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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:40 AM Jun 2012

EXCLUSIVE: GOP Election Supervisor Rebukes Gov. Scott, Refuses To Continue Voter Purge

Source: Think Progress

EXCLUSIVE: GOP Election Supervisor Rebukes Gov. Scott, Refuses To Continue Voter Purge
By Josh Israel on Jun 7, 2012 at 11:14 am


Though Gov. Rick Scott (R-FL)’s administration has now said it will not follow the Department of Justice’s order to end its voter roll purge, a Republican county elections supervisor’s spokeswoman told ThinkProgress she will not resume the purge effort.

Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections Deborah Clark (R) released a statement Friday saying that her office would not continue the purge:


"The accuracy of the voter registration database is of the utmost importance and we will continue our efforts to ensure the information is current. However, we will not use unreliable data."



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Whitlock noted that Clark and other Florida elections supervisors had questioned“not only the accuracy of the information, but also the timing after learning that the state had the list of voters more than a year prior to distributing it.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/07/496077/exclusive-gop-election-supervisor-rebukes-gov-scott-refuses-to-continue-voter-purge/

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EXCLUSIVE: GOP Election Supervisor Rebukes Gov. Scott, Refuses To Continue Voter Purge (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
This whole thing is just blowing up in Scotts face, that makes me smile. Mr.Turnip Jun 2012 #1
Will Justice do more than say "no". Will they take Scott to court? lark Jun 2012 #15
Same conclusion yesterday, elleng Jun 2012 #2
In other words, they are defying the order by DoJ, just claiming they are not using a certain list L. Coyote Jun 2012 #31
No, they are defying 'order' of governor and Florida Secretary of State, elleng Jun 2012 #38
If they are still purging voters, they are in violation. Too close to the election. L. Coyote Jun 2012 #40
As a Floridian ... Akoto Jun 2012 #3
Supervisors of Elections Ineeda Jun 2012 #11
Scott Has Already Done That DallasNE Jun 2012 #13
It was the previous SoS, Kurt Browning, who developed the list. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #20
Kurt Browning did develop the list ornotna Jun 2012 #24
pRick Scott needs to get a visit from some hifiguy Jun 2012 #4
Pushed tp purge tomkoop Jun 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #23
How can he.. Catch_22 Jun 2012 #6
Because state governments do not work for the federal government. The enforcement 24601 Jun 2012 #25
There are no voter purges or election fraud. Nothing to see here. Move along. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #7
How many welfare druggies did Scott catch? HockeyMom Jun 2012 #8
Can DoJ send in the U.S. Marshals to rough up Prick Snott just a little bit? Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #9
It is nice to see some Republicans actually standing up for Democracy. Now what should happen lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #10
WOW, you didn't read the OP. They are still doing it, despite the order to stop! L. Coyote Jun 2012 #30
The article I read said they had stopped. I thought the OP was talking about that article lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #32
True, even the OP headline is FALSE given the quote in the OP. L. Coyote Jun 2012 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #12
Scott is hot air and bluster like lil Kim of N Korea. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #14
I wonder what the federal government's recourse is when a governor defies a federal court order. drm604 Jun 2012 #16
yes sweetapogee Jun 2012 #18
Look deeper into the background of voting rights violations in Florida. Feds intervened long ago, L. Coyote Jun 2012 #35
It isn't a court order. It's an order from the Justice Department. totodeinhere Jun 2012 #19
So far its just bluster. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #21
It looks like there is at least one honest Republican in Florida. totodeinhere Jun 2012 #17
Actually, there are a few. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #22
You have just been hoodwinked by a Republican with the greatest of ease L. Coyote Jun 2012 #29
If so, then I guess there are no honest Republicans down there after all. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2012 #41
You getting hoodwinked and honest Republicans are not mutually excluding in one direction, but L. Coyote Jun 2012 #42
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #26
Leroy and Bubba sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #27
Don't be fooled. They are going forward even though it is against the law this close to an election L. Coyote Jun 2012 #28
Stay out of small planes, Deborah. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #33
Interesting the spin that goes on here at DU. Kinda strange L. Coyote Jun 2012 #36
Oh, come on. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #37
How can you agree with what she is doing when it is the opposite of the DoJ order? L. Coyote Jun 2012 #39
You are very misinformed. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #43
I actually read the quote, which says: L. Coyote Jun 2012 #44
Translation: Scotts data is a pile of steaming shit, HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #45

lark

(23,105 posts)
15. Will Justice do more than say "no". Will they take Scott to court?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jun 2012

He needs to be indicted! Get rid of the fucking serial criminal!

