FBI Agrees to Unlock iPhone of Arkansas Teens in Murder Case
Source: Associated Press
The FBI has agreed to help an Arkansas prosecutor unlock an iPhone and iPod belonging to two teenagers accused of killing a couple.
Faulkner County Prosecuting Attorney Cody Hiland said Wednesday that the FBI agreed to the request from his office. The trial for 18-year-old Hunter Drexler was delayed Tuesday so prosecutors could ask for help.
Drexler is accused in the shooting deaths of Robert and Patricia Cogdell.
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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-agrees-unlock-iphone-arkansas-teens-murder-case-38041135
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. Mar 30, 2016, 6:08 PM ET
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)William Seger
(10,779 posts)The FBI wanted Apple to crack Farook's phone; Apple refused; now the FBI has a way to crack ANY 5c iPhone.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)But now that the FBI found a solution themselves, it provides them a "master key". Besides this article, Cook was more specific in an interview I saw. He expressed concern that if the Feds had that master key they would, despite promising to not to unlock any but the San Bernardino phone, use it on other iPhones. Beyond that, his largest concern was that any master key solution would not remain a secret and eventually be leaked compromising everyone's iPhone security.
William Seger
(10,779 posts)... and the warrant didn't depend on any "promise" to not unlock any other phone: It specifically said the hack would be coded to only run on Farook's phone. Cook's refusal actually brought about the situation he said he wanted to avoid: now the FBI can crack ANY 5C.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)Any info found can not be use in court because the phones owner had a reasonable expatiation that their info on their phone was secure and using that info would require the owner to in effect testify against themselves which is a 5th amendment violation.
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)we know what you meant but it's still a chuckle
awake
(3,226 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Shouldn't hide behind locked phones?
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)The criminals are to blame. They shouldn't hide behind technicalities.
Throd
(7,208 posts)TipTok
(2,474 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)It would send a message
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)The message you are trying to send is "ignore the laws and do what we say because we're despicable criminals"
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Were I the AG, I'd have considered bringing Cook before a federal grand jury for obstruction of justice if I could make the case that Apple knew how to decrypt the phone.
Sorry - I have no sympathy for Apple and their so-called claims of privacy concerns and 100% sympathy for the FBI in this instance.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)You just confirmed my original post that you support felonies to punish innocent people for refusing to do what you want.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)14 people were murdered by people with known associates with known bad intent. Whether the associates were ISIS, Al Qaida, The Westies, The Gambino Family, or a Mexican Drug Cartel. Apple should have unlocked the phone if they had the ability.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)As if their crime makes your crimes acceptable. Nope.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)IMO, if Tim Cook's company had the ability to decrypt the phone, and then refused to do so, he obstructed justice.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)I'm not a lawyer. But I don't think you understand the legal requirements for obstruction charges. As far as I can tell, the people whose legal opinion could result in charges think it wasn't obstruction.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)email accounts, diaries, notebooks, and tape recordings.
with an appropriate warrant, the government has as much right to hack into an iPhone as it does to break the lock on a storage unit
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)have the right to compel a company like Apple to help them do it or to provide them a method to do it.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Javaman
(62,531 posts)knowing what I know from a number of tech people that I stay in contact with, the feds knew all along how to crack the phone. it wasn't anything new, they wanted to spank down Apple for two reasons, 1) they are getting too big and too powerful (don't get me wrong, I love apple products, but I also believe that there maybe anti-trust issues with them) 2) The feds are trying to exercise their power over corporations. (I think they tried but realized they were biting off more than they could chew...at this time). 3) they publicly say, "we don't need apple, we cracked their phone, so there! Naaa! >sticks out tongue< (childish yes, but effective at showing the American public, that "we feds own you, you can't hide a damn thing from us". governmental cheerleaders love this, people who abide by the slowly decaying Constitution, hate this).
this wasn't a game of chicken a some in the press had enjoy portraying this, this was nothing more than a bait and switch to sucker punch Apple and to "hopefully" take them down a notch.
that really didn't seem to work economically-wise for apple, but the public now has the seed of doubt in their minds about their iphones (this is the fed long game) but sadly, people in general seem to miss the gigantic picture before their very eyes: the government can unlock and peek at anything you are doing...without a warrant or court order. buy hey, that's old school constitutional law, who needs that crap, right?
we are a sad people.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Tim Cook was not fighting to prevent the government any access to private data under warrant.
He was fighting against the government compelling a company to create breach it's own security.
Apple has, in the past, released private data they had access to when the government has provided a valid warrant.
If they were compelled to create back-door access for the government, that back-door, once unmasked, would allow bad actors from any nationality to break into private phones all over the world.
Hacking is so pervasive today, much of it controlled by national governments, it's naive to think that a secret back-door will always remain secret.
The current situation allows Apple find the weakness and patch it for the future.
The flaw will be available to bad actors, and the government, for only a limited time instead of being available in perpetuity.