Cliven Bundy denied bail by federal judge
Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:55 AM - Edit history (4)
Source: Twitter
Conrad Wilson ?@conradjwilson 4 minutes ago
Cliven Bundy denied bail by federal judge #Oregonstandoff
... 42 minutes ago Heading into the federal courtroom right now in Portland where Cliven Bundy is having his detention hearing. #Oregonstandoff
"It's clear Mr. Bundy does not comply with court orders," said Judge Janice Stewart at Cliven Bundy's detention hearing #Oregonstandoff
Ryan Haas Verified account ?@ryanjhaas 2 minutes ago
No bail. His attorney says they plan to appeal. #Oregonstandoff
Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Magistrate Judge Janice Stewart orders Cliven Bundy detained as flight risk, danger to community #Oregonstandoff
Read more: https://twitter.com/conradjwilson/status/699714060829331456
Bundy may never get out of prison.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299471534/2-16-16-Doc-4-U-S-A-v-CLIVEN-BUNDY-USA-Detention-Memorandum-for-Cliven-Bundy
.... the government seeks the continued pretrial detention of defendant Cliven Bundy (Bundy) both as a risk of non-appearance and as a danger to the safety of others and the community. Bundy is lawless and violent. He does not recognize federal courts claiming they are illegitimate does not recognize federal law, refuses to obey federal court orders, has already used force and violence against federal law enforcement officers while they were enforcing federal court orders, nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others. He has pledged to do so again in the future to keep federal law enforcement officers from enforcing the law against him. As of the date of this hearing, he continues to violate federal court orders and continues to possess the proceeds of his illegal activities. Bundy is currently charged with crimes of violence including using and brandishing firearms in connection with crimes of violence .....
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Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Nevada federal prosecutor Steven Myhre said FBI arrested Cliven Bundy when he was without bodyguard or gun
Feds fear if Cliven Bundy were to be released from custody, he'd return to his NV ranch 'hunker down, muster more gunmen
Fed prosecutor cited Cliven Bundy's continued disregard of fed court orders (re: cattle grazing fees, permits) and 2014 standoff w/ feds
Conrad Wilson Verified account ?@conradjwilson
Cliven Bundy walked out of the courtroom shuffling, ankles shackled. He turned to wave to the courtroom. Some waived back. #Oregonstandoff
by Ryan Haas and Conrad Wilson OPB | Feb. 17, 2016
Today marks a tremendous step toward ending more than 20 years of law breaking, said Bureau of Land Management Director Neil Kornze in a statement ....
Wednesdays indictment identifies Cliven Bundy as the leader, organizer, and chief beneficiary of the conspiracy, and states that he possessed ultimate authority over the 2014 standoff.
The remaining defendants are charged as leaders and organizers who conspired with Bundy to achieve his criminal objectives, Bogden wrote in a statement.
The maximum penalties for each of the charges against the men range from five to 20 years in prison. Each charge carries a maximum fine of $250,000. ....
Oregonian newsroom produced 356 stories, 2,500 photos 110 videos = #Oregonstandoff http://s.oregonlive.com/2N9ujo
Bradley W. Parks ?@Bradley_W_Parks
Cliven Bundy has been denied bail and will remain in the Multnomah Co. Jail.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/cliven-bundy-bail-at-hearing/
=== Previously in this soap opera ===
#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =
Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.
#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics
Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty
The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,717 posts)I'm not sure what these guys expect. They bad mouth every arm of the government, and then they expect special treatment.
jpak
(41,759 posts)lulz
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)If he gets out, we'll never see him in jail.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)The slammer!
Cliven, you da man.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)KT2000
(20,588 posts)would do if they got out of jail. They have no respect for the law or anyone else. Good call by the judge.
Archae
(46,348 posts)They'd hole up in a concrete emplacement, (old septic tank,) with their guns.
KT2000
(20,588 posts)good one -
Archae
(46,348 posts)It's just stuck with me.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)May he never leave the joint.
lamp_shade
(14,842 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)arrest of the nuts from the NV stand off coming. I think the fbi did good in waiting bundy out and taking him out without any chance of a gun battle.
