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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:06 PM Feb 2016

Cliven Bundy denied bail by federal judge

Last edited Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:55 AM - Edit history (4)

Source: Twitter

Conrad Wilson ?@conradjwilson 4 minutes ago
Cliven Bundy denied bail by federal judge #Oregonstandoff
... 42 minutes ago Heading into the federal courtroom right now in Portland where Cliven Bundy is having his detention hearing. #Oregonstandoff
"It's clear Mr. Bundy does not comply with court orders," said Judge Janice Stewart at Cliven Bundy's detention hearing #Oregonstandoff

Ryan Haas Verified account ?@ryanjhaas 2 minutes ago
No bail. His attorney says they plan to appeal. #Oregonstandoff

Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Magistrate Judge Janice Stewart orders Cliven Bundy detained as flight risk, danger to community #Oregonstandoff

Read more: https://twitter.com/conradjwilson/status/699714060829331456



Bundy may never get out of prison.

2-16-16 Doc 4 - U.S.A. v CLIVEN BUNDY - USA Detention Memorandum for Cliven Bundy
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299471534/2-16-16-Doc-4-U-S-A-v-CLIVEN-BUNDY-USA-Detention-Memorandum-for-Cliven-Bundy

.... the government seeks the continued pretrial detention of defendant Cliven Bundy (“Bundy”) both as a risk of non-appearance and as a danger to the safety of others and the community. Bundy is lawless and violent. He does not recognize federal courts – claiming they are illegitimate – does not recognize federal law, refuses to obey federal court orders, has already used force and violence against federal law enforcement officers while they were enforcing federal court orders, nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others. He has pledged to do so again in the future to keep federal law enforcement officers from enforcing the law against him. As of the date of this hearing, he continues to violate federal court orders and continues to possess the proceeds of his illegal activities. Bundy is currently charged with crimes of violence including using and brandishing firearms in connection with crimes of violence .....


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Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Nevada federal prosecutor Steven Myhre said FBI arrested Cliven Bundy when he was without bodyguard or gun
Feds fear if Cliven Bundy were to be released from custody, he'd return to his NV ranch 'hunker down, muster more gunmen
Fed prosecutor cited Cliven Bundy's continued disregard of fed court orders (re: cattle grazing fees, permits) and 2014 standoff w/ feds

Conrad Wilson Verified account ?@conradjwilson
Cliven Bundy walked out of the courtroom shuffling, ankles shackled. He turned to wave to the courtroom. Some waived back. #Oregonstandoff

Bundy Family, Supporters Face 16 Federal Felonies For 2014 Standoff
by Ryan Haas and Conrad Wilson OPB | Feb. 17, 2016

“Today marks a tremendous step toward ending more than 20 years of law breaking,” said Bureau of Land Management Director Neil Kornze in a statement ....

Wednesday’s indictment identifies Cliven Bundy as the “leader, organizer, and chief beneficiary of the conspiracy,” and states that he “possessed ultimate authority” over the 2014 standoff.

“The remaining defendants are charged as leaders and organizers who conspired with Bundy to achieve his criminal objectives,” Bogden wrote in a statement.

The maximum penalties for each of the charges against the men range from five to 20 years in prison. Each charge carries a maximum fine of $250,000. ....


Oregonian newsroom produced 356 stories, 2,500 photos 110 videos = #Oregonstandoff http://s.oregonlive.com/2N9ujo

Bradley W. Parks ?@Bradley_W_Parks
Cliven Bundy has been denied bail and will remain in the Multnomah Co. Jail.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/cliven-bundy-bail-at-hearing/






=== Previously in this soap opera ===

#BundyTeaParty Day 30: What you need to know = four holdouts await divine intervention =

Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says

BLM tab, $1,000,000.00, Cliven Bundy trying to write a letter, priceless.