God, how I hate that man!!!!

elleng

(130,974 posts)
2. Same conclusion yesterday,
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jun 2012

on Rachel show, from another (Seminole?) County Election Supervisor. She said all 6? Supervisors had met, and agreed not to implement scotts purge but rather do their jobs properly.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
31. In other words, they are defying the order by DoJ, just claiming they are not using a certain list
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:37 PM
Jun 2012

Sounds like an illegal move anyway.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
38. No, they are defying 'order' of governor and Florida Secretary of State,
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:20 PM
Jun 2012

saying they will do their job properly, which does NOT include removing thousands from roles.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
40. If they are still purging voters, they are in violation. Too close to the election.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jun 2012

But, apparently, that is not stopping them. It is pointless to say, We are using a different list" if they are still doing it! You have to stop the purge a certain number of days bfore the voting, and they are in violation of that deadline now!!!

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
3. As a Floridian ...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jun 2012

It is so good to see this guy finally not getting his crooked way. His agenda has done so much against ordinary people, especially the poor, and he is flagrant about the fact that he just doesn't care. I had a feeling that'd be the case during the election, though, just from that creepy look he always has in his eyes.

My worry is, can he just fire and replace the people refusing to cooperate? I grant that few would line up for the jobs with the DOJ watching like a hawk, but ...

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
11. Supervisors of Elections
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jun 2012

in Florida are elected not appointed, so no, he can't fire and replace them.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
13. Scott Has Already Done That
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jun 2012

When Scott sent his list and demands to the Secretary of State in Florida he refused the demands and resigned instead. Scott then found his own "Robert Bork" and named him Secretary of State. It is this puppet that the Departement of Justice is having to deal with.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. It was the previous SoS, Kurt Browning, who developed the list.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jun 2012

And though I dont know why he resigned before implementing it, I doubt it was due to a pang of conscience since his previous job was as a lobbyist for Koch Industries front group.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. pRick Scott needs to get a visit from some
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012

US Marshals. That twerp needs a little "talking to" from some actual federal law enforcement officials.

 

tomkoop

(55 posts)
5. Pushed tp purge
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jun 2012

The elections supervisors will pushed to purge. If they do not follow along with the Republipig law of dishonesty, and total greed they will be put out on their asses. Republipigs are to let the poor starve, not raise taxes on the rich/wealthy, and they are by no means to give in to a black man giving orders!!

Seig Heil Mein Repiglican Party!!

They are some folks who need f'n help.

Response to tomkoop (Reply #5)

Catch_22

(12 posts)
6. How can he..
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jun 2012

How can Rick Scott defy the Justice Department without any repercussions in the first place? Regardless, I'm glad the purging has halted.

24601

(3,962 posts)
25. Because state governments do not work for the federal government. The enforcement
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

mechanism is if DOJ can convince a court to order it. Until the courts break the tie, it's just two different government officials with their own opinions of what the law allows and requires.

It's the same concept when a President and Congress disagree on the meaning of a law or Constitutional provision. Each view has equal weight until the courts decide.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
8. How many welfare druggies did Scott catch?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

Less than 1%. How much money did this costs Florida citizens? This non-citizen voter purge sounds exactly the same.

I live in Collier (population 21,000). 27 people here got these letters as reported by local news. 24 have proved citizenship. The other 3 have not answered. Given the median age of this place (65), maybe they too are 91 year olds who just decided not to bother with it.

More from the Fraud Governor.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
9. Can DoJ send in the U.S. Marshals to rough up Prick Snott just a little bit?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jun 2012

Please? Pretty Please?

He needs to be arrested for defying orders of the US Government and blatant violations of HAVA/VRA.


 

lookingfortruth

(263 posts)
10. It is nice to see some Republicans actually standing up for Democracy. Now what should happen
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jun 2012

-at least if I was register to vote in Florida- I'd would start a lawsuit against Gov Scott and Florida for trying to imped my right to vote.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. True, even the OP headline is FALSE given the quote in the OP.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jun 2012

"we will continue our efforts to ensure the information is current" means they are purging voters. Just saying we are not using some list is not a justification for the OP headline of the misplaced jubilation in this thread.