ThreeWayFanny
(80 posts)... at an airport where they would have already made sure he was unarmed.
madokie
(51,076 posts)a couple notches with the way they handled this. As I was saying I suspect they have the other nuts under their radar and at some point in time they'll be taking them in too. I like that they did took old man bundy in a way that no one was in harms way. I really like the way the judge took into account that bundy doesn't have any respect for the law of the land in the decision to not allow him out on bail.
I/we have to play by the book and I like that. I'd much rather live in a land of laws as in an outlaw land.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Not just people who were at the refuge.
I'm thinking this is a smart judge. I doubt he'll not leave prison, ever...and I'm OK with that. He's caused way too much trouble in this country, and cost us way too much money.
brush
(53,871 posts)standoff in 2014. There were so many photos taken, especially of the sniper on the bridge with his sight trained on the law officers, they have the identities of many of those people too.
I'm sure they're all shaking in their boots and looking over their shoulder now that they've taken old man Bundy in.
An
wordpix
(18,652 posts)only Finicum, due to his stupidity, was shot
longship
(40,416 posts)Big fan of L. Coyote excellent coverage of this story here on DU.
Lots of links to backup info.
Tremendously good work needs recognition.
Way to go!
madokie
(51,076 posts)left on green only
(1,484 posts)PoiBoy
(1,542 posts)great job L. Coyote..!! Thanks for keeping us informed...!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:01 AM - Edit history (1)
Defending public lands is a really important issue right now because there are robbers afoot.
Anyway, here are my #BundyTeaParty threads:[center]
***** LIVE feed: #OregonStandoff Ends - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty *****
***** #OregonStandoff Ended - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 *****
#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =
Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.
#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics
***** LIVE: Harney County Community Meeting -- #OregonStandoff *****
Bundy Gives Demands For Continued FBI Negotiations #BundyTeaParty
Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty
The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.
left on green only
(1,484 posts)Who gets to decide these things?
Do they get to wear their cowboy hats inside their cells? Aren't the hats an important part of their defense?
Perhaps they can have conjugal visits with each other. And to that effect, whatever became of that 50 gallon barrel of lube?
And is there a chance that Lavoy will somehow return disguised as a blue tarp, while he pulls an El Charo by digging them out with a spoon. Then they can all gaze at the stars together.
Finally, does anyone know if its true that Disney is pursuing the film rights to the story for a Hannah Montana prequel?
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,149 posts)I hope he rots there!
reflection
(6,286 posts)We know you don't recognize the existence of the federal government, and by extension, the cage they've put you in. Just walk through the non-existent wall and leave.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)I had no idea Bundy doesn't actually tend to his cattle, he just let's them wander, breed, get into trouble until he wants one and then goes and wrastles it down. No branding, no round up, no cowboys, no fences, no inoculations, no feeding. Hardly ranching.
Mendocino
(7,509 posts)like Fox is news.
2naSalit
(86,798 posts)sees NO attention when it comes to this wannabe Ka boy.
safeinOhio
(32,725 posts)them, terrorist.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I've been checking Oregon Live every day to see if there was anything new of interest, but hadn't made it there yet today.
I'm so glad to hear this.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:46 AM - Edit history (1)
as if it is or ever was theirs.
They are supposedly trying to 'take back the narrative' by spamming the hashtag the journalists use, so I'm having to block the clowns to keep the tag useful. It really has slowed down though, now that 'their standoff' is happening behind bars.
I created the hashtag #BundyTeaParty and it gets little other use than here, so WOW what a great Google image search it is now, almost entirely created by DUers!.
DJ Rubiconski ?@Rubiconski
#PublicLands Rally Helena #Montana - February 16, 2015
DJ Rubiconski ?@Rubiconski
#PublicLands rally packs Capitol rotunda in #Montana Monday Feb 16
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Let him pay that, then we can talk bail. She's absolutely right that he's shown a pattern of defying court orders and threatening federal agents who try to make him comply. Why would you grant somebody like that bail?
