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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:54 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton unveils ‘economic revitalization plan’ during Denmark town hall

Source: Post and Courier




Hillary Clinton unveils ‘economic revitalization plan’ during Denmark town hall

Maya T. Prabhu Email @MayaTPrabhu


Feb 12 2016 12:03 pm Feb 12 6:57 pm

DENMARK —
More than 400 supporters enthusiastically welcomed the Democratic presidential candidate to Denmark-Olar Elementary School where ....................

While at the school Clinton unveiled a $125 billion economic revitalization plan she said would target “America’s under-served communities.”

“I am going to go after every single barrier that stands in the way of what Americans can do,” she said. “And that starts with a very specific agenda, and I wanted to come here to Denmark to roll this agenda out.”
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Clinton’s plan, which targets communities such as Bamberg County, includes $50 billion to create new jobs and $20 billion for programs designed to put young unemployed people back to work.

She described the effort as based on a similar initiative proposed by U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., which takes 10 percent of the money that would be spent on infrastructure and allots it to the 20 percent of communities that have lived with continued poverty rates for more than 30 years.

The plan is the first part of Clinton’s larger “Breaking Every Barrier Agenda,” which her campaign focuses on closing the education achievement gap, dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline and fighting for environmental justice, among other provisions. .................................
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Read more: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160212/PC1603/160219764/






Hillary for SC ?@HillaryforSC 4h4 hours ago

.@Bakari_Sellers introducing the Town Hall:






Hillary for SC ?@HillaryforSC 5h5 hours ago

Bamberg Co. is lined up to hear Hillary Clinton talk about how to address inequities in the Corridor of Opportunity.






Hillary for SC Retweeted
Jack Miller ?@politicalmiller 11h11 hours ago

Clinton tackles issues head-on! She fights for families & all South Carolinians @HillaryforSC #ImWithHer #SCPrimary






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Hillary Clinton unveils ‘economic revitalization plan’ during Denmark town hall (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2016 OP
What is houston16revival Feb 2016 #1
Where I lived it went like this. Igel Feb 2016 #8
"What is environmental justice, exactly?" Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #10
MOCKING towns and the people that are affected by evironmental INjustice is shameful!! riversedge Feb 2016 #25
LOL!!! Did you HONESTLY expect that to work? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #37
I really do not expect your mocking to work. bye. riversedge Feb 2016 #40
It's part of my charm. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #41
$125 billion....Ooooooo, that's pricey.... paleotn Feb 2016 #2
Corporate sponsorship, obviously! Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #4
And the Pharma & Banking Industry. Brought to you on the backs of... Kittycat Feb 2016 #6
God damn. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #7
while we're talking Big Pharma/Insurance fantasy numbers wordpix Feb 2016 #46
Well that's... umm... smaller. Fearless Feb 2016 #3
A Start would be bring back community block grants... Historic NY Feb 2016 #5
What makes you think she cares about the 99%? Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #12
What make you a expert? Historic NY Feb 2016 #15
LOL. Pandering and unrealistic when Sanders says it, but not when Hill says it? Bonobo Feb 2016 #9
This project is specific to a target area. Details are important rather than Sanders broad riversedge Feb 2016 #22
Agreed. She knows what she is doing and how it will be paid for. pandr32 Feb 2016 #23
And how exactly will this get paid for? paleotn Feb 2016 #31
you get a heart for asking this question. :-) secondwind Feb 2016 #33
Thank you kindly. : -) paleotn Feb 2016 #50
I guess you haven't bothered to listen to her, or know her history pandr32 Feb 2016 #35
Let me clue you in on something.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #38
Oh, I know her history quite well.... paleotn Feb 2016 #49
You still didn't answer my question, riversedge.... paleotn Feb 2016 #30
Read my answer above pandr32 Feb 2016 #36
Great post, nice photographs - thanks! George II Feb 2016 #11
How is SHE going to get that through a GOP Congress? Odin2005 Feb 2016 #13
Better to try in smaller projects for the truly needed areas than huge pie in the sky projects.. riversedge Feb 2016 #43
I like the idea of the gov't jobs hollowdweller Feb 2016 #14
Smart. Target the money where it will cause the greatest improvement in people's lives. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #16
I think she entitled her economic plan, "Trickle-Down economics." Hoppy Feb 2016 #17
How would this be good for Wall Street? pandr32 Feb 2016 #24
Being glib and posting snark does nothing for you. bye riversedge Feb 2016 #42
Buh-bye sweetie. Hoppy Feb 2016 #44
Will cost a lot of money. Bernie's idea of rebuilding infrastructure will too. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #18
This sort of thing is basic policy stuff, it actually pays for itself. joshcryer Feb 2016 #20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Infrastructure_Reinvestment_Bank LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #19
Mrs.Clinton is my choice but I'm puzzled as to why she only does small town halls instead of larger bigdarryl Feb 2016 #21
More intimate setting. Can't do a Q&A and listen to the livetohike Feb 2016 #26
Interaction with the audiance. usually half of the Town halls are Q & A sessions. riversedge Feb 2016 #27
can you explain the arrow to the right in the Hillary symbol? wordpix Feb 2016 #47
Clinton talks about Rep. Clyburn's 10-20-30 plan for poverty. I wrote about this: riversedge Feb 2016 #28
Is she going to open a factory? seabeckind Feb 2016 #29
I love plans rooted in Cryptoad Feb 2016 #32
Something wrong with being old and white? tabasco Feb 2016 #34
Wow. n/t reflection Feb 2016 #39
Bernie is what? Only 5-6 yrs. older than Hilary? wordpix Feb 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author oasis Feb 2016 #48
So now she agrees with Sanders we are more like Denmark? still_one Feb 2016 #51
thank-you for this entire post mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #52

