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mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:00 PM Feb 2016

Nevada’s most powerful Latino turnout machine is sitting this race out

Source: MSNBC

LAS VEGAS – Minority voters on Saturday will play a critical role for the very first time this election, and yet, the major powerhouse that typically drives Latinos to the polls is instead staying out of the process almost entirely. Nevada’s influential Culinary Union has shied away from activating its massive voter mobilization machine, leaving the bulk of its political organizing on ice after union leaders decided to hold back on endorsing a presidential candidate just yet. But Culinary is not just declining to chose sides. In fact, the union has done uncharacteristically little to ensure that its 57,000 members – nearly half of whom are Hispanic – will turn out to caucus on Saturday. ...

The union’s absence from the political process is a major hit to the campaigns and state Democratic leaders hoping to see voter turnout exceed expectations. Nevada only just gained its early-state status in the Democratic primary in 2008, largely thanks to its growing Latino population, which now stands at more than 17 percent of eligible voters. But many voters are still new to caucusing. Language barriers add an extra layer of intimidation to an already unfamiliar process.

...

There are signs that the Clinton campaign is feeling anxious about its lock on Latino voters without Culinary to draw members to caucus. A flurry of top Clinton surrogates and icons in the Latino community have worked the circuit of hotels and casinos along the Las Vegas strip, meeting with housekeepers, bartenders and “back of house” workers in break rooms during their time off.

Dolores Huerta, a legendary civil rights activist with the United Farm Workers union, and Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine courted casino workers this week. Rep. Luis Gutiérrez, a prominent backer of comprehensive immigration reform, met with union leaders in Las Vegas the week before. Huerta, a longtime Clinton supporter, said she was so disappointed to find that Culinary workers were not even aware of the approaching caucus that she planned to take issue up with union leaders directly.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/nevadas-most-powerful-latino-turnout-machine-sitting-out-race



LOL at Clinton surrogates accosting these poor union workers in their breaks rooms after the Clinton campaign lambasted Sanders supporters for the last month for doing the exact same thing.
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Nevada’s most powerful Latino turnout machine is sitting this race out (Original Post) mhatrw Feb 2016 OP
Clinton has not worked in her home state of New York for an increase in federal minimum wage DhhD Feb 2016 #1
Bills that'll be going nowhere Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #12
Members support Bernie? Ned Flanders Feb 2016 #2
Probably not. MisterFred Feb 2016 #9
Hrm MisterFred Feb 2016 #11
I have super mixed feelings about this story. blackspade Feb 2016 #3
Yes I do not care which dem they caucus for as much as I care they show up GOTV Person 2713 Feb 2016 #5
Exactly. You don't have to endorse one candidate to participate in democracy. mhatrw Feb 2016 #14
Been thinking about this. elleng Feb 2016 #4
Not Good rpannier Feb 2016 #6
I agree with Huerta. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #7
No, mhatrw, they did not do the "exact same thing." The Sanders aides posed as union members. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #8
Meh, that was after they decided to not endorse. MisterFred Feb 2016 #10
Then how did the Clinton supporters "gain access" without buttons? mhatrw Feb 2016 #15
The Clinton supporters did not misrepresent who they were, unlike the Sanders aides. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #17
OBVIOUSLY the elites play by DIFFERENT rules. mhatrw Feb 2016 #19
No, they play by the same rules. Sanders could have ASKED to speak with the union members. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #20
Just who did Clinton's cronies get their special permission from? mhatrw Feb 2016 #21
Why didn't Sanders just ask? Why did his campaign resort to subterfuge? SunSeeker Feb 2016 #23
Want bitch and moan and then stay home? Push... Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #13
Let's see. Because "one" does not speak English well? mhatrw Feb 2016 #16
The second portion may be more plausible as caucusing is 'newer' in Nevada. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #18
The leaders want Clinton, the rank and file want Bernie. marble falls Feb 2016 #22

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
1. Clinton has not worked in her home state of New York for an increase in federal minimum wage
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

whereas, Sanders has been working for a long time on living wage. Senator Sanders and colleagues have Bills on minimum wage in Congressional committees.

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
2. Members support Bernie?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

Are they sitting it out because union leadership are concerned that the majority of its members support Bernie Sanders?

I caught part of an interview with a Hispanic gentleman who was conspicuously quiet about Bernie, while politely praising Hillary. Sorry I didn't catch his name, but the odd bit was that this guy said he recently switched to the Republican party, after 48 years as a Democrat.

