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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:59 PM Mar 2016

No Breakthrough In Supreme Court Dispute Between Obama, Republicans

Source: Reuters

By Ayesha Rascoe

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama met with leaders of the Republican-led Senate on Tuesday to push for confirmation hearings and a vote on his nominee to fill the Supreme Court vacancy, but the Republicans again vowed not to act on anyone he selects.

Obama, planning to name a replacement for the late Justice Antonin Scalia in the coming weeks, met with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chuck Grassley, in the White House Oval Office for less than an hour.

The president and Republican senators are at odds over whether Obama should select during an election year a replacement for Scalia, a long-serving conservative member of the court who died on Feb. 13. The White House session yielded no breakthrough on how to handle the vacancy.

"We killed a lot of time talking about basketball and other stuff," said Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, who also attended the White House meeting, along with the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy.

Read more: http://www.streetinsider.com/Reuters/No+breakthrough+in+Supreme+Court+dispute+between+Obama,+Republicans/11373607.html



Obama Would Consider GOP Suggestions for Court, Reid Says

March 1, 2016 — 12:52 PM EST
Updated on March 1, 2016 — 1:22 PM EST '

President Barack Obama told Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell that he’d "seriously consider" anyone Republicans suggested to replace Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, said Harry Reid, the Senate Democratic leader, after a White House meeting on Tuesday.

McConnell, of Kentucky, and the Senate Judiciary chairman, Republican Chuck Grassley of Iowa, offered no names, Reid said. Instead, they were "adamant" that they wouldn’t consider any Obama nominee, he said.

"Never in the history of the country has anything like this happened, where they won’t meet with the person, they simply won’t hold hearings," Reid said to reporters after the Oval Office meeting.

"They’re going to wait and see what President Trump will do, I guess, as far as a nomination," Reid added, referring to the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, Donald Trump.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-01/obama-would-consider-republican-suggestions-for-court-reid-says
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No Breakthrough In Supreme Court Dispute Between Obama, Republicans (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2016 OP
Obama Would Consider GOP Suggestions for Court, Reid Says SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #1
hasn't he learned yet that "compromise" to pugs rurallib Mar 2016 #4
You mean dispute between republicans and the constitution. Iggo Mar 2016 #2
Dispute? Liberty Sage Mar 2016 #7
I'd like to see a constitutional law expert weigh in on this question. potone Mar 2016 #9
It does but elleng Mar 2016 #16
But there is a requirement to have a functioning supreme court, tabasco Mar 2016 #21
But there is a functioning supreme court. Angleae Mar 2016 #23
Actually, there are eight sitting justices. tabasco Mar 2016 #28
Really. There is a constitutional requirement to have a supreme court. tabasco Mar 2016 #20
We have a functioning SC. former9thward Mar 2016 #24
Who decides what is a reasonable time? GGJohn Mar 2016 #30
GOP Liars all of them houston16revival Mar 2016 #3
Who needs a 9th justice? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #5
Except the ones we don't. former9thward Mar 2016 #25
I wish he'd simply nominate whoever he thinks is the best choice, SheilaT Mar 2016 #6
Bad idea Liberty Sage Mar 2016 #8
Agree, he has to be subtle, and the timing must be very good houston16revival Mar 2016 #10
Right now it appears that he's simply SheilaT Mar 2016 #12
I think you are missing the strategy Egnever Mar 2016 #13
I hope you're right. SheilaT Mar 2016 #18
You know what..............................fine.................. turbinetree Mar 2016 #11
The Republicons are banking on this issue... PoiBoy Mar 2016 #14
The "House of Cards" watcher in me wonders... MrBig Mar 2016 #15
Obama should put up the most liberal candidate possible ... ananda Mar 2016 #17
Put forward an impeccably qualified, center-left, minority candidate of unquestioned character. maxsolomon Mar 2016 #19
A lawsuit for what? NT. Doctor Who Mar 2016 #22
I dunno, they can think of something maxsolomon Mar 2016 #31
A lawsuit for what exactly? eom. GGJohn Mar 2016 #26
why, violatin' the constytooshin of course! maxsolomon Mar 2016 #32
Naw, GGJohn Mar 2016 #33
If Trump were president, there's only one person who is great enough to be on the SCOTUS -- LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #27
Perhaps judge Andrew Napolitano could be a compromise Reter Mar 2016 #29

Liberty Sage

(14 posts)
7. Dispute?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

It is within their Constitutional authority to hold hearings or not. Don't worry, unless you think Republicans are going to win the general election.

potone

(1,701 posts)
9. I'd like to see a constitutional law expert weigh in on this question.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

It seems to me that they don't have to confirm, but to say that they won't hold hearings seems to me to violate their duty to give advice and consent to judicial nominees.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
21. But there is a requirement to have a functioning supreme court,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

so I believe scholars would read a "reasonable" time into the constitution.

If the senate refuses to do their duty to advise/consent, there is no functioning supreme court.

Angleae

(4,484 posts)
23. But there is a functioning supreme court.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

One with six sitting judges. So long as there is one judge on that court, it exists.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
28. Actually, there are eight sitting justices.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

The point is, the Senate has a duty to advise and consent in a reasonable time.