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)Besides the feds can and should just seize the ranch and tell him he has x number of days to pay the debt or it will be auctioned off and whatever they get for it at the auction will be used to pay the debt with any remaining still to be paid by him.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Nice.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
2naSalit
(86,798 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)You, too, Mr. Myhre. No telling what the kooks in his fan club will pull because of this.
Stryder
(450 posts)on "Sniper Boy?" That was the most disturbing part of all this IMO.
From immediate threat to the life of a federal agent, to
walking carefree among us. Seems they're on this but,
that's some serious gone time.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Usually, our Eastern Oregon coprolite news is 14,000 year old "issues" if you will.
JohnR ?@AnglerArcher 8 minutes ago
Commence poo jokes. Firearms, explosives and human feces found at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. http://s.oregonlive.com/4290r3b #Oregonstandoff
Andrew Sheeler ?@andrewsheeler
#OregonStandoff militants may have literally shit on sacred tribal sites. Because of course they did.
The FBI has found a number of firearms and explosives at the refuge and poop.
by Ryan Haas OPB | Feb. 16, 2016 4:17 p.m.
Militants who took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon may have not only been desecrating sites that are sacred to the Burns Paiute tribe, but defecating on them as well, according to court documents filed Tuesday.
Hunter ?@huntrgathrr
Idaho bill (prepared by ALEC) allows counties to declare Public Lands a "Nuisance"
http://magicvalley.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/bill-targets-nuisance-state-and-federal-lands/article_59ba51ab-ca09-5994-91a2-5aa33838c6ac.html
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)You have to wonder if he is going to be indicted. I find no indication he has been arrested or charged. I'm sure they are developing air-tight cases before bringing them. In other words, busy gathering all the evidence possible before drying up the river of broadcasting evidence that characterizes these narcissists.
Petra Vilshenko ?@petvillka1992 2 hours ago
#OregonStandoff Eric Parker says "We need to keep matching with show of force." In light of Bundy indictment, hmmm..
http://bit.ly/1oIs9MF
STOP #YallQaeda ?@Yall_Qaeda Feb 14
Eric EJ Parker needs to join Cliven on jail soon before they plan another occupation
#ArrestEricParker #YallQaeda
canannain ?@ocanannain 35 minutes ago
Why hasn't Jerry DeLemus, Veteran for Trump, been arrested along with the Bundys? .... http://thebea.st/1OInQMM #OregonStandoff #YallQaeda
JJ MacNab ?@jjmacnab Feb 14
Mel Bundy's role in the takeover of the Refuge. "Jack Johnson" was Blaine Cooper's alias when he was on the run.
always vote ?@always_vote
Audio: Dark money pushing America further to the radical right:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-16-2016-1.3449741/journalist-jane-mayer-follows-money-trail-to-billionaires-behind-radical-right-1.3449790
#KochBrothers #OregonStandoff #BundyMilitia #USPoli
Signal31 ?@Section_131
#bundymilitia #bundyranch #Oregonstandoff #PooPartyPatriots Looks like someone ate the sugar-free gummi-dicks
WoodsyWoman ?@WoodsyWoman_OR Feb 15
More occupants at #Malheur near Frenchglen and Page Springs Campground.
Stryder
(450 posts)I just read some of the charges today. Was beginning to wonder.
The snails pace seemed to be inviting more fuckery.
But it does seem they have all their dicks in a row.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)But, you can count on them watching statute of limitations clocks closely. We know when they have to strike or forget it, and so do the persons of interest, the Bundy Ranch armed intervention participants. the rest of them must be shitting bullets (puns intended) after reading the Cliven filing.
They know who they are and can already add up their own sentences now.
