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oioioi

(1,127 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:19 AM Apr 2016

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert abused 4 boys, prosecutors say

Source: CNN

(CNN)Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert sexually abused at least four boys when he worked as a wrestling coach at a high school in Illinois decades ago, federal prosecutors said.

In documents released Friday, prosecutors detailed stunning allegations against Hastert, the longest-running Republican speaker of the House.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/09/politics/dennis-hastert-sexual-abuse-allegations/

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Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert abused 4 boys, prosecutors say (Original Post) oioioi Apr 2016 OP
Poor Hastert... chervilant Apr 2016 #1
And there's NO way Tom Delay didn't know about these "rumors" myrna minx Apr 2016 #2
in Britain it's called "Tory Sleaze" MisterP Apr 2016 #14
Two possible reasons DeLay didn't speak up Reter Apr 2016 #19
Bye Bye Speaker Kinko the Clown! Joe Bacon Apr 2016 #3
I guess doing it wilt the stilt Apr 2016 #4
Republicans got to hold power while it was hidden. Who cares about now? Whatever! eom Festivito Apr 2016 #5
These are the kinds of shits America has let steer the country. Gregorian Apr 2016 #6
And Hastert led the impeachment against Bill Clinton back in the day. Botany Apr 2016 #7
This should be pinned to the top page at DU. For gods' sake, those who don't remember... Hekate Apr 2016 #23
A long time ago as a little kid in a middle class neighborhood our next door .... Botany Apr 2016 #25
I know. It was a lifetime ago, wasn't it? nt Hekate Apr 2016 #33
Ike, Chuck Percy, Mark Hatfield, Teddy R, Lincoln, and Margaret Chase Smith were all .... Botany Apr 2016 #35
George Romney, another good one. .... Hekate Apr 2016 #37
Jail time is too good for this predator Fritz Walter Apr 2016 #8
"at least four boys". . . . like the pedophiles of the rcc, I am sure there are more. niyad Apr 2016 #9
that's how it should have been titled Demonaut Apr 2016 #29
I wonder if he was a border jumper? Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #10
Culture of corruption IronLionZion Apr 2016 #11
Has Fox "News" called him a Democrat yet? n/t tabasco Apr 2016 #12
Must be a liberal! Helen Borg Apr 2016 #13
LIfe in Prison! Can you IMAGINE what RePigLickins would say IF HE WAS A DEM??? eom vkkv Apr 2016 #15
I remember him slamming Clinton during the impeachment thing and had THIS ? hollowdweller Apr 2016 #16
why is it always repressed conservstive "christians"? restorefreedom Apr 2016 #17
Well, no. It's just as often men who feel disempowered by life. But it does not matter, does it? Hekate Apr 2016 #24
i suppose it is an equal opportunity destroyer restorefreedom Apr 2016 #27
Lock him up. Throw away the key. Make sure he is in the general population. Akicita Apr 2016 #18
Hasturd's only chance is to convert to Islam, escape to Europe, and claim refugee status. Akicita Apr 2016 #20
Four that we know of. He is not being punished for the abuse, but for paying some of his victims. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #21
I hope this sick fucker rots in prison. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #22
I don't visit Free Republic, but I'm better some other have... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #26
He had a lounge chair facing the boys shower area: Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #28
On local chicago news now they said 5 . At least one was 14 , but I got the impression Person 2713 Apr 2016 #30
I'm betting it was more like 40 Doctor_J Apr 2016 #31
>400 _he is pretty old . Had decades as an important person to molest many young admirers Person 2713 Apr 2016 #34
And never did it again? Bs. Since when do pedophiles stop? He either didn't do it, jtuck004 Apr 2016 #32
Have the Republicans started twittering about how he needs "our prayers, sympathy, and understanding Aristus Apr 2016 #36
Who knew this and kept quiet? SHRED Apr 2016 #38
Disgusting behavior! In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #39
A recurring pattern houston16revival Apr 2016 #40

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
1. Poor Hastert...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016
"He will stand before the court having deteriorated both physically and emotionally, undoubtedly in part due to public shaming and humiliation of an unprecedented degree."


Poor thing.

As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I can assure this piece of inhuman detritus that we survivors endure lifetimes of emotional distress and trauma. Still to this day, I have no frame of reference for recognizing a male who has ethics and integrity, and is NOT an abuser.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
2. And there's NO way Tom Delay didn't know about these "rumors"
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016

And profit from that knowledge. People knew.

Ps - isn't Hastert the one who tried to cover up Foley's crimes?

This is just sickening.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
19. Two possible reasons DeLay didn't speak up
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

Remember, he wanted his job, so DeLay would rat him out in a second.

1) He truly didn't know.

2) Hastert had ethics dirt on DeLay, which seems likely for sure.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
6. These are the kinds of shits America has let steer the country.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

It took perverts to pervert this system. This is the kind of stuff that's inside of them.

Corruption inside and out.

