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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:17 PM Feb 2016

USAF Test Launches Unarmed Minuteman III Ballistic Missile

Source: Airforce Technology

The US Air Force (USAF) Global Strike Command Airmen has tested an unarmed Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) installed with a test re-entry vehicle from Vandenberg Air Force Base (AFB), California.

The ICBM's re-entry vehicle consisted of a telemetry package used for operational testing. The vehicle travelled around 4,200 miles to the Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands.

This test launch was aimed at verifying accuracy and reliability of the ICBM weapon system, providing valuable data to ensure a safe, secure and effective nuclear deterrent.

USAF 576th Flight Test Squadron (FLTS) commander colonel Craig Ramsey, said: "The flight test program demonstrates one part of the operational capability if the ICBM weapon system.

Read more: http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newsusaf-test-launches-unarmed-minuteman-iii-ballistic-missile-4817786

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USAF Test Launches Unarmed Minuteman III Ballistic Missile (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2016 OP
"visible message of national security" is what they call this shit now? arcane1 Feb 2016 #1
Some high-speed video from the atoll would be cool to see. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #2
From a little bit of googling, the Minuteman III is accurate to about 200m Massacure Feb 2016 #4
I was stationed at Vandenberg AFB... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2016 #9
One less now. Owl Feb 2016 #3
Hasn't the USG done enough damage to the Marshall Islands already? FairWinds Feb 2016 #5
I am pretty sure that this time the USG cleaned up the mess. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #6
Hey Mr. Maniac . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #10
You seem to be referring to the bomb tests decades ago. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #12
a test of the navigation and delivery systems. FairWinds Feb 2016 #13
The rest of your post is missing. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #14
Can you read this? FairWinds Feb 2016 #15
Much better. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #18
You do know that the warhead was just a test dummy warhead don't you? GGJohn Feb 2016 #7
Yes, I know that . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #11
Article Six??? RantinRavin Feb 2016 #21
.... GGJohn Feb 2016 #23
And if you think that nuclear weapons keep you safe . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #16
Well they certainly kept the Soviets at bay during the Cold War, GGJohn Feb 2016 #17
Your guns keep you as safe as an Uber driver FairWinds Feb 2016 #20
LOL, GGJohn Feb 2016 #22
No, you're not a democrat because you are to the . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #28
Whatever you say dude, whatever you say. GGJohn Feb 2016 #31
Always got to play war. alarimer Feb 2016 #8
I am curious as to what they were testing exactly and why... PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #19
Probably an upgraded guidance package. eom. GGJohn Feb 2016 #24
probably testing Russia's reaction to our launching it. olddad56 Feb 2016 #26
The Military routinely tests weapons for reliability Abnredleg Feb 2016 #27
Funny how many people got their knickers in a twist when Fat Kim did the same ... Nihil Feb 2016 #25
I've known a number of people who have worked . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #29
... GGJohn Feb 2016 #32
If you read the article I'll be glad to have an exchange . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #33
You accuse me of not being a true Democrat and then you claim you want to have an exchange? GGJohn Feb 2016 #35
And that is a nice quote from Jimmy Carter you have there . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #34
... GGJohn Feb 2016 #36
That is what is known as . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #37
Thanks, GGJohn Feb 2016 #38
hey kids duck & cover olddots Feb 2016 #30
PEACE...through superior fire power. GOLGO 13 Feb 2016 #39

Massacure

(7,525 posts)
4. From a little bit of googling, the Minuteman III is accurate to about 200m
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

The 200 meter accuracy (about 650 feet) seemed low to me at first. Playing around with an explosion calculator online though, a 300 kt weapon like that on the Minuteman can be used extend a 5 psi pressure wave out for nearly 3 miles (if detonated at an altitude of 6,800 feet) or a 20 psi pressure wave out for just under 1.2 miles (if detonated at an altitude of 4000 feet). The military probably considers 650 feet "close enough" that it doesn't warrant upgrade an inertial guidance system to GPS.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
9. I was stationed at Vandenberg AFB...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

For 3yrs & got to see many different rocket & missile launches. There is a very active private space port there as well. Really cool!!!

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
5. Hasn't the USG done enough damage to the Marshall Islands already?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:15 PM
Feb 2016

They were well and truly nuked by the US during the 1940's and 1950's.

This makes me ashamed to be an American and a veteran.

And this is a clear case of moral blindness. These AF types know very well
that what they are doing is wrong, but they do it anyway because of $$$.

Shame on them.

Veterans For Peace Golden Rule Project - aiming to put a stop
to this madness.

I'm not a very religious person, but if these weapons do not merit the
label of "Satanic", I don't know what does.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
10. Hey Mr. Maniac . .
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

No, they did not clean up the mess. The USG effort was half-assed at best, and several islands are still uninhabitable.

For one thing they left pure plutonium laying around (some was just shoved into the lagoon) on Bikini Atoll.

Veterans For Peace is on top of this issue, and I was proud to be part of the crew of the Golden Rule.

http://www.vfpgoldenruleproject.org/

As Robert McNamara noted, the combination of nukes and human fallibility will lead to the "death of nations." We need to seriously get rid of them. It can be done.

