does not cover taking over a federal building, Ammon.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

Poor man still thinks he is in charge and can order people around.

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