houston16revival

(953 posts)
1. What is
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

environmental justice, exactly?

Republicans would consider it giving them federal lands for profit and plunder

Kids might want parks and playgrounds

Mayors and community leaders want libraries and outdoor concert halls

Bike trails, nature centers, walks, hunting ...

Environmental justice is the fair treatment and meaningful involvement of all people regardless of race, color, national origin, or income with respect to the development, implementation, and enforcement of environmental laws, regulations, and policies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_justice

So everyone gets a piece. But the developers will always be back for more!

Igel

(35,320 posts)
8. Where I lived it went like this.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

Two generations before I was born, a lot of relatively poor workers moved to be close to jobs.

The generation before I was born, those jobs had grown to be good jobs and those poor workers had families.

The generation I was in didn't like the fact that the companies that produced these jobs polluted and were loud, and insisted on regulating those companies because they had a right to having circumstances change to ensure that their newly recognized rights were upheld. Confronted with restrictive regulations that limited what they used to be able to do, made costs higher, and coupled with high wages and aging infrastructure, those companies either moved to low-rent areas or, more frequently, couldn't meet the prices offered by their competition and went out of business.

The harbor of a port some 15 miles away was being dredged in that time period, and the toxic, foul-smelling sludge was deemed worthy of being put in a containment basin near the community, helping to make the community in the early '70s surrounded by sources of pollution.

The relatively uneducated population that relied on the blue-collar jobs simply became unemployed and dispersed while the area became yet another white-collar bedroom community. White collar workers bought up the deflated housing prices. The white-collar workers then pointed out that houses and land similar to theirs in other areas were worth far more, and their had the right for their low-bought properties to soon appreciate to match similar real-estate prices elsewhere. More restrictions caused the remaining blue-collar jobs to vacate for better, more hospital climes.

We won't talk about the suicide, drug abuse, and alcoholism rate as the blue-collar neighborhood rotted. It was very dysfunctional, but nobody really cared. What mattered most was that the school, which had no advanced academics for nearly 20 years, with the new population suddenly became a magnet school with gobs of AP and dual credit courses.

Had this been a community of color, "environmental justice" would have been at issue, and the resulting displacement of population would have been "gentrification." The crappy schools would have been a racial or ethnic issue. (Of course, the racial skew went from mostly white when the school was barely adequate to more racially integrated as a result of the white-collar population's immigration.) But it was 95% white, so it was just a poor community that needed to be diversified, and gentrification wasn't a problem because those moving in were less monochrome. In other words, the community didn't deserve equality.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. "What is environmental justice, exactly?"
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:07 PM
Feb 2016

It's where we put the environment on trial.

(Saying, "cut it out" wasn't enough.)