For Jeebus sake, even Kissinger is opposed to them !!

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
12. You seem to be referring to the bomb tests decades ago.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

This test contained no bombs. It was a test of the navigation and delivery systems.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
15. Can you read this?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

but that dummy warhead confirms US violation of Article Six of the NPT.

And testing there is just a tad disrespectful, don't you think? The Marshallese were gravely damaged by the earlier tests, and have a lawsuit pending against the nuke powers.

To me, it's a good example of environmental racism.

Meaning, if you think those tests are so benign, how about if we conduct them in a farm field near your home?

Veterans For Peace

(I was proud to crew on the restored Golden Rule's first voyage last year.)

http://www.vfpgoldenruleproject.org/

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
18. Much better.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:23 AM
Feb 2016

Plenty of military gun ranges around here. If the USAF wants to test some more guidance and delivery systems around here, I doubt that I would notice but for the news headlines it would generate.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
11. Yes, I know that . .
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:34 PM
Feb 2016

but that dummy warhead confirms US violation of Article Six of the NPT.

And testing there is just a tad disrespectful, don't you think? The Marshallese were gravely damaged by the earlier tests, and have a lawsuit pending against the nuke powers.

To me, it's a good example of environmental racism.

Meaning, if you think those tests are so benign, how about if we conduct them in a farm field near your home?

Veterans For Peace

(I was proud to crew on the restored Golden Rule's first voyage last year.)

http://www.vfpgoldenruleproject.org/

RantinRavin

(507 posts)
21. Article Six???
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:39 AM
Feb 2016

Article VI

Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
23. ....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016
but that dummy warhead confirms US violation of Article Six of the NPT.


How does this violate Article 6 of the NPT?

(I was proud to crew on the restored Golden Rule's first voyage last year.)


And this means what? Is this supposed to impress me?
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
16. And if you think that nuclear weapons keep you safe . .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:20 AM
Feb 2016

you probably think that guns keep you safe as well.

Guess what, they don't

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
17. Well they certainly kept the Soviets at bay during the Cold War,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:23 AM
Feb 2016

it was called MAD, as in Mutually Assured Destruction, so, yes, in a way, they did keep us safe.

And my firearms do keep us safe and well fed.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
20. Your guns keep you as safe as an Uber driver
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:37 AM
Feb 2016

MAD was, and is, mad.

There is a whole literature out there McNamara, Gen. Dan Butler,
even Kissinger for Jebeus sake.

I do not think that you are a democrat . . you are not thoughtful enough.

Come on, fess up

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
22. LOL,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016
I do not think that you are a democrat . . you are not thoughtful enough.


So because I disagree with you, that means I'm not a Democrat?
Too fucking funny.

Like I really give a rat's ass what you think.
Have a nice life.
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
28. No, you're not a democrat because you are to the . .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

right of Henry Kissinger.

Veterans For Peace

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
31. Whatever you say dude, whatever you say.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

BTW, I don't believe for one second that your a member of Veterans For Peace.
See, I can through around wild accusations also.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
8. Always got to play war.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016

Nothing better to do.

I would think they've been tested enough at this point.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
19. I am curious as to what they were testing exactly and why...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:16 AM
Feb 2016

Were there recent upgrades to these? I mean, these have been around since the 70's, right?

Abnredleg

(670 posts)
27. The Military routinely tests weapons for reliability
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:57 PM
Feb 2016

Missiles and rockets have a defined shelf-live, and weapons are routinely pulled from the inventory and sent to the test ranges to make sure they operate properly. Of particular concern are the solid fuel engines, since there is the danger of chemical changes to the fuel that may effect reliability.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
25. Funny how many people got their knickers in a twist when Fat Kim did the same ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

... and yet all should be peace & tranquility when USAF Global Strike Command do it ...

Ah well, here's to a "safe, secure and effective nuclear deterrent" ...


 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
29. I've known a number of people who have worked . .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

around nuclear weapons - from scientists to airmen.

Every single one of them knew what they were doing was wrong.

Once you figure out that nuclear weapons are satanic, and that is not hard to do,
you no longer have the right to remain silent, or to be complicit.

Here is an essay I wrote on the 50th anniversary of the
Cuban Missile Crisis

http://otherwords.org/more_lucky_than_brilliant/

Veterans For Peace

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
33. If you read the article I'll be glad to have an exchange . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

of views with you.

http://otherwords.org/more_lucky_than_brilliant/

But somehow I don't think you are interested in that . .

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
35. You accuse me of not being a true Democrat and then you claim you want to have an exchange?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:50 AM
Feb 2016

Really?
I may have have been born at night, but I wasn't born last night.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
34. And that is a nice quote from Jimmy Carter you have there . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:30 AM
Feb 2016

but incinerating kids is pretty much what nukes are all about.

So you probly ought to remove that quote from your page, or else
re-think your nuke views.

Do I criticize other countries much? Well, I've studied and traveled
in about fifty of them and have pretty much criticized them all.

How about you?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
36. ...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:52 AM
Feb 2016
So you probly ought to remove that quote from your page, or else
re-think your nuke views.


Nope, don't think I will.

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