MisterFred

(525 posts)
9. Probably not.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

I was reading a story a few weeks ago that said there's some pretty bad blood between the Culinary Workers & Hillary from back in the 2008 election. They theory was that leadership would have supported her & turned on the turnout machine, except she pissed them off.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
3. I have super mixed feelings about this story.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

On one hand I like it that the CU is not endorsing either candidate.
But the fact that they are not motivating their members to caucus does their members and the Democratic party no favors.
I would have liked to see them GOTV as a matter of policy regardless of partisan leanings.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
5. Yes I do not care which dem they caucus for as much as I care they show up GOTV
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

The union workers need to be engaged if they want to change the state primary outcome. It won't happen at home , or even on overtime unfortunately

rpannier

(24,334 posts)
6. Not Good
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

They should have let their members know they were not endorsing but should have told them when the two caucuses are

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. I agree with Huerta.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:13 PM
Feb 2016

I don't care who the CU didn't endorse, but unions are a key player in the democratic process. I wouldn't care if every last member caucused for Bernie-- this is labor malpractice.

SunSeeker

(51,662 posts)
8. No, mhatrw, they did not do the "exact same thing." The Sanders aides posed as union members.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders Aides Accused of Posing as Union Members to Access Hotels in Las Vegas
http://gawker.com/bernie-sanders-aides-accused-of-posing-as-union-members-1755793927

The Culinary union was incensed about what the Sanders aides did. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511083889

The Clinton supporters did not misrepresent who they were, they did not gain access to otherwise secure union break rooms posing as union members with union buttons, like the Sanders aides did.

MisterFred

(525 posts)
10. Meh, that was after they decided to not endorse.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:39 AM
Feb 2016

They may or may not have been incensed, but it didn't affect their efforts or lack thereof in the race.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
15. Then how did the Clinton supporters "gain access" without buttons?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:21 AM
Feb 2016

Seriously, how did Clinton supporters "gain access" to the break rooms of these union members?

What special top 0.1% channels did they have to go through to "gain access" denied to supporters of a non-elite candidate?

SunSeeker

(51,662 posts)
17. The Clinton supporters did not misrepresent who they were, unlike the Sanders aides.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:01 AM
Feb 2016

From your link:

The Sanders campaign has also tried to reach the union’s membership directly. But supporters last month damaged their standing with the union after Sanders staffers posed as union employees to gain access to casino worker break rooms. Union leaders said they were “disappointed and offended” by the stunt. Sanders’ campaign spokesman later apologized.


The Clinton supporters, most of whom were public figures known to the union members, were obviously allowed in by the union members or union leaders at the various locations they visited, most of which were not "break rooms." No one has compained about them misrepresenting who they were or otherwise pulling a stunt like the Sanders campaign.


mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
19. OBVIOUSLY the elites play by DIFFERENT rules.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:24 AM
Feb 2016

THEY can go WHEREVER and do WHATEVER they damn well please, unlike us peons who are restricted from expressing ourselves unless we have previously obtained documented establishment approval

SunSeeker

(51,662 posts)
20. No, they play by the same rules. Sanders could have ASKED to speak with the union members.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:36 AM
Feb 2016

Instead, the campaign pulled the masquerade stunt.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
21. Just who did Clinton's cronies get their special permission from?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:31 AM
Feb 2016

Who exactly told them it was OK for them to accost union members in their break rooms in order to advocate for Clinton?

SunSeeker

(51,662 posts)
23. Why didn't Sanders just ask? Why did his campaign resort to subterfuge?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:34 PM
Feb 2016

And per your link, most of the Clinton supporter encounters were in public spaces, so it does not appear an ask was needed.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
13. Want bitch and moan and then stay home? Push...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:14 AM
Feb 2016

I don't have the time or patience for this crap. It's plain laziness.

I'm not in a union but I support them. However, if people can't get out and vote on their own, it's hard to have sympathy when people complain. How can one not be aware of an election/caucus?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
16. Let's see. Because "one" does not speak English well?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:26 AM
Feb 2016

Or because "one" is not well acquainted with the bizarre historical caucusing traditions of a small number of US states?

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
18. The second portion may be more plausible as caucusing is 'newer' in Nevada.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

When it comes to the 'not speaking english well', they'd have to know a decent amount to be a citizen and or registered.

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