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
25. MOCKING towns and the people that are affected by evironmental INjustice is shameful!!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:19 AM
Feb 2016


Your words:

Spitfire of ATJ
10. "What is environmental justice, exactly?"

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It's where we put the environment on trial.

(Saying, "cut it out" wasn't enough.)
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. LOL!!! Did you HONESTLY expect that to work?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

Do you really believe you can accuse me of "mocking people and towns" when you know full well I was mocking Hillary?

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
2. $125 billion....Ooooooo, that's pricey....
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:08 PM
Feb 2016

...how on earth are we going to pay for it? Much less get it through a Republican Congress? Hypocrisy, thy name is Clinton.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
4. Corporate sponsorship, obviously!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:38 PM
Feb 2016

This primary school brought to you by McDonald's, Coca-Cola, and ExxonMobil.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
6. And the Pharma & Banking Industry. Brought to you on the backs of...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

my son's $358 inhaler, along with kids like him. And the fact that my house is still worth 1/3 less that it was than when I signed the contract almost 11 years ago. WTFever. Keep breathing that toxic corporate PAC fund in sHillery.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
46. while we're talking Big Pharma/Insurance fantasy numbers
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

My chemo, which was "conventional" and did not involve life-saving drugs (this chemo has been around for decades), cost about $23K/round, which consisted of minimal administration and was mostly an IV drip I took home for 2 days. I did 12 rounds.

An NIH site I found online showed the real cost is about $3600/round for both admin. + drugs.

Now why would insurance companies agree to pay for "allowed charges" that are so much more than the real cost? Either they are getting kickbacks from the drug companies (who charged most of the "allowed&quot or Big Insurance is writing off what $ they don't get---- they do separate contracts with providers---- as "losses." If the latter, insurance cos. are taking huge tax deductions.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
5. A Start would be bring back community block grants...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

Federal Revenue Sharing , etc. targeted economic development its works for red or blue areas large or small.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
9. LOL. Pandering and unrealistic when Sanders says it, but not when Hill says it?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders promised $200 billion per year over 5 years. Hillary promises $125 billion.

A difference, yes. Of how MUCH money should be used for community infrastructure.

But why the hypocrisy, Hillary supporters?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
22. This project is specific to a target area. Details are important rather than Sanders broad
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:56 AM
Feb 2016

sweeping idea.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
31. And how exactly will this get paid for?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

...and how will she get a Republican Congress to go along? Please share.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
35. I guess you haven't bothered to listen to her, or know her history
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

She has addressed this at length: her plans, how they will be funded, how she has congressional support, her experience fighting with Republicans to get things accomplished, "incremental change" which to those who need this spelled out means small steps forward, and building on the progress and support of President Obama.
She has been criticized at length here on DU by Bernie supporters who say her proposals aren't as lofty as Bernie's. She has already calculated into them the factors above and knows what she can get done and will not promise more than that.
I am supporting the only candidate running that can stop what would happen if she did not win, which would be awful for democrats and all Americans, and awful for democracy.
Hillary Clinton can and will build on the progress President Obama has made. We cannot afford any step backwards.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
38. Let me clue you in on something....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

Republicans in the House are already lined up as to which ones get to star in her impeachment hearings.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
49. Oh, I know her history quite well....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

....And you sound like a goddamn 30 minute political spot. I ain't buying it. I've known what Hill and Bill are about since the 80's. They will say damn near anything to get elected and then govern center right at best. Hill and Bill's records speak volumes of that.

Besides, unless she governs by executive order, she won't get jack, incremental or not, out of what many hillarians consider a Republican Congress in perpetuity. If in fact the make up of the house can change within a 2 term presidency, then we might as well go all the way. This country doesn't need half steps and political feel good soundbites. It needs real, significant change.

And as far as Bernie's ability to get things done in Congress, put down the damn cool aid and follow the link.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
30. You still didn't answer my question, riversedge....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:03 AM
Feb 2016

...how is she going to pay for it and, better yet, get it through a Congress that's controlled by Republicans? Inquiring minds would like to know.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
43. Better to try in smaller projects for the truly needed areas than huge pie in the sky projects..
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016



............... Clinton additionally tied the lead-tainted water disaster in Flint, Mich., to conditions elsewhere in America where black neighborhoods suffer the most from negative environmental exposures.