#RefugeRally chant went from "birds not bullies" to "throw the bums in jail" #Oregonstandoff 43 pics

Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty

The #BundyBunch was spotted this morning, foraging for snacks.
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Cliven Bundy denied bail by federal judge (Original Post) L. Coyote Feb 2016 OP
lol nt retrowire Feb 2016 #1
. jeff47 Feb 2016 #2
Color me not surprised... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #3
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!1111 jpak Feb 2016 #4
Yay! NV Whino Feb 2016 #5
Excellent iandhr Feb 2016 #6
Good move. old guy Feb 2016 #7
Sweet! More federal property for him to occupy. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #8
That was too funny passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #27
Good. WhiteTara Feb 2016 #9
Can't imagine what these guys KT2000 Feb 2016 #10
Obviously, they'd never show up again in court. Archae Feb 2016 #16
old septic tank!!! KT2000 Feb 2016 #24
I heard that on a comic album decades ago... Archae Feb 2016 #25
Cool bigwillq Feb 2016 #11
HAH! lamp_shade Feb 2016 #12
I suspect there will be more madokie Feb 2016 #13
Great idea taking him down.... ThreeWayFanny Feb 2016 #17
My respect for the fbi went up madokie Feb 2016 #20
I think they've already taken in a number of them passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #31
I'm thinking now that they have old man Bundy they may go after the gunmen at the ranch . . . brush Feb 2016 #51
I agree, the whole thing was handled as well as possible wordpix Feb 2016 #53
Good! longship Feb 2016 #14
Right on madokie Feb 2016 #22
^^^^^^^This!^^^^^^^^ EOM left on green only Feb 2016 #23
I agree... PoiBoy Feb 2016 #29
Thanks to all who helped. It was a group effort, lots of participants. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #42
Yay! mcar Feb 2016 #15
I Wonder If Ammonnn and Clyde Can Share The Same Cell? left on green only Feb 2016 #18
Retirement home. Downwinder Feb 2016 #19
I am so not sad about this ... VMA131Marine Feb 2016 #21
It's ok, Cliven. reflection Feb 2016 #26
The U.S. Attorney's memo in opposition to release is really interesting reading. Shrike47 Feb 2016 #28
He's a cowboy Mendocino Feb 2016 #35
A serious conern that 2naSalit Feb 2016 #40
Guantannamo for safeinOhio Feb 2016 #30
Thanks Coyote, passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #32
Still watching the hashtag #OregonStandoff, but the #BundyRanch crowd is trying to 'take it back' L. Coyote Feb 2016 #43
He already owes a shitload of money to the government alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #33
No, bail should be denied period regardless if he pays the money he owes. cstanleytech Feb 2016 #37
+1 navarth Feb 2016 #38
Ooh, lol. SummerSnow Feb 2016 #34
Maybe there IS such a thing as Karma. randome Feb 2016 #36
YES!!!!!!!!!!! 2naSalit Feb 2016 #39
Stay safe, Judge Stewart. GoCubsGo Feb 2016 #41
Any news Stryder Feb 2016 #44
The news is more archaeological today, coprolites found L. Coyote Feb 2016 #45
Eric Parker is the iconic Bundy sniper. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #49
Good to hear Stryder Feb 2016 #60
The more massive the grand jury's task, the longer it takes. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #61
Govt cited notice from Bundy to Sheriff/Gov/Obama indicating 'We The People' will retain refuge L. Coyote Feb 2016 #46
Thanks for all you've done staying with this story. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #47
K & R davidpdx Feb 2016 #48
Here's the best part of the whole incident jmowreader Feb 2016 #50
Excellent! Randomthought Feb 2016 #56
Malheur returns to the birdees. Chirp, chirp, chirp. shenmue Feb 2016 #52
So far, 1,200 people have volunteered to help restore Malheur L. Coyote Feb 2016 #54
This is great news Gothmog Feb 2016 #55
Fact Check – The Bundy Ranch Cattle & The BLM L. Coyote Feb 2016 #57
PUBLIC LANDS: BLM's conundrum: What to do with Bundy's cows L. Coyote Feb 2016 #62
Enjoy your stay at government expense AND don't oasis Feb 2016 #58
Cliven Bundy, A. Bundy, R. Bundy, Santilli, Payne face federal indictment in NV L. Coyote Feb 2016 #59

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
3. Color me not surprised...
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:14 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure what these guys expect. They bad mouth every arm of the government, and then they expect special treatment.

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
10. Can't imagine what these guys
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

would do if they got out of jail. They have no respect for the law or anyone else. Good call by the judge.

