Obama is God, and the TPP is his will. God wills it!

to insure the cash will flow after he leaves office.

to the economy, Middle-class, Labor Unions and US sovereignty

great.

And Hillary wants to continue this shit. god help us

The system is too ossified, and sclerotic.

These sell-outs just hasten that collapse...

maybe it just needs to be torn down before it can be rebuilt at this point.

and shit like this, and Hillary or Trump in the WH oughta do it.

you have obviously not been paying attention for years.

VOte for her! She's only a right-wing Democrat.

I have no confidence that she will prevent any of the safety-nets from being destroyed. Especially Social Security and Medicare.

Settle For Hillary - Business as Usual.

NT.

SO much better than the three-quarter pounder. There's motivation!

Of a truth so studiously and strenuously ignored.

If we actually have to explain it to them, they would never understand.

Unlike Obama who actively tried to cut SS. Also, you meme is off. She was not a Repug when she was on the board of Walmart. She took the job because Sam promised to increase greatly the percentage of American goods in Walmart stores, and he did just that. Why are you lying about her? IF she's the general nominee, are you going to vote for her or vote for a repug by your abstinence? If it's the later, you will be choosing to put someone in office who is promising to cut SS and Medicare and wages and jobs and raising taxes on the poor while cutting them on the rich. YOU will have chosen this over your (unsubstantiated) fear that she might (she won't) cut 1 or 2 of those, really? Tell you one thing, Bernie would not approve.

BTW, I will be voting for Bernie in the primary and hopefully the general as well. I will do everything humanly possible to make sure no repug is president, including voting for HRC if she's the general election nominee.

SHe's been asked if she will protect SS and MC and there were crickets.

Go to her web site and read her statements on SS and MC. THEY ARE WEASEL Sentences! THey describe a couple of very specific point and leave open a gap you can drive a truck through. See how large of a truck you can drive through the triangulation

I don't trust her.

shit, ok here

Demand lower prices for prescription drugs for seniors receiving Medicare.
"Demand" ... i.e. beg in harsh tones? And what about the rest of the country that pays 5 times what the rest of the world pays? How about forcing the greedy bastards into submission?


Expand Social Security benefits for widows and those who took time out of the paid workforce to care for a child or sick family member.
expanding for widows and sick leave is fine but WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US?

It depends on what your definition of the word IS, is.

I do not trust her.

-------------------------------- HOLY SHIT! She's triangulated again!!

SHe's 'updated' her website - very recently! The statements above (bold) were from her website a week or two ago. below is from tonight - significantly expanded statements ! NOt long ago this shit wasnt out there. SO she felt forced to channel Bernie again. Why would you believe that she will hold to anything she has flipflopped on?

Hillary will:

Fight any effort to privatize or weaken Medicare and Social Security, and expand Social Security for future generations by asking the wealthiest to contribute more.

Reform our health care system to incentivize and reward quality care.

Demand lower prices for prescription drugs for seniors receiving Medicare.

Expand Social Security benefits for widows and those who took time out of the paid workforce to care for a child or sick family member.

As long as there is beer and football ...

We will get by

...would mean that poor people in other nations can't buy medicine, because enforcing patents makes the medicine unaffordable.

That's why Doctors Without Borders opposes the TPP.

a huge lift to disadvantaged A-P countries. How much will benefit the people vs. the multinational corporations is an issue I don't know enough about and am skeptical.

I wonder of it has occurred to him why the unions are not happy with him?

He doesn't appear to be very concerned about it.

"He doesn't appear to be very concerned about it"

Because he doesn't need his "base" when he has the suddenly ready-to-cooperate republicans to help him along on this.

What a bizarre turn.

Track or votes vote the TPP and/or the TPIP.

Boy, did we get sold down the river - and yeah,

in Asia, not in the US.

