But wonder (based on your "this is a start" comment) what the ultimate goal should be.

Instant check in Oregon most are done in minutes..

This doesn't completely close this one, but it helps.

I really hate that name (it has absolutely nothing to do with gun shows), but this doesn't do anything about sales by people who aren't licensed dealers; the "loophole" is that if I'm selling my shotgun at a yard sale (or a classified ad, or the Internet, or at a gun show) I'm not allowed (let alone required) to use the Federal background check system.

sheriffs refusing to do background checks no funding...so gun dealers shop owners will sell guns anyway without the background checks

thanks

Until they get caught anyway...That doesn't represent the whole state. And I bet that would be true in almost any state that has passed new gun control laws. It's going to take a long time of dragging people kicking and screaming into the future to see changes implemented. That doesn't mean it won't happen eventually.

We have a new Governor now on our side and I'm so glad. Oregon has a lot of conservative gun thumpers. It won't be an easy state to evolve. But Oregon also has a lot of liberals and we won't stop fighting for change.

That's always a dangerous road to go down.

they don't have to help federal agents enforce federal laws, nor do they have to provide county assest, like jail cells, manpower, etc, what they can't do is actively interfere with the agents.

I know the DEA is still trying to eradicate pot grows in Oregon, in spite of it being legalized here...but what are you saying about Sheriffs? If they are not working with the DEA, I think that's a good thing. We want legalized pot here.

But...this is a thread about guns, not pot.

You do realize that Sheriff's are elected by the people of their county, Sheriff's have wide latitude on how they enforce the law in their counties, if they don't want to enforce those laws, they will refuse to do so and there's not a whole lot that can be done to them.

so they say they won't do it bill doesn't go far enough it should just be you must pass a background check it must go through and be approved before a sale...it still leaves it all open for the gun shop/dealer to be straw purchaser to essentially have the paperwork in and not processed is legal...this is how the Ame tragedy in s carolina happened; dylann roof did not pass a background check tho the fbi and gun shop said he did...and a family member of the ame tragedy testified about this in oregon legislature over this bill ....and STILL they left a loophole in....it's got to come from the top down...from the feds...

Because an FFL dealer has to, by federal law, perform a background check on each and every firearm purchase, no exceptions, ATF will come down hard on any dealer who fails to do so.

if you go back in their archives...there will be articles about Sheriffs stating that certain counties are refusing to do the background checks....

otherwise, they'll find themselves in a world of hurt from the ATF.

When you can just expand the waiting period and ignore all the people who fail.