Botany

(70,552 posts)
7. And Hastert led the impeachment against Bill Clinton back in the day.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

The Daily Kos recently dug up a statement in which Hastert said that given Clinton's
"inability to abide by the law, the Constitution and my conscience have all led me to
the solemn conclusion that impeachment articles must be passed."

http://mic.com/articles/119738/the-nbsp-dennis-hastert-scandal-has-outed-the-hypocrisy-of-republican-leadership#.34TO9jJKD

I'm old enough to remember Hastert, Newt, Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston, and that drug addicted
pedophile Rush Limbaugh's joy in impeaching Bill Clinton over a blow job even though they all had
their personal "baggage."

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
23. This should be pinned to the top page at DU. For gods' sake, those who don't remember...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

...need to be slapped in the face with this. And those who weren't born yet, need to have this hammered home until they GET IT.

Bill Clinton is not perfect. Hillary Clinton is not perfect. NONE OF US ARE.

But what the Republicans do is LIE, TWIST, and DESTROY any Democrat who looks like they might change the system that so benefits the utterly corrupt GOP.

I hate them, and I never say that lightly.

Botany

(70,552 posts)
25. A long time ago as a little kid in a middle class neighborhood our next door ....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:02 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)

... neighbor was the county DA and his brother was Governor of PA. He was a good
guy who played with us kids and he worked for education, infrastructure, the environment,
civil rights, unions, and the good of the people. His name was Ray Shafer and he was
a republican too. He would have no home in the GOP today.


Hastert was going after Clinton and hurting our chances of getting bin Laden w/all his
baggage?

Botany

(70,552 posts)
35. Ike, Chuck Percy, Mark Hatfield, Teddy R, Lincoln, and Margaret Chase Smith were all ....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

.... republicans. Now it is Cruz, Trump, Gohmert, Palin, Rick Synder, and so on and they
are not worthy of cleaning Ike's toliet.

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
37. George Romney, another good one. ....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:15 PM
Apr 2016

Gingrich et al basically destroyed their own party, created this monster. We need both parties to play it straight for the government to function, and from the moment Reagan sneered that the most feared words in the English language were "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you," we were introduced to a self fulfilling prophecy that led to the drowning of New Orleans. In a two party system, when one of the parties does not even believe in having a federal government, we are all screwed.

IronLionZion

(45,494 posts)
11. Culture of corruption
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

this is why those assholes are so obsessed with sexual misconduct in bathrooms or consensual adult homosexual relationships. They can't stop thinking about it. Conservative republicans are often deeply repressed and hiding something.


 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
16. I remember him slamming Clinton during the impeachment thing and had THIS ?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016


Judge not lest you also be judged.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. why is it always repressed conservstive "christians"?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

that turn into abusive predators?

my guess is something about needing power.....sick bastard

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
24. Well, no. It's just as often men who feel disempowered by life. But it does not matter, does it?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

It's a crime of power, predation, opportunity (and they make their opportunities), and compulsion. It transcends country, culture, and religion, or lack of religion. Often, but not always, they themselves were once abused. The harm lasts a lifetime.

Those of us who have survived this have sought for answers that are seldom there, but that much we know.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
27. i suppose it is an equal opportunity destroyer
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

i do wonder if conservstive religious upbringing makes it more difficult for those needing help to reach out and get it before they start acting on their impulses.

healing energy to you

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
20. Hasturd's only chance is to convert to Islam, escape to Europe, and claim refugee status.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:47 PM
Apr 2016

Then he has a decent chance that his crimes will be ignored or downplayed. The Cologne police for one, I am sure, will say nothing happened. Swedish officials would probably look the other way as well.

What a scumbag.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
21. Four that we know of. He is not being punished for the abuse, but for paying some of his victims.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
26. I don't visit Free Republic, but I'm better some other have...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

Oh, look.... another sex offender in the ranks...

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
30. On local chicago news now they said 5 . At least one was 14 , but I got the impression
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

Hassert was in charge of freshman . He also brought a lazy boy to in front of the boys shower and would watch as they bath.
Liked to massage injuries then grab their junk . Took part in camp overs too.
Trying to avoid prison time now altogether although he has avoided pedo charges for decades wtf

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
34. >400 _he is pretty old . Had decades as an important person to molest many young admirers
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe he worked his age preference up to congress pages, like Foley

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
32. And never did it again? Bs. Since when do pedophiles stop? He either didn't do it,
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

or there is more, almost certainly.

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
36. Have the Republicans started twittering about how he needs "our prayers, sympathy, and understanding
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:08 PM
Apr 2016

in this difficult time?"

houston16revival

(953 posts)
40. A recurring pattern
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

These abusive dominant types are in many locales

Penn State sure had one, as well as some
Catholic priest perps

One wonders how many are never caught, or if there
are varying degrees of abusers, some go over the edge,
some tie up their spouses with verbal or physical abuse

Very sad

Are they born this way, or poorly socialized, or abused themselves?

How do they come to view themselves as these superior entitled beings?

I'm thinking of Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" - the super human being
above the law and contributing his superior ideas to society and
therefore entitled to commit crimes. It really is an arrogance beyond
salvation.

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