Archae

(46,348 posts)
16. Obviously, they'd never show up again in court.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

They'd hole up in a concrete emplacement, (old septic tank,) with their guns.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. I suspect there will be more
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

arrest of the nuts from the NV stand off coming. I think the fbi did good in waiting bundy out and taking him out without any chance of a gun battle.

 

ThreeWayFanny

(80 posts)
17. Great idea taking him down....
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

... at an airport where they would have already made sure he was unarmed.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
20. My respect for the fbi went up
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

a couple notches with the way they handled this. As I was saying I suspect they have the other nuts under their radar and at some point in time they'll be taking them in too. I like that they did took old man bundy in a way that no one was in harms way. I really like the way the judge took into account that bundy doesn't have any respect for the law of the land in the decision to not allow him out on bail.

I/we have to play by the book and I like that. I'd much rather live in a land of laws as in an outlaw land.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. I think they've already taken in a number of them
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

Not just people who were at the refuge.

I'm thinking this is a smart judge. I doubt he'll not leave prison, ever...and I'm OK with that. He's caused way too much trouble in this country, and cost us way too much money.

brush

(53,871 posts)
51. I'm thinking now that they have old man Bundy they may go after the gunmen at the ranch . . .
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:46 AM
Feb 2016

standoff in 2014. There were so many photos taken, especially of the sniper on the bridge with his sight trained on the law officers, they have the identities of many of those people too.

I'm sure they're all shaking in their boots and looking over their shoulder now that they've taken old man Bundy in.

An

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
53. I agree, the whole thing was handled as well as possible
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:49 AM
Feb 2016

only Finicum, due to his stupidity, was shot

longship

(40,416 posts)
14. Good!
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

Big fan of L. Coyote excellent coverage of this story here on DU.

Lots of links to backup info.

Tremendously good work needs recognition.


Way to go!

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
18. I Wonder If Ammonnn and Clyde Can Share The Same Cell?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

Who gets to decide these things?

Do they get to wear their cowboy hats inside their cells? Aren't the hats an important part of their defense?

Perhaps they can have conjugal visits with each other. And to that effect, whatever became of that 50 gallon barrel of lube?

And is there a chance that Lavoy will somehow return disguised as a blue tarp, while he pulls an El Charo by digging them out with a spoon. Then they can all gaze at the stars together.

Finally, does anyone know if its true that Disney is pursuing the film rights to the story for a Hannah Montana prequel?

reflection

(6,286 posts)
26. It's ok, Cliven.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

We know you don't recognize the existence of the federal government, and by extension, the cage they've put you in. Just walk through the non-existent wall and leave.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
28. The U.S. Attorney's memo in opposition to release is really interesting reading.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

I had no idea Bundy doesn't actually tend to his cattle, he just let's them wander, breed, get into trouble until he wants one and then goes and wrastles it down. No branding, no round up, no cowboys, no fences, no inoculations, no feeding. Hardly ranching.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
32. Thanks Coyote,
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

I've been checking Oregon Live every day to see if there was anything new of interest, but hadn't made it there yet today.

I'm so glad to hear this.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
43. Still watching the hashtag #OregonStandoff, but the #BundyRanch crowd is trying to 'take it back'
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

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as if it is or ever was theirs.

They are supposedly trying to 'take back the narrative' by spamming the hashtag the journalists use, so I'm having to block the clowns to keep the tag useful. It really has slowed down though, now that 'their standoff' is happening behind bars.

I created the hashtag #BundyTeaParty and it gets little other use than here, so WOW what a great Google image search it is now, almost entirely created by DUers!.



DJ Rubiconski ?@Rubiconski
#PublicLands Rally – Helena #Montana - February 16, 2015


DJ Rubiconski ?@Rubiconski
#PublicLands rally packs Capitol rotunda in #Montana Monday Feb 16




 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
33. He already owes a shitload of money to the government
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

Let him pay that, then we can talk bail. She's absolutely right that he's shown a pattern of defying court orders and threatening federal agents who try to make him comply. Why would you grant somebody like that bail?

