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still_one

(92,320 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:20 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders says ‘of course’ Hillary Clinton is qualified to be president,

Source: Washington Post

NEW YORK — Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders struck a more conciliatory tone Friday toward his rival Hillary Clinton, saying that “of course” she is qualified to be president and adding that he is eager to return to a discussion of “real issues.”

Sanders’s assessment came two days after a speech in which he ticked off ways in which he said Clinton is unqualified for the presidency, including her acceptance of special interest money, her support of free trade deals and her support of the Iraq war.

During an appearance at a “town hall” meeting broadcast live on NBC’s “Today” show on Friday, Sanders said, as he has repeatedly since Wednesday, that his comments were prompted by attacks from Clinton’s campaign following his win this week in the Wisconsin primary.

[Is an increasingly nasty Clinton-Sanders race doing lasting damage to Democrats?]

The senator from Vermont was asked by co-anchor Savannah Guthrie if he had overreacted to comments by Clinton earlier Wednesday suggesting he was unprepared for the presidency.

“Did you overreact because you thought she said something more than she did?” Guthrie asked.

“Here’s the truth,” Sanders said. “I’ve known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. I respect Hillary Clinton. We were colleagues in the Senate, and on her worst day, she would be an infinitely better president than either of the Republican candidates.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-says-of-course-hillary-clinton-is-qualified-to-be-president-seeks-return-to-real-issues/

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Bernie Sanders says ‘of course’ Hillary Clinton is qualified to be president, (Original Post) still_one Apr 2016 OP
Just not qualified to speak at the Vatican... since that takes a higher level of morality... nt revbones Apr 2016 #1
Of course, His Pureness will advocate for the dispossessed like he did back in the day... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #6
Oh noes! He didn't tithe - you better let the Pope know that a non-Catholic didn't tithe. rofl revbones Apr 2016 #9
And he's certainly not EL THIEFO, which is rare and refreshing in these times appalachiablue Apr 2016 #13
Is the Catholic Church involving itself in America's elections? still_one Apr 2016 #10
Oh did it? I didn't see that. revbones Apr 2016 #11
in the middle of an election primary, and not inviting any of the other candidates. ok still_one Apr 2016 #18
Perhaps it just says something about their morality... nt revbones Apr 2016 #19
Really still_one Apr 2016 #33
You're not up on things. That was debunked revbones Apr 2016 #34
To support your point, you should really supply a link, such as this still_one Apr 2016 #35
I did provide a link. You should recheck. nt revbones Apr 2016 #36
got it. I didn't realize that Bloomberg changed there original blurb. Thanks still_one Apr 2016 #37
Thank you for being honorable about the mistake. nt revbones Apr 2016 #38
I am not going to dispute facts. You were right. In fact that headline is intentionally still_one Apr 2016 #41
Wake up bro, the Catholic Church has been involved in world politics for a long time. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #29
Are we going to add anti-catholic bigotry to the pile now? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #32
If you are accusing me of being anti-Catholic, you are full it. The question I poised was NOT still_one Apr 2016 #44
Except that's not the case Scootaloo Apr 2016 #46
Nevertheless, with all the headlines saying Bernie was invited to meet with the pope, still_one Apr 2016 #47
insinuating that the Vatican is interfering with US politics is a standard anti-papist trope Scootaloo Apr 2016 #48
except the MSM gave that impression with their headlines, and double talk with in the still_one Apr 2016 #49
Wait - I thought he ASKED to be invited? JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #17
papal threads are certainly missing the usual criticism for the Vatican lately... LanternWaste Apr 2016 #20
Higher level? moosewhisperer Apr 2016 #25
While I have refrained from mentioning such things revbones Apr 2016 #28
Comical? moosewhisperer Apr 2016 #39
Yes. revbones Apr 2016 #40
Oh, backtracking are we? Who knew? Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #2
Much too little. Much too late. eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #3
The next day is "too late" for you? FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #12
Hmm, in my week, BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #21
Great, hope they can both be a bit nicer and focus their anger on Trump Democat Apr 2016 #4
Hillary made him look silly yesterday... timlot Apr 2016 #5
VERY silly, indeed. As all of the attempts at back tracking attest. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #14
+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #23
well, just as a thirdway pres, not a progressive one stupidicus Apr 2016 #7
Good. Now let's get back to real issues, not media foaming at the mouth. He even had to sidestep FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #8
my respect for hrc is plummeting dembotoz Apr 2016 #15
Anyone who voted to support a made-up war lancer78 Apr 2016 #16
Personally, I wouldn't want anyone near the button BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #22
Then she could have voted against it. lancer78 Apr 2016 #42
In other words, BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #43
Non-Democrat continues to fumble his 'message.' nt onehandle Apr 2016 #24
Trying to take the high road after flooding the low road with mud liberal N proud Apr 2016 #26
Does This Debunk Claim That He Said She ... TomCADem Apr 2016 #27
good for him, he's doing the right thing now. time to let it go nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #30
It's "Breaking news" that she's qualified? arcane1 Apr 2016 #31
Wallowing in mud of his own making, trying hard to get himself out of it. beastie boy Apr 2016 #45
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Of course, His Pureness will advocate for the dispossessed like he did back in the day...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

