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Stuart G

(38,445 posts) Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:31 PM Mar 2016

Dems say state blocked Flint return to Detroit water

Source: Detroit Free Press

LANSING -- Michigan Democrats said Wednesday that the state of Michigan blocked Flint from returning to Lake Huron water from the Detroit water system when it agreed to grant the city an emergency loan of $7 million in April 2015.

The loan, approved on April 29 of last year by the Local Emergency Financial Assistance Loan Board, and intended to erase the city's operating deficit so it could begin to emerge from state-ordered emergency management, included conditions requiring that the city not return to the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department as its source of drinking water, according to records the Michigan Democratic Party obtained under Michigan's Freedom of Information Act.

Another condition was that Flint not leave the Karegnondi Water Authority -- a new pipeline to Lake Huron backed by Genesee County that Flint opted to join early in 2013, resulting in its split with Detroit as its source of drinking water. Former Flint emergency manager Ed Kurtz opted to draw water from the Flint River as an interim drinking water source, beginning in April of 2014, after Flint and Detroit could not agree on an interim price for Flint to continue receiving Detroit water while it waited for the pipeline, slated for completion this summer, to be built.

Flint's drinking water became contaminated with lead after the switch. The city returned to Detroit water in October, with financial assistance from the administration of Republican Gov. Rick Snyder, but a threat remains because of damage to the water distribution system.

Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/03/02/dems-say-state-blocked-flint-return-detroit-water/81199076/

key sentence............included conditions requiring that the city not return to the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department as its source of drinking water, according to records the Michigan Democratic Party obtained under Michigan's Freedom of Information Act.

So, once the deal was made...the Republicans put it into the law, that they had to use that contaminated water..Why? Probably cause the deal was made, and someone got some bucks, also, it would look bad, if the Flint had to return to "Detroit Water"..and that the city manager, a Snyder appointee, made a "mistake"..

So a bunch of people need to testify..how about the city manager who made the deal???? and..........
Snyder needs to testify also, then after that, resign and go on trial..If he testifies while governor, then when he lies, as governor, it will be a major felony...Fuck Him and his killers.!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dems say state blocked Flint return to Detroit water (Original Post) Stuart G Mar 2016 OP

Who made the deal? Snyder's installed emergency manager? Or any real people from Flint? nt valerief Mar 2016 #1

I do not know for sure, but the manager made the deal.. Stuart G Mar 2016 #2

So it was Snyder's emergency city manager, not elected by anyone in Flint, who made the decision. valerief Mar 2016 #3

It seems clear that the city officials had to accept the deal made by the city manager and ,, Stuart G Mar 2016 #4

Right. So much for democracy. nt valerief Mar 2016 #5

Thank you. The State assumed responsibility. Now they don't want it. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #7

Here is one of the most amazing stories of all..State workers in a state building got bottled water Stuart G Mar 2016 #6

Is not this clearly criminal now? Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #8

valerief

(53,235 posts)

1. Who made the deal? Snyder's installed emergency manager? Or any real people from Flint? nt

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:33 PM

Mar 2016

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)

2. I do not know for sure, but the manager made the deal..

Reply to valerief (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:36 PM

Mar 2016

and it looks like the city was made to accept the deal on the bases of the loan described in the article. The money came from..."Local Emergency Financial Assistance Loan Board" I suppose that is a state sponsored agency that lends money

The city couldn't do otherwise because it needed the loan to get out of bankruptcy.. It seems like the loan required Flint to stay with the dirty water. So the loan came from the state and approved by city manager, and city government

valerief

(53,235 posts)

3. So it was Snyder's emergency city manager, not elected by anyone in Flint, who made the decision.

Reply to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:38 PM

Mar 2016

So Snyder made the decision, not Flint.

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)

4. It seems clear that the city officials had to accept the deal made by the city manager and ,,

Reply to valerief (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:40 PM

Mar 2016

the loan board.. There was no choice..take the deal, with the stipulations of using the dirty water, or, don't get the money the city needed to survive. That is what it looks like to me.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

5. Right. So much for democracy. nt

Reply to Stuart G (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:41 PM

Mar 2016

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)

7. Thank you. The State assumed responsibility. Now they don't want it. nt

Reply to valerief (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:39 PM

Mar 2016

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)

6. Here is one of the most amazing stories of all..State workers in a state building got bottled water

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:45 PM

Mar 2016

long before anyone else..(from the Detroit Free Press January 29, 2016) this one has already been posted. bit a repost here would add information to this story in my opinion..

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/01/28/amid-denials-state-workers-flint-got-clean-water/79470650/
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LANSING In January of 2015, when state officials were telling worried Flint residents their water was safe to drink, they also were arranging for coolers of purified water in Flint's State Office Building so employees wouldn't have to drink from the taps, according to state government e-mails released Thursday by the liberal group Progress Michigan.

A Jan. 7, 2015, notice from the state Department of Technology, Management and Budget, which oversees state office buildings, references a notice about a violation of drinking water standards that had recently been sent out by the City of Flint.

"While the City of Flint states that corrective actions are not necessary, DTMB is in the process of providing a water cooler on each occupied floor, positioned near the water fountain, so you can choose which water to drink," said the notice.

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So, state workers were drinking clean water from coolers, 10 months before the emergency was declared in October 2015...ten months before citizens of Flint were informed of the nature of the water they were drinking, ..state workers were getting bottled water in their building

so now you see why Snyder needs to go to jail, but testify about this first..then when he lies, they can get him on lying while testifying..and the city manager and the rest of the crooks too...

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

8. Is not this clearly criminal now?

Reply to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:05 PM

Mar 2016

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