Kasich won't say who should be punished for abortions
Source: CNN
(CNN)Ohio Gov. John Kasich wants abortion outlawed -- but he wouldn't say Sunday who should be punished for the procedure.
In the wake of Donald Trump's controversial remark that women who undergo abortions should face punishment -- which Trump quickly reversed -- Kasich wouldn't call for penalties for anyone involved in the process.
His comments came Sunday in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," where Kasich said women should not be punished for abortions.
"It's the first time I've seen the pro-life and the pro-choice people come together to say, you know, that we'll have to we'll have to basically work this out and trying to punish a woman would not be the appropriate way to behave. And I think it's going to take people working in a reasonable way working through it," Kasich said.
<more>
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/03/politics/john-kasich-abortion-punishment/index.html
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and has no punishment for those who break the law?
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Maybe abortion should be like jaywalking?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,588 posts)It's just not usually done (unless you're black -- JWWB).
Here's a video of a guy on a bicycle who was fined for not riding in the bike lane in NYC:
As the FBI agent said in "National Treasure": "Somebody's got to go to jail, Ben."
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Most republican policies, they never like to talk about the down side.
Don't want health care? Then you must not mind poor people dying unnecessarily. Pretty much Alan Grayson's position, but both Republicans and their media went apoplectic, when he actually pointed out, that, was the Republican position.
Nope, they say what they don't like, or don't want. But they never say what that causes, or results in.
It's like joblessness, high unemployment, low wages, and their relationship to increased crime.
turbinetree
(24,710 posts)Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
RATM435
(392 posts)After each childbirth. she had 5 or 6 kids and drowned them in the bathtub.
the country wanted to execute her despite the sperm donor father impregnating her.
progree
(10,910 posts)RATM435
(392 posts)progree
(10,910 posts)Lots of women have bouts of depression, post-partum and otherwise. Does that mean they should never have children? The overwhelmingly vast vast majority do not murder their children.
A man should never marry and have sex with a woman who has a history of depression? Because there is a 1 in a million chance that a depression-history woman will murder their kids? Thus making him a murderer or accessory to murder? Yes, you're right, I'm not getting it.
If it was the man who had bouts of depression and drowned the kids in the bathtub, is the mother an accessory to the murder? Because she knowingly had sex with a man with a history of depression? Does it go both ways, or just one way?
Does being a parent make one automatically responsible for the criminal acts of the other parent?
NonMetro
(631 posts)I don't know if it's true, but I've heard Planned Parenthood said the pro-lifer's denounced Trump because nobody was supposed to say that out loud, yet.
In reality, though, there already is financial punishment for women, extra travel expenses, extra expenses for unnecessary procedures, and funding cuts to Planned Parenthood, etc., included in every single bill passed by Republican legislatures and signed into law by Republican governors in recent years. Their whole purpose is to punish women who have made a choice they disagree with. In addition, various conservative preachers have already suggested the death penalty for women who "murder" their "unborn baby" and Republicans have been working around the clock to get the fetus recognized in law as a "person" so they can not only punish the woman who "murders" this "person," but also so they can "investigate" miscarriages to see what harm, such as smoking a cigarette or having a cocktail while pregnant may have done to the fetus, so she can be charged with manslaughter.
The point is, everything the Republicans have done up until now had resulted in some kind of punishment for women. So yes: if they succeed in outlawing abortion, and although Trump wouldn't do that, Cruz and Kasich both would, the punishments will only get more severe!
Squaredeal
(398 posts)...women getting them should be imprisoned for murder, just like the doctors/back alley abortionists whom they hire to perform the service. They won't address this logical conclusion because of public backlash and outrage that would follow and the political defeat of their own party, preferring instead just to put up as many publicly tolerable financial and bureaucratic roadblocks as possible to try to stop them.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:35 AM - Edit history (1)
in marching through the issues that require hard decisions. He gives us bipartisan solutions the he alone can produce. But, he wants to toss this one to the States, which would generate a 50 variations of abortion laws that each State would likely change each time a State flipped political party control. The States can then enter into endless lawsuits in which a resident of one State goes into a more lenient State for an abortion. In the next book on Profiles of Courage, Gov. Kasich will NOT be in it. Who does he think he is kidding? He would fill the prisons with women who aborted or assisted. Journalists should make him face this question each time he speaks in a forum. In his mind, he knows what he would do. Make him tell us.
houston16revival
(953 posts)other people's personal privacy boundaries?