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
37. No, bail should be denied period regardless if he pays the money he owes.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

Besides the feds can and should just seize the ranch and tell him he has x number of days to pay the debt or it will be auctioned off and whatever they get for it at the auction will be used to pay the debt with any remaining still to be paid by him.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. Maybe there IS such a thing as Karma.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
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GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
41. Stay safe, Judge Stewart.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

You, too, Mr. Myhre. No telling what the kooks in his fan club will pull because of this.

Stryder

(450 posts)
44. Any news
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

on "Sniper Boy?" That was the most disturbing part of all this IMO.
From immediate threat to the life of a federal agent, to
walking carefree among us. Seems they're on this but,
that's some serious gone time.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
45. The news is more archaeological today, coprolites found
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

Usually, our Eastern Oregon coprolite news is 14,000 year old "issues" if you will.

JohnR ?@AnglerArcher 8 minutes ago
Commence poo jokes. Firearms, explosives and human feces found at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. http://s.oregonlive.com/4290r3b #Oregonstandoff



Andrew Sheeler ?@andrewsheeler
#OregonStandoff militants may have literally shit on sacred tribal sites. Because of course they did.

The FBI has found a number of firearms and explosives at the refuge — and poop.

Militants May Have Dug Latrines Near Tribal Sites
by Ryan Haas OPB | Feb. 16, 2016 4:17 p.m.

Militants who took over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon may have not only been desecrating sites that are sacred to the Burns Paiute tribe, but defecating on them as well, according to court documents filed Tuesday.




Hunter ?@huntrgathrr
Idaho bill (prepared by ALEC) allows counties to declare Public Lands a "Nuisance"
http://magicvalley.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/bill-targets-nuisance-state-and-federal-lands/article_59ba51ab-ca09-5994-91a2-5aa33838c6ac.html

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
49. Eric Parker is the iconic Bundy sniper.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:01 AM
Feb 2016

You have to wonder if he is going to be indicted. I find no indication he has been arrested or charged. I'm sure they are developing air-tight cases before bringing them. In other words, busy gathering all the evidence possible before drying up the river of broadcasting evidence that characterizes these narcissists.

Petra Vilshenko ?@petvillka1992 2 hours ago
#OregonStandoff Eric Parker says "We need to keep matching with show of force." In light of Bundy indictment, hmmm..
http://bit.ly/1oIs9MF

STOP #YallQaeda ?@Yall_Qaeda Feb 14
Eric EJ Parker needs to join Cliven on jail soon before they plan another occupation
#ArrestEricParker #YallQaeda


canannain ?@ocanannain 35 minutes ago
Why hasn't Jerry DeLemus, ‘Veteran for Trump’, been arrested along with the Bundys? .... http://thebea.st/1OInQMM #OregonStandoff #YallQaeda

JJ MacNab ?@jjmacnab Feb 14
Mel Bundy's role in the takeover of the Refuge. "Jack Johnson" was Blaine Cooper's alias when he was on the run.


always vote ?@always_vote
Audio: Dark money pushing America further to the radical right:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-16-2016-1.3449741/journalist-jane-mayer-follows-money-trail-to-billionaires-behind-radical-right-1.3449790 … #KochBrothers #OregonStandoff #BundyMilitia #USPoli

Signal31 ?@Section_131
#bundymilitia #bundyranch #Oregonstandoff #PooPartyPatriots Looks like someone ate the sugar-free gummi-dicks




WoodsyWoman ?@WoodsyWoman_OR Feb 15
More occupants at #Malheur near Frenchglen and Page Springs Campground.

Stryder

(450 posts)
60. Good to hear
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

I just read some of the charges today. Was beginning to wonder.
The snails pace seemed to be inviting more fuckery.
But it does seem they have all their dicks in a row.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
61. The more massive the grand jury's task, the longer it takes.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

But, you can count on them watching statute of limitations clocks closely. We know when they have to strike or forget it, and so do the persons of interest, the Bundy Ranch armed intervention participants. the rest of them must be shitting bullets (puns intended) after reading the Cliven filing.
They know who they are and can already add up their own sentences now.