“I will say what I said in Flint about your state of schools here in South Carolina: if the water had been poisoned in a white affluent suburb of Detroit, if the schools were falling apart in rich suburbs of Columbia or Charleston, there would have been an outcry,” she said.

Those in the crowd were encouraged by Clinton’s words. Columbia resident Sandy Jowers, a retired educator who said she worked in rural schools in South Carolina, supported Clinton’s message of supporting struggling schools.

“She had a loud message about trying to get more assistance to the children, by improving schools, education and the facilities,” she said.

“As a Democrat, she’s more in line with my beliefs in taking care of the downtrodden and poor and those who can’t help themselves,” added retired computer specialist Russell Dowery.
 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
14. I like the idea of the gov't jobs
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016


Esp for young folks. One problem I see in poor areas is a lot of kids don't get their first job till they are much older and then they have to develop work skills way later than when kids in areas of economic prosperity is.
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
17. I think she entitled her economic plan, "Trickle-Down economics."
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

In summation, What's good for Wall Street is good for the nation.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Will cost a lot of money. Bernie's idea of rebuilding infrastructure will too.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:24 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary is not going to do either sending money to depressed communities or rebuilding infrastructure because it would cost her donors too much money. She is not going to spend her donor's money to improve life for ordinary people.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
20. This sort of thing is basic policy stuff, it actually pays for itself.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:05 AM
Feb 2016

Infrastructure spending always pays for itself. Even Larry Summers, of all people, made that argument with regards to fixing the roads, so it's not a big thing for any candidate to support. All you have to do is point out the savings that you make from loss prevention, then peg the infrastructure costs to the studies that say you lose X.

Then laugh at anyone who votes against it.

Arguing that government spending doesn't actually do anything and it's just there for shits and giggles or something is the wrong way to go about it. Government really is "here to help." (A riff on Regan's stupid "most terrifying words" bullshit.) If you repair a really shitty road that is putting billions of dollars of wear and tear on vehicles, that is an economic stimulus on repairs that don't need to be done. Vehicle crash prevention, tires, maintenance, fuel savings, and even time savings for drivers who are stuck in traffic all day and can be more productive elsewhere.

This is what government does best when it does it. Tens of thousands of city planners work on this sort of thing every day, and without it, we'd be doing way worse off. Basic policy work.

What Clinton is doing here is repackaging basic infrastructure spending as a minority based thing, which is easy to get passed once they strip the minority stuff from it in committee and throw bones to white communities that also need this kind of spending.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
21. Mrs.Clinton is my choice but I'm puzzled as to why she only does small town halls instead of larger
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:21 AM
Feb 2016

Venues

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
26. More intimate setting. Can't do a Q&A and listen to the
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:26 AM
Feb 2016

concerns of people at a large venue. Large venues = talking at people, not with.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
28. Clinton talks about Rep. Clyburn's 10-20-30 plan for poverty. I wrote about this:
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:00 AM
Feb 2016

This program was mention in the OP article.


Joan Walsh ?@joanwalsh Feb 11

And @HillaryClinton talks about Rep. Clyburn's 10-20-30 plan for poverty. I wrote about this: http://www.thenation.com/article/are-black-women-ready-for-hillary/

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
29. Is she going to open a factory?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:01 AM
Feb 2016

Nope.

Is she going to implement a WPA-type project to build a broadband network as a utility?

Nope.

Is she going to implement a WPA-type project to modernize the water and sewage distribution systems?

Nope.

Sounds like more retail "revitalization" to provide for consumerism for imported products.

The town vitally needs an Ikea and Pier One.

That'll bring back jobs alright.

Meanwhile SC exports cotton and imports shirts.

Hey! I know! Maybe she can get Rahm down to show how the town can make a gazillion dollars selling the parking meter franchise to a German company.

Response to wordpix (Reply #45)

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
52. thank-you for this entire post
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

especially post and courier...somehow scalia passing on the night of the republican debate in south carolina where clementa pickney democrat and ame church goers were slaughtered by dylann roof...confederate flag waver and so carolina republicans who stayed up all night to vote for the confederate flag after...while not religious I feel this was divine intervention...allelujiah! and that we should not miss this opportunity to make the supreme court available to reign in the second amendment and create some real gun control.... Cheers, Maggie

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