Who are always meddling in morality to try to control
others' behavior?
Mind your own business, Kasich!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Kind of a soften the blow ,ease around the blow out. As usual Christie is either clueless or he's somehow on board with Trump's method of forcing the issue out into the open. Kasich cannot and will not speak to the issues because of his party's rules . Even as Trump back peddles on his statement-spoken or misspoken, the issue remains news. That was Trump's strategy- to bring the issue out front speaking directly to it . The controversy surrounding his words remain news, and that is exactly why he said what he said the way it was said.
Trump now says he shouldn't have gone after Hidy Cruz ! He say's if he had it to do over he wouldn't do that.
That's a lie , as is the seeming helping of humble pie he appears to have consumed expressed through his manor of speak as he back peddles.
The GOP wants what went down put to sleep and in one hell of a hurry. One of
Trump's statements you really have to watch is the one where he say's ,back there I said this that or the other, as opinion would have it at the time it was campaign bull sh-t ,and as it turns out I was right. Right after main stream news catch's up to it somewhere down the line.
Point being ,Trump is perfectly aware a mistake is not necessarily a mistake and further a seeming mistake can turn out to be a tremendous asset in the long run.
As to Christie, he wish's he is the mistake that turns out to be a tremendous asset. He is survived by his fantasies these days.
Squaredeal
(398 posts)...spent more time protecting women's rights and not trying to oppress them, they wouldn't be so reviled as being sexist.
mountain grammy
(26,640 posts)Women's healthcare decisions but no punishment for breaking the law..what a lie..
Paladin
(28,269 posts)No surprise, there.
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... and I believe the phrase was, "Those people." ...
... he also has a phrase to explain to his old, poor and infirm constituents cuts in the SNAP program ...
... "He asked audience members to raise their hands if they were far from receiving Social Security, asked them if they knew yet what their initial benefit would be and then asked them if they would be bothered if it were a little lower for the good of the country.
One person said it would be a problem.
"Well, you'd get over it, and you're going to have to get over it," Kasich joked ...
[link:http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/john-kasich-get-over-it-social-security/index.html|
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)houston16revival
(953 posts)is difficult to regulate
Why are the Republicans always invading our bedrooms and bodies,
and why are they in my doctor's office?
Boldine
(86 posts)http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/john-kasichs-quiet-campaign-to-cut-abortion-access/
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Only the poor will suffer. Making abortion illegal only helps backstreet abortionists who don't care about the welfare of their patients.
I'm so glad I don't live in America.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Zika is coming to the southern US this summer, the heart of antiabortion country. So, many women will be pregnant with microencephalic fetuses. What should be done? If the woman has an abortion, she should be put in jail? If she delivers a microencephalic baby and leaves it in one of those allowed safe places, who will care for it? Are they willing to raise taxes to pay for the care of these babies?
freebrew
(1,917 posts)abortion in case of Down's?
There are many levels of Down's. Some can acclimate fairly well, others are such a burden on a healthy family.
Not meaning to be heartless, just thinking of the families that will be devastated by these types of decisions.
And NO they will not pay for anything.
Pro-life belief seems to end when the feet hit the ground.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And it was reasonably worked through in 1973 so where have you been for the last 43 years.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)they should advocate that it be prosecuted as such, which means charging both the woman and anyone who aids her in procuring the abortion with murder. But, outside of a few extremists, very few "pro-life" people actually advocate for that, because they know its not murder, but for ideological/religious and/or misogynistic reasons.