Bundy's Bag Of Dicks @BundysBagODicks
#Oregonstandoff summary: The only thing meaner than Cliven Bundy's cattle is Cliven Bundy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/18/the-11-sickest-burns-from-the-federal-complai

dKnudson ?@edknudson
Greg Walden engaged in irresponsible rhetoric in his House speech on Malheur #Oregonstandoff. See http://www.pubtheo.com/page.asp?PID=2093

Bradley W. Parks ?@Bradley_W_Parks 3 hours ago
Cliven Bundy is on his way back to Nevada. @ksfreda reports:
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/cliven-bundy-judge-send-nevada-charges-court/

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
46. Govt cited notice from Bundy to Sheriff/Gov/Obama indicating 'We The People' will retain refuge
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

This is the notice where Cliven misspells Malheur,
then notorizes the evidence he created against himself, and sends it to the cops and to Obama!

Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian 2 hours ago
Govt cited this Feb. 1 notice from Cliven Bundy to @HarneyCoSheriff indicating 'We The People' will retain refuge


Maxine Bernstein ?@maxoregonian
Fed govt's memo seeking Cliven Bundy's detention full of references to sons Ammon & RyanRyan and their involvement in 2014 NV standoff
Asst US Attorney Steven Myhre of allegations against Cliven Bundy from 2014 standoff w/ Feds:'It's about violence. It's about raising guns.'

ocanannain ?@ocanannain
Rather than manage & control his cattle, Cliven Bundy lets them run wild on the public lands ...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/16/1486205/-34-page-doc-just-slams-Cliven-Bundy-in-court … #OregonStandoff


Holy mole. I just got done reading this and all I can say is that Cliven is truly in some deep, deep poo.

2-16-16 Doc 4 - U.S.A. v CLIVEN BUNDY - USA Detention Memorandum for Cliven Bundy

2016-02-16 4 0 Memorandum in Support of Motion by USA as to Cliven D. Bundy .....


As you may know, Cliven is in court today regarding his potential for release (on bail). After reading the entire 34 pages, all I can say is dude, congratulations. You are so incredibly screwed. ......

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
50. Here's the best part of the whole incident
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:36 AM
Feb 2016

The government knows these people are religiously misogynistic, believing their god does not allow women to hold dominion over men in any way, shape or form...so every time these turkeys have gone to court, they've been stood before a female judge.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
54. So far, 1,200 people have volunteered to help restore Malheur
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:19 AM
Feb 2016

ONDA @TheOregonDesert
Two words: Thank you! We're so appreciative of those who want to help restore Malheur. #ONDA http://buff.ly/20ChjDT


Pull barbed wire, paddle rivers & restore streams! Join an #ONDA 2016 stewardship trip. http://buff.ly/1KDKG6B

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
57. Fact Check – The Bundy Ranch Cattle & The BLM
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

John Kaser @john_kaser
Another good read about Cliven Bundy's Wild Cow Refuge 😡

Fact Check – The Bundy Ranch Cattle & The BLM

... The usual suspects have turned this into some Orwellian takeover and suppression of civil liberties, along with alleged backroom deals involving Harry Reid and Chinese solar farms. A basic fact check reveals that reality is more benign and less dramatic. Rather than taking the time to learn about and explain the history, structure and legal mandate of the BLM, as well as the multiple court cases Bundy lost and complaints from other locals and environmental groups (often confusing and overlapping) over Bundy’s trespass cattle, many ideological opportunists have seized this opportunity to portray the BLM as some shadowy organization trampling a rancher’s rights.

As The Wildlife News writes:

We hope to write more about the history of America’s public lands because the public’s lack of knowledge plays into the hands of political and media manipulators.

A few facts about the Cliven Bundy and the BLM incident ....


Brian Duffy ?@duffyink
Since they won't have anything else to do:
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/firearms_explosives_and_trench.html … #oregonstandoff #Bundymilitia #MalheurOccupation


ocanannain ?@ocanannain 12 minutes ago
Lawless Nevada Thug Cliven Bundy Gets To Stay In Jail Forever, Hooray!

http://wonkette.com/598851/lawless-nevada-thug-cliven-bundy-gets-to-stay-in-jail-forever-hooray
#OregonStandoff

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
62. PUBLIC LANDS: BLM's conundrum: What to do with Bundy's cows
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

PUBLIC LANDS: BLM's conundrum: What to do with Bundy's cows
Phil Taylor, E&E reporter Greenwire: Friday, February 26, 2016

Cliven Bundy is behind bars, but his cows remain at large..... His cattle linger as an ecological scourge to the Mojave Desert northeast of Las Vegas.