Bundy's Bag Of Dicks @BundysBagODicks
#Oregonstandoff summary: The only thing meaner than Cliven Bundy's cattle is Cliven Bundy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/the-11-sickest-burns-from-the-federal-complai
dKnudson ?@edknudson
Greg Walden engaged in irresponsible rhetoric in his House speech on Malheur #Oregonstandoff. See http://www.pubtheo.com/page.asp?PID=2093
Bradley W. Parks ?@Bradley_W_Parks 3 hours ago
Cliven Bundy is on his way back to Nevada. @ksfreda reports:
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/cliven-bundy-judge-send-nevada-charges-court/
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)This is the notice where Cliven misspells Malheur,
then notorizes the evidence he created against himself, and sends it to the cops and to Obama!
Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian 2 hours ago
Govt cited this Feb. 1 notice from Cliven Bundy to @HarneyCoSheriff indicating 'We The People' will retain refuge
Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Fed govt's memo seeking Cliven Bundy's detention full of references to sons Ammon & RyanRyan and their involvement in 2014 NV standoff
Asst US Attorney Steven Myhre of allegations against Cliven Bundy from 2014 standoff w/ Feds:'It's about violence. It's about raising guns.'
Rather than manage & control his cattle, Cliven Bundy lets them run wild on the public lands ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/16/1486205/-34-page-doc-just-slams-Cliven-Bundy-in-court #OregonStandoff
Holy mole. I just got done reading this and all I can say is that Cliven is truly in some deep, deep poo.
2-16-16 Doc 4 - U.S.A. v CLIVEN BUNDY - USA Detention Memorandum for Cliven Bundy
2016-02-16 4 0 Memorandum in Support of Motion by USA as to Cliven D. Bundy .....
As you may know, Cliven is in court today regarding his potential for release (on bail). After reading the entire 34 pages, all I can say is dude, congratulations. You are so incredibly screwed. ......
FailureToCommunicate
(14,022 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm from Oregon, but living overseas. Thanks for the updates.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The government knows these people are religiously misogynistic, believing their god does not allow women to hold dominion over men in any way, shape or form...so every time these turkeys have gone to court, they've been stood before a female judge.
Randomthought
(837 posts)I didn't know that before now
shenmue
(38,506 posts)I love birdees.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)ONDA @TheOregonDesert
Two words: Thank you! We're so appreciative of those who want to help restore Malheur. #ONDA http://buff.ly/20ChjDT
Pull barbed wire, paddle rivers & restore streams! Join an #ONDA 2016 stewardship trip. http://buff.ly/1KDKG6B
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Bundy is a dangerous idiot
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)John Kaser @john_kaser
Another good read about Cliven Bundy's Wild Cow Refuge 😡
... The usual suspects have turned this into some Orwellian takeover and suppression of civil liberties, along with alleged backroom deals involving Harry Reid and Chinese solar farms. A basic fact check reveals that reality is more benign and less dramatic. Rather than taking the time to learn about and explain the history, structure and legal mandate of the BLM, as well as the multiple court cases Bundy lost and complaints from other locals and environmental groups (often confusing and overlapping) over Bundys trespass cattle, many ideological opportunists have seized this opportunity to portray the BLM as some shadowy organization trampling a ranchers rights.
As The Wildlife News writes:
We hope to write more about the history of Americas public lands because the publics lack of knowledge plays into the hands of political and media manipulators.
A few facts about the Cliven Bundy and the BLM incident ....
Brian Duffy ?@duffyink
Since they won't have anything else to do:
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/firearms_explosives_and_trench.html #oregonstandoff #Bundymilitia #MalheurOccupation
ocanannain ?@ocanannain 12 minutes ago
Lawless Nevada Thug Cliven Bundy Gets To Stay In Jail Forever, Hooray!
http://wonkette.com/598851/lawless-nevada-thug-cliven-bundy-gets-to-stay-in-jail-forever-hooray
#OregonStandoff
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)PUBLIC LANDS: BLM's conundrum: What to do with Bundy's cows
Phil Taylor, E&E reporter Greenwire: Friday, February 26, 2016
Cliven Bundy is behind bars, but his cows remain at large..... His cattle linger as an ecological scourge to the Mojave Desert northeast of Las Vegas.
