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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:32 PM Mar 2016

FCC approves plan to expand U.S. low-income subsidy to Internet use

Source: Reuters

The Federal Communications Commission on Thursday approved a proposal to expand a telephone subsidy for low-income Americans to include Internet access, after a deal to cap the cost of the plan collapsed.

The commission voted 3-2 to approve a proposal by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, unveiled earlier this month, to expand the $9.25 monthly mobile phone subsidy to include broadband Internet access. The agency's three Democrats voted yea and its two Republicans nay.

Republicans have pushed for a budget cap for the $1.5 billion annual program, called Lifeline, which has helped lower-income Americans get access to telecommunications technologies since 1985. There is currently no cap.

FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai, a Republican, said Democratic Commissioner Mignon Clyburn had signed onto a deal with Republicans earlier in the day after intensive negotiations, only to change her decision.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fcc-subsidy-idUSKCN0WX24T

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FCC approves plan to expand U.S. low-income subsidy to Internet use (Original Post) IDemo Mar 2016 OP
This is one of those things they should save money on; focus attention elsewhere phazed0 Mar 2016 #1
I agree that tiny amount does not help poor people afford anything passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #2
CenturyLink and I'm sure many other companies offer a low cost ($9.95/mo) service IDemo Mar 2016 #4
My mother needs lifeline and her income riversedge Apr 2016 #6
It is almost impossible these days awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #3
So THIS! is that universal broadband!!! seabeckind Apr 2016 #5
You're missing the trees for the forest here Recursion Apr 2016 #8
It's called a utility. seabeckind Apr 2016 #9
This would be especially important to low-income families. jwirr Apr 2016 #7
 

phazed0

(745 posts)
1. This is one of those things they should save money on; focus attention elsewhere
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

$9.25 a month or $111/yr isn't going to do much in the way of helping.. maybe I'm wrong. My cell bill is ~$75/mo per line and my internet is around the same.

My question would be, if you're so poor you need a $9.25/mo subsidy, wtf are you paying $65/mo for a phone?

I would rather see $1.5 Billion annually go to something better like, oh I dunno, breaking up communication monopolies and curbing extreme price fixing and outrageous prices. Where most of the world pays "dirt-cheap" prices for stellar services, the US pays MORE for less... Imagine if high speed internet was $30-$50/mo or a cell phone for the same... more savings than $9.25.

And no, I could care less about hurting company business: Record profits, highest prices, worst service.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
2. I agree that tiny amount does not help poor people afford anything
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

It would be better to work on breaking up monopolies and bringing costs down for everyone.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
4. CenturyLink and I'm sure many other companies offer a low cost ($9.95/mo) service
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

for low income customers. If this additional subsidy can be applied, that would leave it at 70 cents monthly (plus a modem rental or purchase). You do have to reapply each year to qualify.

http://www.centurylink.com/home/internetbasics/?rid=internetbasics

riversedge

(70,362 posts)
6. My mother needs lifeline and her income
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

is fixed at about $11,000. Lots of elderly are in he same boat--esp. elderly woman who typically did not work full time in their early years and have very little Soc Security checks

Saving about 10.00 a month will help her a lot. I am glad to finally see this.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
3. It is almost impossible these days
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

to get a job without internet access. Everyone wants you to apply online

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
5. So THIS! is that universal broadband!!!
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:54 AM
Apr 2016

Awesome!



The ACA model applied to communications. Heaven forbid we should do anything to cut into profits.

Instead we'll give some folks a coupon (paid for by the folks who are already being gouged) so they can get to be gouged, less the 5% discount.

Thanks a lot.

How about making communications infrastructure a utility? One that includes a base level of service with add-on if you want them.

It might just cause a little INNO-FUKIN-VATION!!!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. You're missing the trees for the forest here
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

(And, yes, I reversed the cliche on purpose.)

You're so worked up over the fact that someone, somewhere, is making a profit on this, that you can't bring yourself to support a program that gives phone access (and, soon, internet access) to millions of Americans.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
9. It's called a utility.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

You've heard of those. Was quite rage before reagan privatized everything. Hel, we got electricity, phone, water, sewage.

Basically how it works is the the municipality owns the backbone. You know there are actually places in the country where cable company leases bandwidth from the people-owned infrastructure?

In fact we have a city in the US that has had an amazing boom in their economy by doing a municipal backbone. Maybe you heard of it -- Chatanooga. When the republicans introduced a bill to make it illegal for a municipality to offer such a thing, it was because of this.

Chattanooga boosts citywide broadband capacity to 10 gigabits
Ultra-high-speed broadband available to all 170,000 customers for $299 per month

The city-owned utility announced today that it is now offering 10 gigabit broadband to any of EPB's 170,000 customers. The 10 Gig service will be offered to any residential customer for $299 per month, compared with the $69.99 for EPB's current single gig service.

(snip)

Comcast's 2 Gig service, called Gigabit Pro, is being offered initially for $159 a month, or just over half the usual $299 price. Comcast's Gigabit Pro is available only to customers within one-third of a mile of Comcast's fiber network and consumers must pay hookup fees and sign a contract.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2015/oct/15/chattanooga-becomes-first-10-gigabit-city-world/330691/
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