Long-lost Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Antonio Salieri composition found in Prague
Source: ABC News Australia
A long-lost collaborative effort between composers and putative rivals Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Antonio Salieri has been found at a Czech museum.
"It's a really valuable work... long thought to have been lost," Czech National Museum spokeswoman Sarka Dockalova said, adding that staff discovered it in the reserve collection.
"It's a joint composition by Mozart and Salieri a libretto by Lorenzo Da Ponte put to music."
Ms Dockalova said it would be performed on Tuesday at a press conference in Prague.
Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-13/mozart,-salieri-composition-found-in-prague/7165566
dhill926
(16,346 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Thanks for sharing. I know a violinist for whom this will be a highlight of the day!
redwitch
(14,944 posts)too many notes?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)A tip of the hat to you -
I only get this because I just watched 'Amadeus' a few weeks ago
louis-t
(23,295 posts)A running family joke.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)And the "too many notes" has always stayed with me. Thanks for getting it!
Mira
(22,380 posts)and it tickles me that you said it first.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)I say: "Too many notes".
And then I ask "Have you seen the movie Amadeus"? and if they say no I encourage them.
Tom Hulce, who played Amadeus, was educated at the NC School of the Arts, 3 blocks from my house.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)In fact the entire cast was.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Seems like he disappeared after Amadeus. Of course we can't forget him as one of the innocent young frat boys in Animal House.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Jeffery Jones was the only one that didn't drop into semi-obscurity (and probably would have as well, were it not for "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." even though the movie was a huge commercial and critical success.
hack89
(39,171 posts)and was nominated for another in 2010.
Made me chuckle
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)this. I hope it gets performed soon.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)But how can we hear it?
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)drokhole
(1,230 posts)But, seriously, really cool news! Mozart's music is my favorite of the Classical era.
Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)I'm curious how they authenticated it though, and why it was thought to exist to begin with (they described it as "long-lost"
Regardless, I'd love to hear it. Unfortunately I can't be in Prague on Tuesday; I'm supposed to be in Antartica. Maybe the week after?
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)in before the start, and he smiled and waved to the cheering audience. An occasion I'll never forget. It was not long after the disastrous Nov. erection of Reagan, dead man walking.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)On another note I've been trying to find the recipe for Nipples of Venus since I saw Amadeus but have been unsuccessful.
Also for fans of that film, if you haven't seen the Director's cut of Amadeus, do so. the scenes that were cut out really needed to be back in there to make the story work. It's like seeing it for the first time.
I was such a Mozart fan before that film came out that I didn't want to see it. I'm glad I did but it still pains me to think how many people think the film was factual and that Salieri actually killed/tried to kill Mozart.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Beethoven, Salieri's former pupil, defended Salieri from the innuendo, but the slander never really went away.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)Alex Jones' ancestors started the rumor.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Not true but it made for one helluva film.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)IRL, every contemporary account seems to support that they got along just fine.
Beethoven and Salieri disliked each other however. Of course, Beethoven had a hard time getting along with anyone.
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)monicaangela
(1,508 posts)Any news on when we might hear the new piece?
Same principal, different genre....
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Enjoy....
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)44 minutes and 42 seconds of Mozart and Salieri
Enjoy.....
Beacool
(30,250 posts)monicaangela
(1,508 posts)BTW: Have you seen this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511224381
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)The count is sending him off to the army where he can't wear fancy clothes.
Cherubino is a "trouser role" which is a female mezzo-soprano wearing boys' clothes. That lock of hair that Figaro pulls away from Cherubino is a lock of the Countess' hair, because Cherubino has a crush on the Countess Rosina.
Back when I was singing, "Non so piu cosa son cosa faccio" was my audition number, which is Cherubino's fast aria. Basically he's a teenage boy who just discovered women. "Ogni donna mi fa palpitar" -- Every woman makes me tremble.
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)in which we find ourselves, how does this fit in with Mozart and Salieri? By the way, congratulations on your vocal talent, what is your singing range? Are you a tenor?
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)is an aria sung by Figaro in The Marriage of Figaro. Libretto by Lorenzo da Ponte, music by Mozart. That's two out of the three people mentioned in the OP.
You had posted the scene from Amadeus where W.A.M. plays the beginning of Non piu andrai. Then someone else posted a video of a live performance of Non piu andrai . I was explaining the situation that Figaro was singing about, and what Cherubino was doing, and why Figaro was singing what he was singing. Is that relevant enough for you?
I think it's a whole lot more relevant to the thread than putting up Jelly Roll Morton.
Now that I've lost my head tone due to age, I'm a baritone and used to be a tenor. I had 3 octaves 20 years ago, C3 to C6. But as a true mezzo, the high notes were sparing. None of that high noodling that coloraturas do. I was also able to sing lyric soprano roles like Zerlina. The only time I was able to sing in an opera was with an amateur opera company that did The Elixir of Love in Italian. I was a soprano in the chorus.
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)I am still learning, and with your response you have taught me a lot. Thanks again!
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)It's always fun to learn about the stories in operas for context. The Marriage of Figaro is the original "bedroom farce" with people disguising themselves in other peoples' clothes for a secret rendezvous in the garden, hiding in closets, jumping out windows, and running in and out of rooms. The last act gets incredibly complicated.
The original bedroom farce that is not musical is a play called "A Flea in Her Ear". Written in 1907 by Georges Feydeau.
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)I am not well educated when it comes to opera. I guarantee you I will learn more and be able to converse in a much better manner in the future. Forgive my clumsy attempt at humor with the Jelly Roll Morton clip. Having said that, let me tell you I admire you for having studied and performed these wonderful Arias. I watch, I listen, and many times enjoy what I evidently do not understand. I enjoy Opera for the beauty of it, vocal as well as performance. I sing, not nearly good enough to have ever been considered an operatic voice, but I do enjoy listening to someone who has great vocal range. Most persons that sing opera of course have this. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to respond to my comment, and with your comment I have decided that at this point in my life it is time to actually learn more about an art I truly love. Thanks again, I admire and envy you.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Bangbangdem
(140 posts)I never knew that this was a real thing. Fascinating.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)"You go too fast!"
"Do you have it?!!"
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I would love to hear this piece. Mozart was such a musical genius. It's a pity that he died so young.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)When it comes to writing opera words (libretti).
He wrote the libretti for Don Giovanni, Marriage of Figaro, and Cosi fan Tutti, so that means this new work must be fabulous for the words as well.
I'm slightly biased as I think Don Giovanni is the best opera ever written, and Marriage of Figaro is second.
trillion
(1,859 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)I love it when this kind of thing happens.