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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:23 PM Feb 2016

Alabama man killed after tracking stolen cell phone with app

Source: Reuters

Alabama man killed after tracking stolen cell phone with app

By David Beasley
Reuters
February 22, 2016

(Reuters) - An Alabama man who used a computer app to track down his stolen cell phone was shot and killed when he tried to retrieve it from the suspected thief, police said on Monday.

The 23-year-old victim’s phone was stolen from his car in Fairfield, Alabama, a suburb of Birmingham, said Fairfield Police Chief Leon Davis.

The tracking app led the victim to a church parking lot near Miles College late on Sunday, Davis said.

The man is believed to have “arrived on the scene and hit a button on the app that made the phone ring inside a vehicle,” the police chief said in an interview. “When he went to retrieve the phone inside the vehicle, the suspect shot and killed him.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/alabama-man-killed-tracking-stolen-cell-phone-app-223609971.html

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Alabama man killed after tracking stolen cell phone with app (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2016 OP
Poor guy. What a tragedy. trillion Feb 2016 #1
“When he went to retrieve the phone inside the vehicle" ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #2
Yes, huge circumstance that will allow the killer to skate. ToxMarz Feb 2016 #3
Maybe, maybe not. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #4
Alabama is a stand your ground state ToxMarz Feb 2016 #8
Before you can claim SYG, ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #17
If you have a valid self defense claim, there is no need for SYG ToxMarz Feb 2016 #18
SYG does not work that way. ManiacJoe Feb 2016 #19
Not when eluding after a crime CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #20
Maybe. State law varies. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #5
Under Alabama law the shooter simply needs to say... Xithras Feb 2016 #9
All the shooter really has to say "Hey, we are in Alabama". olddad56 Feb 2016 #10
Same thing happened here in Ontario last year when a kid used Find My Phone to track down Chakab Feb 2016 #6
I'll never understand stealing stupid phones hibbing Feb 2016 #7
but it didn't happen in America, it happened in Alabama. olddad56 Feb 2016 #11
They're portable and have a relatively high resale value. surrealAmerican Feb 2016 #12
(it was a smart phone. But I don't understand stealing those either.) lastlib Feb 2016 #14
Well, people will steal--and kill for--Air Jordans or other status sneakers. tblue37 Feb 2016 #15
A Church Parking Lot? lefty2000 Feb 2016 #13
Use a tracfone! Even the smart ones aren't worth stealing! LOL! MADem Feb 2016 #16
 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
1. Poor guy. What a tragedy.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

I've only seen articles where police refuse to go after cell phones and tablets when people try to show them they have the device tracker software installed and know where it is.

"The victim and the shooter apparently knew each other, Davis said. The suspect has not been arrested but police have “very good leads” as to his identity, he added."

This adds a whole new level. I will guess they caught the killer.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
2. “When he went to retrieve the phone inside the vehicle"
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

That sounds a lot like "breaking and entering", which often gets one shot.

If you are not going to bring the police with you when you try to get the phone back, at least bring a friend.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
3. Yes, huge circumstance that will allow the killer to skate.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

and no one to testify against him in the theft case.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
4. Maybe, maybe not.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

Breaking into a car usually does not qualify for lethal force defense. Check your state laws.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
17. Before you can claim SYG,
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

you first have to claim self defense.
If that claim does not hold legally for your lethal defense, you never get to the SYG part.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
18. If you have a valid self defense claim, there is no need for SYG
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:43 AM
Feb 2016

That's the whole purpose of SYG laws, you do not have to rely on self defense claims. Use the Google, it's your friend.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. Maybe. State law varies.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

Here in seattle, someone shot a guy in the back for breaking into his car, grabbing the speaker box, and running away. Shooter went to jail for murder.

Shooter in this case will probably have to show he or she was in fear for their own life to skate. (And be eligible to have a pistol on them in the first place, highly unlikely for a phone thief.)

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
9. Under Alabama law the shooter simply needs to say...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:54 PM
Feb 2016

1. "I found the iPhone on the ground. It was in my car because I'd just picked it up. I didn't know if it was lost or stolen."

2. "The guy was breaking into my car, and it looked like he had a gun. I thought my life was in danger."

Alabama is a Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine state. The shooter can prove that the victim was committing a crime by breaking into his car. Unless the police can prove that the phone was stolen BY THE SHOOTER, the shooter only needs to establish that he thought his life was in danger.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
7. I'll never understand stealing stupid phones
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

But I guess that's just me, I find it really dumb. What a screwed up country we live in, or what ! would call it.....America.

Peace

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
12. They're portable and have a relatively high resale value.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

They are what pocket watches were in the nineteenth century - an easy target for thieves.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
14. (it was a smart phone. But I don't understand stealing those either.)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:52 AM
Feb 2016

Let alone killing someone over one.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
15. Well, people will steal--and kill for--Air Jordans or other status sneakers.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

Like iPhones, they have a high resale value, and they are status markers.

lefty2000

(177 posts)
13. A Church Parking Lot?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016

I wonder if the thief and murderer was a member of the congregation? If so, he can pray to be forgiven.

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