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erpowers

(9,350 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:35 PM Mar 2016

Wounded Warrior Project execs fired

Source: CBS News

In an update to a CBS News investigation of the country's largest veterans charity, Wounded Warrior Project, the board has fired the Chief Executive Officer and the Chief Operating Officer.

The CBS News investigation raised questions about how the charity spends the millions of dollars it receives in donations each year.

Wounded Warrior Project's CEO, Steven Nardizzi, and COO, Al Giordano, were fired after criticisms from more than 40 employees about how it spends its more than $800 million raised in donations in the past four years.

The allegations include lavish spending by the charity at staff retreats, and other costs, at the expense of programs for veterans.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wounded-warrior-project-ceo-and-coo-fired/

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Wounded Warrior Project execs fired (Original Post) erpowers Mar 2016 OP
Who gets to fire the board? Its members were either incompetent or complicit, no? merrily Mar 2016 #1
I Guess So erpowers Mar 2016 #10
Since it's supposedly a charity, the state AG might do the firing. merrily Mar 2016 #11
Non-profit boards are notoriously incompetent noiretextatique Mar 2016 #26
I want to see their names and resumes or wikis before I conclude they were not also crooked. merrily Mar 2016 #28
Not necessarily crooked, but they don't hear from noiretextatique Mar 2016 #29
Some of these guys definitely should have known better. merrily Mar 2016 #36
Be careful who you donate $ to modrepub Mar 2016 #2
Jail time for anyone. No they're in the protected class.. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #3
I've always thought this "charity" had a bad smell to it. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #4
Me too hibbing Mar 2016 #5
In defense of wounded warrior... AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #7
yeah, my brother works with them in cali. mopinko Mar 2016 #24
Did Not See It, But Should Have erpowers Mar 2016 #12
Wonder how much they paid Bruce Willis to be in their commercial? trof Mar 2016 #14
Everything is a racket. valerief Mar 2016 #6
Would be interesting to see how much they got packman Mar 2016 #8
Just like FEDEX is not federal... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #9
Sad Story erpowers Mar 2016 #13
I know this to be true noiretextatique Mar 2016 #27
Isn't Ben Affleck the Face of this outfit? zentrum Mar 2016 #15
No, that's Paralyzed Veterans of America. Chan790 Mar 2016 #21
Thanks so much Chan. zentrum Mar 2016 #22
Precisely. chapdrum Mar 2016 #34
Could it be zentrum Mar 2016 #35
I am curious about how much Trump gave them as he promised to world wide wally Mar 2016 #16
and if WW kicked back a finder's fee. /nt NCjack Mar 2016 #18
What a surprise. chapdrum Mar 2016 #17
Bill O'Lyly promotes this organization. Duckfan Mar 2016 #19
He's probably denying he has ever heard of it. -none Mar 2016 #31
The board is a bunch of corrupt bums too! tabasco Mar 2016 #20
My Marine Corps League Detachment............ mrmpa Mar 2016 #23
Numerous "Charities" claiming to be helping wounded veterans... Nitram Mar 2016 #25
Old Fogies DustyJoe Mar 2016 #30
You're right, Dusty. Nitram Mar 2016 #32
through the rockets' red glare chapdrum Mar 2016 #33

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
10. I Guess So
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

I guess you are right about the board. They should have known what was going on with the money. Why did it take a new report that exposed the misuse of money. Either they knew what was going on and let it happen, or they were not doing their job. Either way it seems that a number of board members should also be fired.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Since it's supposedly a charity, the state AG might do the firing.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

I would, if I were the state AG.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
26. Non-profit boards are notoriously incompetent
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

In that they tend to back "their" picks in management no matter what because they usually only hear from management. They rarely deign to talk to employees who know what is really happening.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. I want to see their names and resumes or wikis before I conclude they were not also crooked.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

IMO, asking operating officers "How much money did you take in and how did you spend it" is not too much to expect any board member to do.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
29. Not necessarily crooked, but they don't hear from
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

Anyone except management. It is really easy to mislead if the crooks are the only ones at board meetings. It took five employee lawsuits at my last job before the board fired the CEO.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Some of these guys definitely should have known better.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/mission/board-of-directors.aspx


I really suck at being a hard ass, but here's my view. Charities are collecting money from the public, often by manipulating emotions. Sometimes good people donate money they can't really spare easily. They do without so they can donate for cancer or wounded warriors or orphans in South America or water in Africa or whatever. That should occur to someone who sits on the board of a charity collecting money from the public. It's not information that outside the education or experience of any human. Most of us have probably donated more than we could easily afford to some organization or another.

Knowing that, someone who is really clueless and/or not willing to do much of anything to protect the public should maybe think twice before accepting a position on the board of a public charity. And, as my prior post said, asking the President and chief financial officer(s) "How much did you take in and what did you spend it on?" is not rocket science. Anyone who runs a home works with those concepts.