And Hillary will lie about the TPP right up until it passes. In fact, I bet there is quite the push to have it passed so it is not a campaign issue for Hillary. So she won't have to lie and say she is against it, thereby giving the (false) impression she is not with Obama on this.

Sorry, Obama, you have done absolutely nothing for labor and have totally disregarded labor during your 8 years in office. Funny, never saw you speak out for the people of WI and for teachers when Walker was destroying the union. You never went there, not once. You are also totally wrong in pushing this atrocity and job killer named TPP. Your legacy will always be tainted by this wage and job killing bill which would also demolish environmental standards.

... nor do you deserve to be. Do you really want this to be your legacy? Allowing a corporate coup d'etat is bad enough, but actively promoting it? No. There will be no forgiveness. NOBODY with a molecule of humanity is "happy with you on this." And make no mistake, the corporatists and their Third Way enablers will pay for their perfidy.

Its demise is the most optimistic outcome.

election. He also has concerns about language in the deal pertaining to tobacco products, a major export from his home state.

Ryan dealt a blow to the sweeping trade deal two weeks ago, saying it does not yet have enough votes to pass the House.

The 2016 presidential campaign has also scrambled the politics of trade. While Republicans are traditionally supportive of free trade, the party’s presidential frontrunner, Donald Trump, has slammed Obama’s trade agenda.

Both Democratic candidates, former secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), oppose the deal.

Obama seems to be pushing for an early vote while McConnell and Ryan want to wait until after the election. A republican congress passing a "legacy-defining accomplishment for Obama" probably would not go over very well with the base (which hates "Obamatrade&quot during the republican primary. I don't understand why Obama thinks an early vote is a good idea.

She says she's against the TPP.

If she gave a speech urging Democratic members of Congress to vote No, then people like Claire McCaskill would vote No.

I'm not sure about Hillary Clinton's Congressional endorsers such as Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO).

Michael Hudson makes the case that TPP would return us back to feuldalism:

http://michael-hudson.com/2016/02/the-commanding-heights/

(snip)
The cover story pretends to be about trade, but the real agenda is to force privatization and disable government regulation. This reverses what was central to the whole Progressive Era. For the last 300 years, the assumption of Europe and North America was that you were going to have a mixed economy, with governments investing in infrastructure, roads and other transportation, communications, water and sewer systems, gas and electricity. The role of government infrastructure was to provide these basic needs at minimum cost in order to promote a low-cost, competitive economy. That’s how America got rich. That’s how Germany industrialized and how the rest of Europe did. But the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership is to reverse and privatize public investment. Its ideology is that the economy should be owned and operated by private owners, private enterprise, whose aim is short-term profit.

There are a number of related aims: to nullify environmental protection regulations that cost money, to nullify protection of labor, and to nullify attempts to tax natural resources or economic rent. The idea is to turn roads and the transport system into toll roads, which will be owned by foreigners and run at a high charge. The Internet and the water system will be sold off and made into toll systems, to charge for their services and for other basic needs. This will impose a neo-feudal rentier economy throughout the world as the finance, industrial and real estate (FIRE) sector takes over the government sector.

I think you could say that at the broadest level, the idea is to roll back the Enlightenment and restore feudalism. That may sound like an extreme statement, but people don’t realize how radical the TPP’s investment agreements are. For instance, when Australia raised the charges on cigarettes and included health warnings on the packs, Philip Morris sued, insisting that Australia pay it what Philip Morris would have made if people would have continued to smoke and get cancer at the existing rate. . .

has ever been the dream of the American oligarchy/plutocracy.

They're not stalling to allow the American People to VOTE On it

for the NEXT President????