He's going to advocate for the poor and disadvantaged, just like he did back in Vermont in the 1980's and 90's. Riiiight...

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/el-cheapo/Content?oid=2433883

SEVEN DAYS
Vermont's Independent Voice


By Peter Freyne

October 16, 1996

EL CHEAPO!


Sanders is making more money than at any time in his life but gives next to nothing to charity organizations. This leads Peter Freyne to reminisce about Bernie's early mayoral charity-trashing speech to the United Way.

He's the only independent in Congress, the self-proclaimed champion of "poor people, working people and the elderly," and he wears his politics on his sleeve.
...

But some things never change: Bernie Sanders is still a cheapskate.
...

Revolutionary zeal was all the rage, and no one who was there will ever forget that memorable day at the Ramada Inn in 1981 when Mayor Sanders was invited to address the kickoff of the United Way campaign.

Ol' Bernardo couldn't conceal the contempt he held for all those well-dressed do-gooders. His infamous, in-your-face "I Don't Believe In Charity" speech knocked 'em on their tushes.

More at link:

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/el-cheapo/Content?oid=2433883

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
9. Oh noes! He didn't tithe - you better let the Pope know that a non-Catholic didn't tithe. rofl
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

That's what you have? That he didn't donate a sufficient enough percentage to charity in some years?

appalachiablue

(41,165 posts)
13. And he's certainly not EL THIEFO, which is rare and refreshing in these times
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

of mass inequality and corruption around the globe.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
11. Oh did it? I didn't see that.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

I just saw the Pope invite the only honest and moral candidate here, who talks the talk and walks the walk politically, to speak at the Vatican.

If you have a problem with that, perhaps the problem really lies in the morality of your supported candidate...

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
34. You're not up on things. That was debunked
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation

Sanders “made the first move two or three days ago,” Archer said. She did not know whom he or his representatives contacted about what she called “this little workshop.” Archer added: “His use of it is clearly a pretext. There are just 20 academics and there will be nothing of policy relevance.”
However Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Academy, speaking on the phone from New York, said he extended the invitation to Sanders, though he declined to say who initiated the contacts.
“We are interested in having him because we have two presidents coming from Latin America, I thought it would be good to have an authoritative voice from North America,” Sanchez Sorondo said. Asked when he when the invitation was extended, he said, “Quite some time ago.”


The invitation image was posted as well, and the date disproves Archer's complaint.

still_one

(92,320 posts)
41. I am not going to dispute facts. You were right. In fact that headline is intentionally
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:55 PM - Edit history (1)

misleading that he in fact received the invitation.

still_one

(92,320 posts)
44. If you are accusing me of being anti-Catholic, you are full it. The question I poised was NOT
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

unreasonable. Days before the New York primary, the pope invites Sanders for an interview.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
46. Except that's not the case
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders received an invitation from Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo to be part of a panel on poverty and inequality for the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences.

If you didn't know, Bishop Sorondo isn't the Pope, and being part of a panel of two dozen is not an interview.

still_one

(92,320 posts)
47. Nevertheless, with all the headlines saying Bernie was invited to meet with the pope,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

my question was still not out of line, and definitely not anti-Catholic.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35999269

That the MSM has been talking out of both sides of its mouth, is just another failure of the media:

"Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has accepted an invitation from the Pope to the Vatican.

Mr Sanders, who is Jewish, accepted an invitation to Rome for a conference at the end of next week.

The Vatican visit is four days before the primary contest in New York, a competitive battle between him and front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Mr Sanders said he was not sure whether he would meet the Pope but he was a big fan of the pontiff."