The Bundy herd, last estimated at 1,000, has trampled sensitive soils, devoured native saplings and bedded down against Native American artifacts. One of Bundy's bulls attacked a Nevada wildlife official, while others have run roughshod over a community garden and a golf course, BLM said.
BLM and its allies -- following court orders -- want Bundy's cows gone from the public lands surrounding his Bunkerville, Nev., ranch, and particularly Gold Butte, a 350,000-acre mesa of Joshua trees, cacti and creosote bushes below the snow-dusted Virgin Peak.
But removing Bundy's ornery, battle-tested herd -- estimated by one Nevada official to be worth up to $800,000 -- will be expensive, logistically difficult and potentially dangerous.
"It's like hunting cape buffalo," ...........
Northend.org ?@thenorthend
"Bishop is irresponsibly fanning the flames militant radicalism in the West"
#Oregonstandoff #bundymilitia
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/3577972-155/op-ed-bishop-is-fanning-the-flames
Thomas Reich ?@gollum1419_g Feb 26
Malheur Invaders Mooched At Local Senior Center Food Bank
https://shar.es/1CpRL7 via @sharethis #BundyMilitia #RuggedIndividualists?
Mrs. Christ ?@JesusWife Feb 25
Police try in vain to control a massive gathering of #BundyMilitia supporters demonstrating outside the courthouse.
oasis
(49,410 posts)use too much of the taxpayer's toilet paper.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive February 17, 2016 at 6:28 PM
The indictment charges the four with 16 felonies, including one count of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, one count of conspiring to impede or injure a federal officer, four counts of carrying a firearm in a crime of violence, two counts of assault on a federal officer, two counts of threatening a federal law enforcement officer, three counts of obstructing justice, two counts of interfering with interstate commerce by extortion and one count of interstate travel in aid of extortion.
It also alleges five counts of criminal forfeiture. If convicted, the defendants would be required to forfeit property obtained from the proceeds of their crimes, totaling at least $3 million, as well as the forfeiture of firearms and ammunition used in the April 12, 2014, standoff with federal authorities.
"The rule of law has been reaffirmed with these charges,'' said Nevada's U.S. Attorney Daniel G. Bogden, in a prepared statement. "Persons who use force and violence against federal law enforcement officers who are enforcing court orders and nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others, will be brought to justice.'' .......
According to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Nevada, the maximum penalties for the Nevada-based charges are 5 years for conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S., 6 years for conspiracy to impede and injure a federal officer; 20 years for assault on a federal officer; 10 years for threatening a federal law enforcement officer; 10 years for obstruction of justice, 20 years for interfering with interstate commerce by extortion, 20 years for interstate travel in aid of extortion and a five-year minimum for using and carrying a firearm in a crime of violence......
carolealana ?@carolealana
Essentially Life, some figure 171 yrs? #Oregonstandoff
David Tyler ?@Ardhen723
@petvillka1992 ahh incorrect my dear 16 counts carry 5-20y each so they face 80-320y for NV alone #Oregonstandoff @RealLisaBundy #Bummer4U
Petra Vilshenko @petvillka1992
#OregonStandoff 180 years + maybe another 60 after the #Malheur investigation = 240 years, or how long the US has been around
http://www.scribd.com/doc/299614689/US-v-Bundy-Bundy-Bundy-Payne-Santilli
Conrad Wilson Verified account ?@conradjwilson 47 minutes ago
LATEST: Bundy Family, Supporters Face 16 Federal Felonies For 2014 Standoff
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/bundy-family-supporters-face-16-federal-felonies-for-2014-standoff/
Change4good ?@Change4good1 41m41 minutes ago
Major FRUITCake that's all that needs to be said about this. #oregonstandoff
Refuge occupier seeks $666 billion in damages 'from works of devil'
Not THE Al @allatta
#OregonStandoff Most satisfying aspect of this whole ordeal is that these loons have done irreparable damage to whatever their "cause" is.