The Bundy herd, last estimated at 1,000, has trampled sensitive soils, devoured native saplings and bedded down against Native American artifacts. One of Bundy's bulls attacked a Nevada wildlife official, while others have run roughshod over a community garden and a golf course, BLM said.

BLM and its allies -- following court orders -- want Bundy's cows gone from the public lands surrounding his Bunkerville, Nev., ranch, and particularly Gold Butte, a 350,000-acre mesa of Joshua trees, cacti and creosote bushes below the snow-dusted Virgin Peak.

But removing Bundy's ornery, battle-tested herd -- estimated by one Nevada official to be worth up to $800,000 -- will be expensive, logistically difficult and potentially dangerous.

"It's like hunting cape buffalo," ...........


Northend.org ?@thenorthend
"Bishop is irresponsibly fanning the flames militant radicalism in the West"
#Oregonstandoff #bundymilitia
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/3577972-155/op-ed-bishop-is-fanning-the-flames

Thomas Reich ?@gollum1419_g Feb 26
Malheur Invaders Mooched At Local Senior Center Food Bank
https://shar.es/1CpRL7 via @sharethis #BundyMilitia #RuggedIndividualists?

Mrs. Christ ?@JesusWife Feb 25
Police try in vain to control a massive gathering of #BundyMilitia supporters demonstrating outside the courthouse.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
59. Cliven Bundy, A. Bundy, R. Bundy, Santilli, Payne face federal indictment in NV
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:15 AM
Feb 2016
Cliven Bundy, 4 others face federal indictment in Nevada
By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive February 17, 2016 at 6:28 PM

The indictment charges the four with 16 felonies, including one count of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, one count of conspiring to impede or injure a federal officer, four counts of carrying a firearm in a crime of violence, two counts of assault on a federal officer, two counts of threatening a federal law enforcement officer, three counts of obstructing justice, two counts of interfering with interstate commerce by extortion and one count of interstate travel in aid of extortion.

It also alleges five counts of criminal forfeiture. If convicted, the defendants would be required to forfeit property obtained from the proceeds of their crimes, totaling at least $3 million, as well as the forfeiture of firearms and ammunition used in the April 12, 2014, standoff with federal authorities.

"The rule of law has been reaffirmed with these charges,'' said Nevada's U.S. Attorney Daniel G. Bogden, in a prepared statement. "Persons who use force and violence against federal law enforcement officers who are enforcing court orders and nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others, will be brought to justice.'' .......

According to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Nevada, the maximum penalties for the Nevada-based charges are 5 years for conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S., 6 years for conspiracy to impede and injure a federal officer; 20 years for assault on a federal officer; 10 years for threatening a federal law enforcement officer; 10 years for obstruction of justice, 20 years for interfering with interstate commerce by extortion, 20 years for interstate travel in aid of extortion and a five-year minimum for using and carrying a firearm in a crime of violence......


[center]Don't you love how these people record and publish (even notorize) their crimes.



carolealana ?@carolealana
Essentially Life, some figure 171 yrs? #Oregonstandoff

David Tyler ?@Ardhen723
@petvillka1992 ahh incorrect my dear 16 counts carry 5-20y each so they face 80-320y for NV alone #Oregonstandoff @RealLisaBundy #Bummer4U

Petra Vilshenko @petvillka1992
#OregonStandoff 180 years + maybe another 60 after the #Malheur investigation = 240 years, or how long the US has been around

http://www.scribd.com/doc/299614689/US-v-Bundy-Bundy-Bundy-Payne-Santilli

Conrad Wilson Verified account ?@conradjwilson 47 minutes ago
LATEST: Bundy Family, Supporters Face 16 Federal Felonies For 2014 Standoff
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/bundy-family-supporters-face-16-federal-felonies-for-2014-standoff/

Change4good ?@Change4good1 41m41 minutes ago
Major FRUITCake that's all that needs to be said about this. #oregonstandoff
Refuge occupier seeks $666 billion in damages 'from works of devil'

Not THE Al @allatta
#OregonStandoff Most satisfying aspect of this whole ordeal is that these loons have done irreparable damage to whatever their "cause" is.
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