 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
48. insinuating that the Vatican is interfering with US politics is a standard anti-papist trope
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:29 PM
Apr 2016

And this last month has shown me that I really ought to expect the worst of people with ^H next to their names.

still_one

(92,320 posts)
49. except the MSM gave that impression with their headlines, and double talk with in the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

articles they produced. While the media is reporting it in such a flim flam way, does not surprise me, it also is intentionally misrepresenting the facts, and that is a big problem

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35999269

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. papal threads are certainly missing the usual criticism for the Vatican lately...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

These papal threads referencing Sanders are certainly missing the usual criticism for the Vatican, most often, he is criticized for regressive social platforms, sitting on "mountains of gold, real estate & huge amounts of $$...", "Ah, I foresee another PR victory for Pope Photo Op," "but...but he hugged an ugly person! And he thinks all dogs go to heaven!"

So as John Lewis and Planned Parenthood and Rachel Maddow are sacrificed on the pyre of progressive purity (I decided to use the hyperbole too), the Pope is transformed... reborn even, into a newer, better Pope than he was before he invited Sanders.

moosewhisperer

(114 posts)
25. Higher level?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

There's very little about the Catholic Church that demonstrates a "higher level of morality". Maybe there will be a breakout session about how to further cover up child rape.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
28. While I have refrained from mentioning such things
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

I will take a brief pause and say that given the child rapist that Hillary bragged about getting off as a lawyer and rape allegations against Clinton, that your mentioning rape is a little comical.

moosewhisperer

(114 posts)
39. Comical?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe you find the subject of rape comical. I do not. My comment was specifically in response to the notion that the Catholic Church is somehow even close to the moral authority they claim to be. The Clintons are an entirely separate issue.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
40. Yes.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

While I don't find rape comical, I do find the attempt to use it to discredit or demean Bernie's participation in the conference by using it to be comical.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,018 posts)
12. The next day is "too late" for you?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

Oh, right, this is primary season, when usually nice people get quite hardened in their outlook.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
21. Hmm, in my week,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

Thursday follows Wednesday. Bernie made his outrageous comment about Hillary on Wed. Instead of apologizing or making nice, he doubled down on that comment yesterday, i.e., Thursday. Then Jane played the Bernie victim card on Rachel Maddow last night.

It is only today that Bernie says that, of course, Clinton is qualified. So, no, today (Friday) is NOT "the next day."

At least not in any of my calendars (I have a US system calendar and a European calendar; the weeks have different starts but the same days).

I'm afraid that my once-benign outlook towards Bernie became hardened last weekend after the shenanigans in NV, following a slew (spew?) of anti-Hillary remarks last week by some Sanders surrogates who were never chastised for making them. I used to cut a lot of slack. But when goodwill is once lost, ....

Democat

(11,617 posts)
4. Great, hope they can both be a bit nicer and focus their anger on Trump
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

And hope DUers can do the same.

The goal is to beat Trump, not to destroy either Democrat before we even know who will be our candidate.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
5. Hillary made him look silly yesterday...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

When she said she would choose him over any of the Republicans after he got on stage at a rally of thousands and said she was unqualified.

She looked like the adult that knows that you can't divide the party with attacks like that. All in all its good both have walked that back now because its kind of hard to say you support someone you claimed was unqualified to hold the position.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,018 posts)
8. Good. Now let's get back to real issues, not media foaming at the mouth. He even had to sidestep
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

the co-anchor's loaded question with his oft repeated commending of Hillary and their long association.

"Did you overreact because you thought she said something more than she did?” Sheesh.

dembotoz

(16,819 posts)
15. my respect for hrc is plummeting
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

she has moved from well an ok 2nd or 3rd choice to
good lord i can't stand her

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
16. Anyone who voted to support a made-up war
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

IS unqualified to be President. I wouldn't want anyone like that anywhere near the button.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
22. Personally, I wouldn't want anyone near the button
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

who goes full-scale ballistic at his opponent without confirming the facts.

Hillary's IWR vote was nearly 14 years ago. Even if she had voted against it, Bush had all the votes he needed, including more Dems than not. And - even if he hadn't had them, he would have done it on his own. But yes, let's blame Hillary ALONE for the debacle because of CDS.

Bernie's full-blown tantrum occurred yesterday. Red flag indeed.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
42. Then she could have voted against it.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

If she really supported the war, she could of told her hawkish constituents that "GWB already had the votes, he didn't need mine and I would have wanted to wait for more evidence." Something like that would have made her look good instead of a knee-jerk reactionary.

I just think she has poor judgement. From staying with a known womanizer, to her Iraq war vote, to the current e-mail scandal.

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