I am shocked!

is valid on this issue as well, yet the GOP are silent

It's long term important

The American people should vote on it

So the GOP talking points on the Supreme Court are hollow

and their attitude on this issue is the proof

Free and Fair Trade. We have also sought to promote free and fair trade. Because of the economic dynamism of the Asia-Pacific region, which is already home to more than half the global economy, expanding trade with that region is critical to creating jobs and opportunities for the American people. Building on the free trade agreement with South Korea that President Obama signed, we are working with our partners in the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum to create a seamless regional economy, promote green growth, and coordinate regulatory reform. Alongside Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Chile, Malaysia, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam, we are on track to finalize the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a historic high-standard agreement that will address new and emerging trade issues, lower barriers to the free flow of trade and investment, increase exports, and create more American jobs. Exploring opportunities to shape the multilateral trading system to reflect the role and responsibility of major emerging markets in the global economy is a critical part of the President's trade agenda.

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

Sanders IS!!!

Fight the Change...

where corporate profits take priority over the rights and needs of the American people.

As Hillary will be, if she prevails.

If only the corporate media actually went out of its way to explain what the TPP will entail.

Since they'll likely benefit mightily, not gonna happen.

So many patriots.

I feel like this should be some kind of satire article that links to the Onion or something.

Dude, we know you never went looking for your "comfortable pair of shoes". It's ok to stop pretending now.

Obama has sold out his constituents who would not have voted for him if they knew he would support such a measure. He is willing to make a deal with the same GOP that wanted to make him a one term president and is still disrespecting him against the opposition of his own supporters. He has been far too soft on the labor side. I was never a Obama bot but I do support many of the things he has done but I can't get behind TPP. Nor will I forgive it.

Every single word.

Amazing the glibness in which the irony is glossed over: The GOP are now his big buddies. Flabbergasting; but maybe no so much so....if you follow the money.

he will, in his post--presidential years be rewarded so lavishly that what TPTB showered upon the Clintons will look like the change you and I find in the sofa.

The final sell-out of governmental power to unaccountable corporate power.

Why did I vote for this guy in 2012? This is the same thing Rmoney would have done.

Any doubts that Donald Trump has had a huge (as he might say) influence on the Republican Party were dispelled this month when Ohio Sen. Rob Portman came out against the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Portman is up for re-election, and Trump has changed the dynamics of the trade debate. The senator voted last year to give President Barack Obama fast-track negotiating authority on trade agreements, which was intended to pave the way for pushing the 12-nation Pacific Rim deal through Congress. But early this month he said he was opposed to the agreement.

Republicans used to be the protectionist party. They authored the infamous Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930. After World War II, when the U.S. emerged as a global superpower, both parties essentially embraced the nation's role as a leader in the world's economic recovery. But a generation ago, Democrats, prodded by labor, began to change their stance because too many workers were being displaced by globalization. It was left to a couple of Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, working with Republicans, to embrace and enact trade measures.

In this election season, however, Trump has set the agenda, and no presidential candidate is carrying a free-trade banner. The billionaire charges that America's "political hacks and diplomats" have been taken to the cleaners on trade deals that have cost millions of jobs, He vows to undo Clinton's North American Free Trade Agreement, dump the proposed TPP and go after Mexico, Japan and China on trade. He has suggested a 35 percent tax on cars imported from Mexico. He also advocated a 45 percent tax on imports from China (he has denied that he made that proposal, but his words were captured on tape).

Trump was the runaway winner of South Carolina's Republican primary on Saturday and trumpeted his protectionism in his victory speech. That's a message that will resonate in financial and trade capitals around the world.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-wp-blm-hunt-b8b542f2-d969-11e5-8210-f0bd8de915f6-20160222-story.html

The effect Trump has had on their party's trade discussion is amazing. He sounds like George Wallace and Pat Buchanan from long-ago in terms of trade but they never had the kind of impact he is having.

It will breeze right through both Houses and be signed by the end of the day.

NO SHIT, SHERLOCK !

in Congress to advance the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal."


For "pro-trade.." read fascists.

Even though Kevin Stine is young and not as experienced as I'd like, I believe many of us here should vote for him to send a message to those who want to sell us out with this Free trade BULLSHIT!


http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/fundraising-emails-politicians-cry-wolf/