You'd think the wolves had actually turned into sheep, but no, this is not a fairy tale, this is politics in the USA!!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. Scott is hot air and bluster like lil Kim of N Korea.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012

This is just red meat thrown to his teabagging base. Scott cant do shit if the County Elections Supervisors refuse to cooperate... and so far that is the case.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
16. I wonder what the federal government's recourse is when a governor defies a federal court order.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jun 2012

Would it be like Little Rock? Will they send in the federal troops or nationalize the Florida National Guard to physically force compliance? Can a governor be prosecuted for defying a federal court order?

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
18. yes
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

a court can seek remedy if a governor defies a court order however you are confusing an "order" from the DOJ with an actual court order.

In this case the DOJ would have to file a petition with a federal court. The fed's could hold up funding though if they want to make a political statement. It might be appealing to us right now but it could also set a precident that could bite us in the * someday. Just saying. You do have to admire the pukes resolve. Wish we had some of that.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
35. Look deeper into the background of voting rights violations in Florida. Feds intervened long ago,
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jun 2012

and there is background that is relevant.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
19. It isn't a court order. It's an order from the Justice Department.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jun 2012

I suspect that the first course of action would be for the Justice Department to seek a court order. But as slowly as the court system can move sometimes that could possibly be tied up for some time.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
21. So far its just bluster.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jun 2012

DOJ cant do anything about Scotts chest beating. Until he ACTS, its all just hot air. And the County Elections Supervisors (mostly republicans) are refusing to carry out Scotts purge. So Scott will continue to rant and throw his temper-tantrum... and the DOJ will monitor the situation.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
22. Actually, there are a few.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jun 2012

But they are stripped of committee assignments, their bills are kept in limbo in subcommittees, and they are pretty much treated like the Democrats by the bat-shit crazy corrupt Rethugs running the show.
Specifically, there was a couple republicans speaking out against the Polytech U boondoggle (notably Paula Dockery from that district), and Mike Fasano has been trying to undo legislation that permitted Florida Power to collect in advance construction fees for a nuclear plant they arent going to build. And Nancy D'Argano was outspoken on consumer and Public Service Commission issues, but she recently switched to Independant (she missed deadline to file as Dem).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. You have just been hoodwinked by a Republican with the greatest of ease
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jun 2012

Hello, they are doing it anyway, just claiming they are avoiding "unreliable data" rather than stopping as instructed by the DoJ.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
42. You getting hoodwinked and honest Republicans are not mutually excluding in one direction, but
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jun 2012

if there were no honest Republicans, you wouldn't be hoodwinked

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
28. Don't be fooled. They are going forward even though it is against the law this close to an election
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jun 2012

They are just saying they won't use "unreliable data" and not stopping the process.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
36. Interesting the spin that goes on here at DU. Kinda strange
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jun 2012

that you would imply a R who purges voters needs to be careful about assassination. Is that you threatening her, or what?

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
37. Oh, come on.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jun 2012

It's a comment on how people who cross the Republican-Powers-That-Be have a way of winding up dead. The verb is "to be Wellstoned."

Why would I threaten her? I agree with what she's doing.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
39. How can you agree with what she is doing when it is the opposite of the DoJ order?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jun 2012

There is a restriction on altering voter rolls this close to an election. The Rs are violating that and even purging legitimate voters. Why do you support that?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
43. You are very misinformed.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jun 2012

The elections supervisors control the voter rolls in their counties. They have agreed the list is inaccurate, illegal, and that changing the rolls is illegally too close to the primary. They are in agreement with the DOJ. They are defying Scott.
Scott does not control the voter rolls. He can huff and puff all he wants, no one is being purged unless the elections supervisors cooperate. They are not.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
44. I actually read the quote, which says:
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jun 2012
"The accuracy of the voter registration database is of the utmost importance and we will continue our efforts to ensure the information is current. However, we will not use unreliable data." (bold mine)
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
45. Translation: Scotts data is a pile of steaming shit,
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jun 2012

and we.arent going to use it. If accurate data is forthcoming, we will act on it according to law.
And the law is that no action regarding voter rolls can take place less than 90 days before an election. Scott can bluster all he wants, but he is impotent.

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