The directors of Wounded Warriosr knew Wounded Warriors was advertising a lot on TV for donations from the public because I know that much. Everybody knows TV ads cost, so they had to have known big bucks were involved.


modrepub

(3,496 posts)
2. Be careful who you donate $ to
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

Got stuff from these people all the time and figured this could be one of those outfits who have admin costs over 10%+ Try to give local and try to give to people who don't attract crowds of donors.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
4. I've always thought this "charity" had a bad smell to it.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:48 PM
Mar 2016

Guess my nose was right. And WHY DO these sorta organizations exist anyways??? Shouldn't the VA address any and all needs of our veterans? Obviously, when you have a tear-jerker of a "cause", you have a tool to take advantage of the gullible.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. In defense of wounded warrior...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:57 PM
Mar 2016

When I was camping in the grand canyon last year, we were coming down the bright angel trail past indian gardens, and encountered a WW team carrying a vet through the trail, and they had come all the way down from the north side of the canyon. Apparently they trade off to a fresh team at indian gardens.

So, they do some cool stuff that I haven't seen anyone else do.


That said, their opex efficiency is horrible. Their total revenue for FY14 was $342,066,114. Only 59.9% was spent on the people they help, and the programs they run.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
24. yeah, my brother works with them in cali.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

he is a wilderness guide, and a nam era air force vet.
but like so many orgs, the top guys suck up the money, and the little guys give till it hurts.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
12. Did Not See It, But Should Have
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

I probably should have seen this coming. They had a number of major Hollywood stars doing ads for them. Maybe the stars did those ads for free, but it is possible Wounded Warrior Project had to pay large amounts of money to those stars.

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
9. Just like FEDEX is not federal...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

Many non profits are very profitable to the big shots. "Goodwill"... will hire your handicapped child, neighbor and friends for slave wages... and it's legal. > [Goodwill Pays Disabled Workers As Little As 22 Cents Per Hour] > http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/24/2201101/goodwill-pays-cents-per-hour/

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
13. Sad Story
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

The story you linked to is sad. The loophole needs to be closed. It is just wrong to pay someone 55 cents an hour because they are disabled. Yes, for that wage they might as well be unemployed.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
27. I know this to be true
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

Having worked in non-profits for many years. Line staff gets paid shit, while management overindulges themselves and their pals.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. Isn't Ben Affleck the Face of this outfit?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

It's beyond outrageous that we need "charity" organizations to help Vets. It should be covered by the government, funded at the levels it needs to do the job right (by raising taxes on the Imperialist Class that sends us to war) and with oversight that isn't controlled by lobbyists.


 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
21. No, that's Paralyzed Veterans of America.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016

They're not that great either...they're actually highly-transparent and they don't have terrible overhead, but they do spent the vast majority of their income (more than 2/3) on soliciting for more donations. That's problematic.

PVA's Charity Navigator page: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4295

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
34. Precisely.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

V.A. doesn't have enough money. Do any of these agencies ever have enough money?
If not, why not?

Could it be the estimated $1,200,000,000 untaxed U.S. corporate income, parked offshore?

Nah.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
35. Could it be
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

…..sending them all off to war and at the same time lowering taxes on the rich? So Halliburton could offshore billions? Sure is a puzzler.

(I read somewhere it was 3Trillion hidden, but the rip-off is so complete, it's hard to keep straight.)

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
17. What a surprise.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

Not.

Instead of finding the money to treat veterans according to their sacrifice, this is yet another function of government
that gets outsourced - with predictable results.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
23. My Marine Corps League Detachment............
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:29 AM
Mar 2016

over a year ago refused to donate to Wounded Warriors due to what we were hearing about the organization. We send our money elsewhere.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
25. Numerous "Charities" claiming to be helping wounded veterans...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

...are scams pure and simple. Older Americans tend to be the main target.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
30. Old Fogies
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

Maybe one reason outfits like this may not make inroads with some older Americans is because a lot of 60+ are Vietnam era vets, their relatives or friends, and can smell a scam. I can buy a lot of t-shirts and blankets for less than $19 a month if I wish. Just the name confuses me. Being injured in 1968 I cannot wrap myself around this 'warrior' meme they tout. Makes it sound like some mercenary band-of-brothers thing. I must be getting too old and cynical.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
32. You're right, Dusty.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

My Dad, a World War II vet is 93, and we just discovered that he had been donating to every solicitation related to the issue of wounded vets that comes to his door. It was then that I discovered how many scams are out there. The Vietnam War generation, hopefully, is wise to scams, having been victims of the Great Vietnam War Scam. I agree about the "warrior" meme. Sounds like just another scam to me.

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