Do you really believe the founders would be okay if the court had just one judge? One person with veto power over every law passed by Congress? That is ludicrous and ridiculous, and so is the position that the senate has no duty to advise/consent to the president's nominations in a reasonable amount of time, not delayed for political reasons.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
20. Really. There is a constitutional requirement to have a supreme court.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

The senate absolutely has a duty to "advise/consent" OR THERE WOULDN'T BE A SUPREME COURT.

Hope it helps.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
24. We have a functioning SC.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

It is meeting now and hearing cases. There have been many times in SC history where the court operated short handed.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
30. Who decides what is a reasonable time?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

Certainly not the Constitution, the framers didn't include a timeline, not the President, again, the framers didn't give him that power, so who gets to decide what's a reasonable time?

Answer, it would be the party in charge of the Senate, which, at this moment in time, would be the republicans.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
3. GOP Liars all of them
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:07 PM
Mar 2016

As Senators they took an oath on the Bible - which they revere so much -
to faithfully execute their duties in office

Now they're hiding from the consequences of their actions

This stonewalling is a way of voting NO without voting at all

Cowards, liars, perjurers

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. I wish he'd simply nominate whoever he thinks is the best choice,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

and then go around the country making speeches about their obstructionism.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
10. Agree, he has to be subtle, and the timing must be very good
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

ours is a whisper campaign about obstructionism

the media won't play ball with the issue

So it's word of mouth

Everyone knows it's true, they just need a reminder

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. Right now it appears that he's simply
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:01 PM
Mar 2016

rolling over and playing dead. He needs to behave like a President. Let the Republicans suggest who he should nominate? No. Not nominate anyone at all? No, no, no.

He needs to make sure that people in this country understand to what extent the Republicans are being totally obstructionist, are refusing to do what they were elected to do, and that there is simply no precedent for a sitting President not to nominate a SC replacement, or for the Senate not to consider that nomination.

One of the things that has disappointed me the most about Obama is that he doesn't seem to understand that playing nice with those guys gets him nowhere.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
13. I think you are missing the strategy
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

as long as there is no nominee, only the suggestion of one there can be no real objections to that nominee. He can attack the republicans all day long saying they refuse to consider a nominee because obstruction. The second he actually puts someone forward the republicans can claim some actual reason for opposing the nominee, supports abortion or other hot topic for republicans.

The longer it remains generic the longer they can clobber them with pure obstruction.

I am sure the is looking for the nominee that will be hardest to claim a legitimate refusal to consider but that is not an easy task.


The meeting today was simply to put it back out there that republicans refuse to cooperate for no legitimate reason.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
11. You know what..............................fine..................
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

I will put my name into the nomination process------------------------who cares what these jerks think.

And this is just classic.................

"We killed a lot of time talking about basketball and other stuff," said Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, who also attended the White House meeting, along with the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy.

They (right wing republicans ) don't want to lose there propaganda machine called the U.S. Supreme Court which started under Rehnquist and now the Roberts court for the last 35 years and look at what this country has gotten...................for example----------------- District of Columbia vs Heller, and attacking workers/unionization efforts, voting (dismantling), attacking the EPA, just for starters

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/

I and millions of others want a "LIBERAL" / "PROGRESSIVE" justice on this court for the next thirty five years, were really tired of capitulation


Honk---------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

PoiBoy

(1,542 posts)
14. The Republicons are banking on this issue...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:16 PM
Mar 2016

...to create a huge turnout on election day in their favor...

The Reds believe that God + Guns + Gays + whomever is the Dem nominee = huge turnout.

The hatred on their side is palatable... and they (TPTB) intend to take full advantage of it.

Using their propaganda megaphone squawking relentlessly they are already letting it be known that a "conservative" SCOTUS will save the babies, save the guns, and strip every alternative lifestyle and religion of their rights...

IMO, they see a Republicon victory on election day as a way to solidify the power of their failed ideology over all of us...

MrBig

(640 posts)
15. The "House of Cards" watcher in me wonders...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:17 PM
Mar 2016

Did they even talk about the Supreme Court? Or was it about how they would handle the Trump in the room...

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. Put forward an impeccably qualified, center-left, minority candidate of unquestioned character.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

And file a lawsuit in Federal Court the next day.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
31. I dunno, they can think of something
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

Like "the Senate refuses to follow the Constitution"?

You can sue the Executive Branch, why not the Legislative? Or each individual Senator?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
32. why, violatin' the constytooshin of course!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

otherwise Obama's just asking the press to make the Senate FEEL BAD for not doing their jerbs.

side note: I think this is your first-ever non-RKBA post! congrats!

27. If Trump were president, there's only one person who is great enough to be on the SCOTUS --
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:36 PM
Mar 2016

Donald Trump.

There's nothing in the Constitution that says the president can't serve on the Supreme Court at the same time, is there? That way we'd get the greatest president and the greatest Supreme Court we've ever had.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
29. Perhaps judge Andrew Napolitano could be a compromise
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

He's 65, so we won't have him forever. He's also libertarian, so of neither Party.

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